Digby: Yeah, these people voted for Trump because of his trade policies

[mcar]

From a CNN report on a follow-up support group of Trump supporters. Trump's nominees are 'top of the class,' Obama told illegal immigrants they can vote - just Google it! Sorry, but these people are not concerned about the economy or trade, they are just stupid.

http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2016/12/yeah-these-people-voted-for-trump.html

“How do you feel about the ‘white nationalist movement,’ the alt-right, some Neo-Nazi salutes that we’ve seen? What are we to make of what feels like a groundswell of that with the Steve Bannon-Breitbart connection,” Camerota asked the group after one participant claimed that the people “that Trump has appointed or nominated have all been top of the class, number one in their field, extremely talented, great leaders on their own.”...

Johnson continued that many anti-Trump voters had little room to complain if they failed to vote in the election. “Voting is a privilege in this country,” Johnson said, before adding, “and you need to be legal, not like California where three million illegals voted.”...

Johnson then decided to source her false report directly to President Obama. “I think there was a good amount because the president told people that they could vote,” Johnson claimed. “They said, ‘The president said I could vote. I’m here illegally.’”...

“Did you hear President Obama said that illegal people could vote?” asked Camerota, to which nearly all the participants nodded their heads and replied, “Yes.”

[mcar]

1. Shameless kick

[UtahLib]

2. K&R, very enlightening.

[mcar]

3. Sad, but enlightening

Thanks UtahLib!

[Kolesar]

4. Bit of sarcasm in that title

I did not get it at first.
sharing

[mcar]

5. More than a bit

Thanks for sharing.

[SunSeeker]

6. They are all about hate. nt

[mcar]

8. They are

I can't believe some on this board are arguing about it.

[greatauntoftriplets]

7. K&R!!!

[Tatiana]

9. And this is why Republicans fight so hard to keep higher education for the wealthy.

If only their ignorance and stupidity didn't have such disastrous consequences for not only this country, but the world.

[TuslaUltra]

10. knr! free trade isn't free!

it costs the nation jobs and good Presidents (see 2016)

[bettyellen]

11. I read somewhere that 2/3 thought our govt had gotten too feminine!?!?

What the fuck?

[Takket]

12. the mental health crisis in this country is so much worse than we even know

[Cha]

13. Thank you for this, mcar!

[pnwmom]

14. K & R

[DemonGoddess]

15. K&R!

[Garrett78]

16. While also voting for huge proponents of the TPP. Makes sense, right?

So, if not trade, it must be the anti-establishment mentality, right? Oh, what's that you say, the rate of incumbent re-election was even higher than normal for both the Senate and the House?

Wait, Clinton won among those most hurt by the recession?

Gee, that "working class whites/Clinton didn't have an economic message" narrative sure does seem to collapse under the weight of critical thought.

I can't imagine Trump supporters sitting around having nuanced discussions about anything as complicated as trade.

Not to mention how insulting it is to suggest working class POC must not care about economic issues by suggesting working class whites supported Trump due to Clinton's lack of economic messaging.

Lastly, Trump's jobs message was both vague and utterly unrealistic. As for "populism," we're talking about someone who is predictably the most Wall Street friendly President-elect ever.

There's no excuse for supporting Trump.

[mcar]

17. Well said!

[Garrett78]

28. I just edited that post to make a couple more points.

[JHan]

26. Yep. Saw some polling showing most Americans don't even know or care what's in the TPP...

Trump says it in a rally - people cheer, because he said something.

[Garrett78]

29. On the radio this morning, I heard a clip from Trump's announcement of his Sec. of Defense.

They cheered the second they heard Trump start to yell that he would appoint "Mad Dog Mattis" as Sec. of Defense. Even if they hadn't been cheering prior to him getting the words out, it wouldn't be a stretch to suggest most in the audience don't know a thing about "Mad Dog."

It really doesn't matter what Trump says or does. As he said, he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue in New York and not lose a supporter. Because what Trump stands for is white nationalism, anti-feminism, machismo, heterosexism, etc. And that's all that matters.

[Gothmog]

18. K&R

[still_one]

19. Thanks mcar for the reality. Also, the sad fact is that every Democrat running in a swing state for

Senator lost against the establishment republican incumbent kind of confirms your point

Wisconsin probably the best example of that with who they elected, and the resulting "right to work laws"

[mcar]

21. And Feingold lost by a bigger margin than HRC

[treestar]

20. It's strange how they make up their own facts

and repeat them until they actually believe them. I wonder if they could pass a lie detector test when they claim they heard President Obama say illegals could vote.

And why do they think there are so many illegals that they could tip the popular vote?

[mcar]

22. Because Trump and his CT propagandists told them

illegals are pouring over the border.

[treestar]

23. I always know they are xenophobes when they use terms like that

flooding
pouring
overrun

that's the impression they want to have, so they can feel like victims. If the real proportion of the population were considered, the danger to "American culture" they want to perceive wouldn't be justified.

[mcar]

24. My guess is that these people never met an undocumented worker in their lives

[treestar]

25. Probably true. And when they do they are like

the person they know is a great guy, why can't he be legal? It's like they think the immigration law is that whoever they like can just register to be legal!

[Faux pas]

27. Kickin' with disgust

[Hortensis]

30. At least this election has outed fake news as a major factor.

Of course those who love it will search for and soak it in, but not everyone will be so glad to be fooled, and in a lot of social groups it's going to be less respectable to repeat it to others. Schools are going to have to start teaching kids how to vet sources earlier and better. And media platforms will become known for their willingness or resistance to spreading misinformation.

And more journalism students are going to be required to take at least one course in statistics to they can understand what they're reading or hearing a bit better.

[sheshe2]

31. K&R

Sorry, I just saw this mcar!

[brer cat]

32. You are absolutely right, mcar.

K&R