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Mosby

(17,257 posts)
Thu Dec 1, 2016, 07:27 PM Dec 2016

Hillary Clinton won Latino vote but fell below 2012 support for Obama

Hillary Clinton won 66% of Latino voters on Election Day, according to updated National Election Pool exit poll data, a level of Democratic support similar to 2008, when 67% of Hispanics backed Barack Obama. However, Clinton’s share of the Latino vote was lower than in 2012, when 71% of Latinos voted to re-elect Obama.

While Clinton under performed among Latinos compared with 2012, Republican Donald Trump won 28% of the Latino vote, a similar share to 2012, when Mitt Romney won 27%, and to 2008, when John McCain won 31%, according to exit polls. (It is important to note that the national exit poll is a survey with an overall margin of error of plus or minus 3 percentage points for the national result.)

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/11/29/hillary-clinton-wins-latino-vote-but-falls-below-2012-support-for-obama/


This is part of the problem, fewer Latinos (by %) are voting:



Especially young people:




And overall the US has really low turnout:











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LisaM

(28,444 posts)
1. So why the low turnout? Suppression tactics? Fewer polling spots (I know this is a problem in AZ).
Thu Dec 1, 2016, 07:31 PM
Dec 2016

Just the fact that the growth is among millennials, and millennials had rather low turnout? Or a combination of all of these factors?

Such a small shift in voting patterns could have affected this election into a positive result.

 

RonniePudding

(889 posts)
3. A Hispanic on the ticket would have helped
Thu Dec 1, 2016, 09:03 PM
Dec 2016

In my view the party's ticket should include a woman and or Hispanic or other ethnic minority moving forward. If we're going to claim the mantle of being progressive on issues like immigration and equal pay the ticket should reflect that. I think Clinton erred in her VP pick with Kaine. Nice guy. Zero impact on the race.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
5. Arizona was a mess in the Democratic primary so it wouldn't surprise me at all
Thu Dec 1, 2016, 10:07 PM
Dec 2016

That numbers would be down.

 

otohara

(24,135 posts)
2. Who Can We Thank For Driving Down Minority Millennial Vote?
Thu Dec 1, 2016, 08:07 PM
Dec 2016

Last edited Thu Dec 1, 2016, 09:17 PM - Edit history (1)

Normally I don't think celebrities have much of an effect but with social media and the freedom to say hateful things in front of large crowds to new voters who are already mistrusting of the government had an effect this time around.

I heard more about these people than hero's of the civil rights movement like Dolores Huerta who were supporting Hillary.
But they're old and old is out ...

Killer Mike: “If I could find a picture of you from 51 years ago chained to a black woman, protesting [against] segregation, and I know that 51 years later you’re willing to fold your arms, hold your head and listen to two black girls yell and scream – rightfully so – as opposed to telling them to ‘shut up’ after you’ve read your own words … as opposed to someone who will tell you ‘later’, when it comes to your children dying in the streets, I know that the only person that I have the conscience to vote for is Bernard Sanders. I know that the only person my logical beautiful black mind will allow me to vote for is Senator Bernie Sanders.”

Later said no difference between Hillary/Trump refused to vote.

Azealia Banks "Hillary has been GROOMED for the presidency. She's another one of the establishments robots here to carry out an agenda" and "Hillary talks to black people as if we're children or pets. i can't stand herrrrrrr."

Cenk Uygur I’m getting an establishment, no change candidate.

Tila Tequila"Hilary Clinton is a clone. The real one got killed a long time ago.

Roserio Dawson "If she isn't a 'natural' politician (disingenuous much?) she's def a practiced/rehearsed one."

There were white celebrities who drove down millennial votes too. The usual suspects...

In the end - it's minorities who are now suffering the backlash - including Jewish folks for that we can thank David Sirota, Glenn Greenwald for their skills in hateful rhetoric. Muslims, African American's and Hispanics are getting yelled at in public...and kids in schools are getting targeted too.

My son works with kids at our public school system - a kid from Uganda was afraid to say where he was from - he whispered it to my son and looked around to see if anyone saw him.








StevieM

(10,534 posts)
6. The exit polls were off. Other post-election polling showed a much wider margin.
Thu Dec 1, 2016, 10:22 PM
Dec 2016

You can also see that the margin was bigger based on precinct by precinct data.

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
7. A lot was made of the fact that Tim Kaine spoke Spanish.
Thu Dec 1, 2016, 10:31 PM
Dec 2016

I wonder if it came across as a bit patronizing. Latinos are not as homogeneous as African Americans as a voting group. Cuban-Americans, Mexican-Americans, and Puerto Ricans all have unique needs and viewpoints. So I think it's a bit hard to lump all Latinos together. Cuban-Americans, for instance, know that as soon as they reach US soil, they have a secure pathway to citizenship. They don't face the same hatred and obstacles that Latino immigrants from Mexico or Central America have to deal with even though they are fleeing persecution and narco violence. So Trump's hateful language toward Mexicans likely didn't stop Cuban Americans in Florida, for instance, from voting for the Donald.

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