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BREAKING: Russia Also Tilted Key Congressional Races (Original Post) Iamaartist Dec 2016 OP
Not surprised. The Republican-Russian cabal wants to take down America Achilleaze Dec 2016 #1
I agree the stolen America .....by Don The Con and GOP...... Iamaartist Dec 2016 #11
Yeah... jaxind Dec 2016 #2
Let Don The Con and GOP should move to Russia,fits them better crooks and liers....... Iamaartist Dec 2016 #12
I was very suspect that bec Dec 2016 #3
He was my first thought, too. nt babylonsister Dec 2016 #6
How many more races did it effect.....god only knows...senate races maybe to??? Iamaartist Dec 2016 #13
I feel like there is no way that we should let them get away with this. drm604 Dec 2016 #4
The news media collaborated. yardwork Dec 2016 #5
Yes. From the original article (New York Times): janx Dec 2016 #29
holy fuck... this is beyond criminal and beyond treason. Freaking insane. Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #7
Proof that republicans are bad for America. Lucky Luciano Dec 2016 #8
Something's rotten...and it ain't in Denmark. FailureToCommunicate Dec 2016 #9
i gotta wonder, barbtries Dec 2016 #10
Is Crooks and Liars a credible source? I've always wondered.. I hope so!!!! secondwind Dec 2016 #14
Well its on the DU Home page....but here is another link...... Iamaartist Dec 2016 #15
I wonder if they also swung key Senate races NewJeffCT Dec 2016 #16
I was thinking the same thing?????/ Iamaartist Dec 2016 #18
I was thinking the same thing, too meow2u3 Dec 2016 #22
I just hope NewJeffCT Dec 2016 #23
Here is the kernel. brer cat Dec 2016 #17
Your welcome...... its unreal....... Iamaartist Dec 2016 #20
Russia not only stole the White House but also stole Congress Gothmog Dec 2016 #19
welcome to the banana states of amerika. Javaman Dec 2016 #21
If we ever get our independence fro Russia, we have to write a new Constitution world wide wally Dec 2016 #24
I'm Not Casting Blame... SDJay Dec 2016 #25
It's obvious what the Dems are doing. duffyduff Dec 2016 #26
If there is a 2018...just sayin'. eom Frustratedlady Dec 2016 #27
There will be. duffyduff Dec 2016 #28
You May Be Right SDJay Dec 2016 #30
Big reason why Ryan and McConnell triron Dec 2016 #31

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
1. Not surprised. The Republican-Russian cabal wants to take down America
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 06:59 AM
Dec 2016

Screw that treasonous shit. Republicans should just pack up and move to Mother Russia since they have all Assumed the Position for the freaking Evil Empire.

jaxind

(1,074 posts)
2. Yeah...
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 07:23 AM
Dec 2016

Yeah..rethugs are always saying to us "if you don't like this country or if you don't like the outcome of this election, why don't you leave the country!" Well, if they don't like this country, and want to be pals with Russia, why don't they just move to Russia??!! This country would be so much better without them! In fact, I would love to see the even greater potential of this country without them here!!

Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
12. Let Don The Con and GOP should move to Russia,fits them better crooks and liers.......
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 09:06 AM
Dec 2016

To enrich themselves off America,,,,unreal

 

bec

(107 posts)
3. I was very suspect that
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 07:25 AM
Dec 2016

Russ Feingold lost his race to Johnson and said they might as well do a recount of that race while they are recounting the presidential ballots in Wisconsin.

drm604

(16,230 posts)
4. I feel like there is no way that we should let them get away with this.
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 07:40 AM
Dec 2016

But I have no idea what could be done. If we rerun the elections (something for which there is no legal basis that I can see) the damaging info is still out there so the result might not even change.

I am so angry about this!

yardwork

(61,588 posts)
5. The news media collaborated.
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 07:41 AM
Dec 2016

From the article:

I can hear the arguments now, that Wikileaks was merely the messenger and little else, to which I call bullsh*t. Without the fruit of the poisoned tree, Wikileaks wasn't a player. Assange reveled in the attention, with little care as to what his partnership with Russian hackers might do to American politics.

And as we know now, it's done grave harm. Whether you view that harm as simply destabilizing our political process or electing a failed reality show host as President, it has done deep, lasting harm to our democracy and to our standing around the world.

Only one country benefits from that, and it isn't us.

Now. Either our ruling party -- aka Republicans -- are going to behave like Americans and admit that they enjoy the benefit of foreign interference in our elections, or they're not. If they don't, then they are intentionally aiding and abetting foreign aggression against American democracy.

janx

(24,128 posts)
29. Yes. From the original article (New York Times):
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 12:16 PM
Dec 2016

“The N.R.C.C.’s use of documents stolen by the Russians plays right into the hands of one of the United States’ most dangerous adversaries,” Mr. Luján’s Aug. 29 letter said. “Put simply, if this action continues, the N.R.C.C. will be complicit in aiding the Russian government in its effort to influence American elections.”

barbtries

(28,787 posts)
10. i gotta wonder,
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 08:41 AM
Dec 2016

being here in NC, if mcrory just kept waiting for his crooked ship to come in.
i know i was blindsided by the results. Roy Cooper's election one tiny bright spot.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
16. I wonder if they also swung key Senate races
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 09:20 AM
Dec 2016

Like Toomey in PA, Blount in Missouri, Feingold in WI, etc.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
23. I just hope
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 10:13 AM
Dec 2016

that out of this election, we get a national standard for voting and a firm requirement that all presidential candidates must release their tax returns before their party's convention, as well as financial statements and put their businesses in a blind trust or divest from them. Right now, it's just a suggestion that every candidate has followed until Trump.

I'm also paranoid enough at times to think it would not have been that hard for some persons working on behalf of Russia to go around to a lot of these rural voting precincts and slip a few thousand dollars to the people there to enter in some extra votes for Trump.

brer cat

(24,544 posts)
17. Here is the kernel.
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 09:24 AM
Dec 2016
The document dump’s effectiveness was due in part to a de facto alliance that formed between the Russian hackers and political bloggers and newspapers across the United States. The hackers, working under the made-up name of Guccifer 2.0, used social media tools to invite individual reporters to request specific caches of documents, handing them out the way political operatives distribute scoops. It was an arrangement that proved irresistible to many news outlets — and amplified the consequences of the cyberattack.


This is chilling. Thanks for posting, Iamaartist.

Javaman

(62,510 posts)
21. welcome to the banana states of amerika.
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 09:36 AM
Dec 2016

this is what it feels like when we fuck with other nations elections.

it sucks doesn't it.

world wide wally

(21,739 posts)
24. If we ever get our independence fro Russia, we have to write a new Constitution
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 10:16 AM
Dec 2016

That bans Republicans and Nazis

SDJay

(1,089 posts)
25. I'm Not Casting Blame...
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 11:25 AM
Dec 2016

But if the public is starting to see all of this information, why isn't President Obama tearing the walls of the White House down figuring out what happened and exposing it? Is he already doing that behind the scenes? Is there a bombshell that's about to be pushed out there soon? Is this overblown and there really isn't much to worry about? It's confusing that he's been so silent on this. If he really cares about his legacy, I'd assume he wouldn't want the end of it to be that the Russians took over our democracy.

The only theory I can pull out of thin air - and it's probably rubbish - is that he's working behind the scenes to try to get some repukes on board with what needs to be done. If one of his final acts is to - at least based on public perception - try to invalidate the election of the scumbag who succeeds him his legacy would be tarnished badly.

It's quite confusing to me in that respect.

 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
26. It's obvious what the Dems are doing.
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 11:47 AM
Dec 2016

They figure just sit back and let the shit hit the fan.

That way they will be well-position to make gains in the House and Senate in 2018.

That is the only explanation I have as to why they aren't doing much.

It's all strategy.

 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
28. There will be.
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 12:02 PM
Dec 2016

It's just that the rope-a-dope strategy may not work here without extreme damage done to the country by Trump, et al.

SDJay

(1,089 posts)
30. You May Be Right
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 02:07 PM
Dec 2016

But even a cursory review of history reveals that fascists don't easily give up power once they grab it. I'm not sure Donny and the Russians would be so willing to just allow the process to play out if 2018 elections prove to be a wipeout for the good guys.

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