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No desire for the latest Romney excuse
Posted by Jonathan Capehart on December 24, 2012
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On the one hand, I am inclined to believe Tagg. His father ran one of the worst presidential campaigns in modern memory. Perhaps its a former Massachusetts governor thing. Mike Dukakis didnt do so hot as the Democratic presidential nominee in 1988. Also, Romney never offered a credible rationale for why he wanted to sit in the Oval Office other than he wanted to sit in the Oval Office.
On the other hand, I say horse hockey to Taggs assertion. His father spent the better part of six years running for the White House. And he did so in a manner that led to frequent charges of ideological promiscuity and a deep-seated mistrust among conservatives. Have we already forgotten how anybody but Mitt was the GOP mantra until there was nobody but Mitt left to take the nomination? Also, for a man who didnt want to be president, he sure had no problem burying his competition under an avalanche of negative ads or tacking to the right of them on whatever issue when it was necessary to get the job done.
The one thing I believe fully is that Ann was totally behind the effort to get her husband to run again. The Posts Philip Rucker reported that friends of the Romneys said that the would-be first lady was taking her husbands loss especially hard because she believed up until the end that ascending to the White House was their destiny. Romney had to learn a life lesson the hard way: The White House is earned.
Another lesson learned the hard way is that the American people dont like to feel like the person running for president is doing them a favor. That we should be so lucky to have someone like them in the White House, as Ann said of her husband during a September radio interview in Iowa. But it worked out in the end. The man who had no desire to run learned that the American people had no desire to have him in the White House.
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lunatica
(53,410 posts)Deep down, profoundly grateful.
leftyohiolib
(5,917 posts)lost this election"
Freddie
(10,087 posts)"And thank The Lord there are two words we will never have to say: President Rommey."
BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)marew
(1,588 posts)She already thought rather highly of herself! She didn't need to be in DC!
BigDemVoter
(4,690 posts)We'd be looking at his inauguration just next month, and can you imagine the vulgar spectacle THAT would have been?
sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)would have had The Mormon Tabernacle Choir on the Mall, singing the Hallelujah Chorus to a select body of imported saints, all while surrounded by a phalanx of black clad riot cops.
question everything
(51,930 posts)leftyohiolib
(5,917 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)... frequent charges of ideological promiscuity ...!!!!!
He wanted the Presidency so bad he could TASTE it. This latest "excuse" is horseshit, designed as a face-saver. Instead, like EVERYTHING the rMoneys do, it falls flat and sounds false. No one spends twenty million of their own money on something they don't want--and that was the LAST run, not this one!!!
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)somewhere (in an OP here on DU?) in the last 24 hours I read Mitt spent $45M of his own money. Whatever, $20M or $45M, he'll figure a way to write it off.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)I said it more like "Obama didn't really beat my dad, he just didn't want the job". It is the same excuse sports losers sometimes make.
MADem
(135,425 posts)bluescribbler
(2,483 posts)In his final 2 years as Governor of Massachusetts, he spent more time campaigning and raising money for GOPigs around the country than he did governing the state. All this was laying the groundwork and earning "political capital" for his eventual runs for the Presidency. As I posted on Facebook the day after the election, we dodged a huge bullet that day.
jmowreader
(53,029 posts)The part about him governing Massachusetts.
Romney holds the land speed record for overturned vetos - approximately 700 of them. The last year he was in office, he issued somewhere around 200 vetos and all of them were overturned - many unanimously. In effect, Mass had no governor; the General Court wrote anything it wanted, sent it to Romney, waited a couple days for it to come back, and enacted it over his veto.
A Romney presidency was designed to be a power-behind-the-throne deal, and would have required flipping the Senate - which the Republicans expected to do. Lobbyists would have written the bills...ATR on budgetary matters, NRA on gun laws, Heritage on defense...a compliant Congress would have passed them and Romney would have signed them. Mussolini described Fascism as corporate control of the government. It is unkind to call people fascists, but that's what we would have been up against.
geckosfeet
(9,644 posts)Why is this a hard lesson? Any school boy/girl in any school in America learns this from an early age. Even then success is far from certain and failure becomes and accepted mode of learning.
Unless of course you grow up as a member of privileged class where everything is either handed to you, inherited or bought.
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)Rove (calling Romney) :"Hello Mitt,this is Karl Rove..I read several articles about your son Tagg giving an interview saying that you NEVER wanted to be President ....I want my damn money back NOW!!!!.
Mass
(27,315 posts)marew
(1,588 posts)salinen
(7,288 posts)- If there were any chances of a political Romney future, Tagg just took a shit on it.
- The statement "never met anyone less interested in becoming Pres" makes no sense.
- Tagg now has no political future. Who'd trust him?
- Tagg has a large stake in voting machines. Conflict of interest of the highest order.
- Fuck you Tagg Romney and your spoiled condescending Mother too.
jerseyjack
(1,361 posts)Connecting the first point with the last, we owe Tagg a great deal of thanx.
JJ
catbyte
(38,930 posts)BE President. He and Queen Ann wanted, expected, a coronation, an anointment, which is what makes his complete trouncing that much sweeter. It's always satisfying seeing the bully get his comeuppance. He expected us to just hand it to him, just like everything he's ever gotten. Ha ha.
marew
(1,588 posts)Words of self-proclaimed, almost Queen Ann.
mimi85
(1,805 posts)a FLOTUS Ann compared with Michelle - a beautiful person inside and out. Can you picture Ann planting a garden? Wouldn't want to mess up that mega dollar manicure! The contrast between the two women is stunning!
pangaia
(24,324 posts)whatever Sista Sarah's kids are named.
Freddie
(10,087 posts)There's Tagg, Josh, Matt and 2 more. Anyone?
MurrayDelph
(5,734 posts)and Shemp?
zonkers
(5,865 posts)plethoro
(594 posts)nomination by the MIC so the only person who could cut the Social Safety Net would win. Wait until after first quarter and let's see who's right. There is no way Romney made that 47 per cent speech by some accident, other than it being contrived accident.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)question everything
(51,930 posts)it should thank him for keeping a shred of respectability. If not him who would have been the nominee? Crazy Michelle? Arrogant Newt? Clueless Cain? Neanderthal Santorum?
JBoy
(8,021 posts)He's only ever met people more interested in being president than they guy who actually ran for president.
What utter bullshit.
SHRED
(28,136 posts)pkdu
(3,977 posts)Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
marew
(1,588 posts)Nancy Waterman
(6,407 posts)He didn't win, so he didn't really want it anyway. Yeah right!
Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)and spent a pile of his own money on the first run. Yep, I believe Tagg. I guess that Mittens is still in hiding, pouting over the loss, so he has to trot out his son to be his mouthpiece. Nicely done.
macacawitz
(19 posts).......had no class as a candidate, and continues to have no class now. He and his brood can keep dreaming up excuses, but I'm positive about one thing; he lost because he's a jerk. Fortunately the American people saw him for who he is, and he'll go to his grave one day as just another jerk the world had to endure.
Merry Christmas all. With all the horror we've had to endure recently, we can be grateful for one thing, that this particular Jerk will never, ever, ever be our President.
Pachamama
(17,544 posts)Lot of deep-seated anger, resentment....maybe even far more issues than we saw between Dubya and GHWB.....
Yikes....wouldnt want to be having to be around that, even as a therapist....
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)No Vested Interest
(5,290 posts)what became of the fireworks.
JHB
(38,111 posts)JHB
(38,111 posts)And note the language: Ann wanted to "ascend" to the WH, Tagg said Romney didn't want to "...run". He wanted a coronation, and it doesn't work like that.
DonCoquixote
(13,950 posts)The one percent does not like to believe that the rest of us would dare to oppose them, on either side. Note the utter surprise that many in the GOP had when Obama beat Hillary out; they spoke glowingly of the same woman that, the year before, they would have sent to the electric chair (for the "murder of Vince Foster and other "crimes".)
The security of the one percent lies in the ability to hire minions to fool the masses, the election of 2012 gave a hint that the old reliable tricks might not work anymore.
AndySipowicz
(26 posts)he was a 'fallguy" chosen to run.