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Related: About this forumSchumer: Dems Won’t Negotiate With GOP On Debt Ceiling
SAHIL KAPUR JANUARY 4, 2013, 3:45 PM
Echoing President Obamas refusal to negotiate on the debt limit, Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) warned Republicans on Friday that Democrats have no intention of giving in to any of their demands in exchange for lifting the nations borrowing limit to pay its bills.
I think that risking government shutdown, risking not raising the debt ceiling, is playing with fire, Schumer told reporters in the Capitol, in response to a question from TPM. Anyone who wants to come and negotiate, and say we will raise the debt ceiling only if you do A, B, C will not have a negotiating partner. And if then they dont want to raise the debt ceiling, itll be on their shoulders. I would bet that they would not go forward with that.
The No. 3 Democrat declared that Obama and congressional Democrats have learned their lesson from the 2011 fiasco that nearly led to a default. He predicted that Republicans will give in and cleanly raise the countrys borrowing authority which expires around March if Democrats stonewall and give them no other option.
If they realize for sure that theyre not going to have a negotiating partner, theyll have to find another route to bring the change that they want and they wont risk the full faith and credit of the United States. The only way they get leverage is when they think we might negotiate on those issues. he said. There was a very sad moment in 2011 when that happened. And I think theres a strong consensus at both ends of Pennsylvania Avenue among Democrats not to repeat what I would call I think what most of us would regard as a mistake.
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http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/01/schumer-negotiate-debt-ceiling.php?ref=fpb
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Just say you won't negotiate and ignore them. Don't give in to terrorists. I like what I'm hearing.
bowens43
(16,064 posts)Either way it won't be pretty for liberals or progressives...
forestpath
(3,102 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,829 posts)I'll believe it when I see it.
and, if you negotiate with Republicans, please make them put cuts to Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid on the table in public. They're the ones that want to do it, but a lot of people thought it was Obama a few months ago.
A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)because he gave an interview and said he put it on the table.
Look it up, won't be hard to find.
NewJeffCT
(56,829 posts)but, next time, make the republicans do it.
A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)bemildred
(90,061 posts)polichick
(37,152 posts)demwing
(16,916 posts)Time to get our bad ass on
Cha
(297,804 posts)said after the vote on the fiscal fiasco.
Thanks DonViejo
OccupyManny
(60 posts)We won the election so no negotiations on the debt ceiling. It's all funny money anyway. We need more spending!
santamargarita
(3,170 posts)politicaljunkie41910
(3,335 posts)they exempted social security checks and military paychecks. If the GOP is going to threaten to shutdown the federal government, they should grow a pair, and shut it all the way down and let the chips fall where they may, and not pick favorites, like seniors who tend to vote and the military who fight their wars for them.
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)Cosmocat
(14,575 posts)The sequester is where there is going to be "negotiations."
Filibuster Harry
(666 posts)before the sequestration cuts are discussed. Challenge them to shutting down the government.
The business leaders will pressure them not to do that.