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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 02:48 PM Jan 2013

Conservative women’s group: Gun control hurts women’s self-defense


The Independent Women's Forum says Obama wants to "limit women's capability to fight back against attackers"

BY JILLIAN RAYFIELD

The conservative women’s group the Independent Women’s Forum says that a ban on high-capacity magazines would hurt a woman’s ability to fight back against potential attackers.

In a statement, IWF senior fellow Anna Rittgers suggested that by banning high-capacity magazines and semiautomatic weapons, women will not be able to fight back. ”It often takes several shots to stop one attacker,” Rittgers writes. “If the maximum magazine capacity is 10 (or if all semiautomatic handguns are banned, but 6 shot revolvers remain), and a woman in danger has to stop and reload her weapon while trying to protect her children (who are likely hysterical at this point), it gives the bad guy an opportunity to react–potentially fatally.”

She continues:

Laws limiting magazine capacity and availability of semiautomatic handguns will directly impact women, who use these weapons for self-defense inside and outside the home. Any executive action by President Obama to restrict guns will limit a women’s capability to fight back against attackers and protect herself and her family.


Members of the Independent Women’s Forum have previously been seen arguing that more women in Congress mean “higher taxes, bigger government, and less freedom.”

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http://www.salon.com/2013/01/10/conservative_womens_group_gun_control_hurts_womens_self_defense/
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leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
1. Bullshit
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 02:51 PM
Jan 2013

I'm from a state where gun laws are very strict and I had no problem getting a permit and a handgun for protection. You don't need even need a license for shotgun. The women who are using high capacity magazines are not using them for protection.

hlthe2b

(102,276 posts)
2. What total BS... No woman (in their right mind) is going to go around with an AR15 assault rifle
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 02:52 PM
Jan 2013

and no one is suggesting denying handguns with proper background checks beforehand, which, are not onerous.

I am just done with the lies.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
5. the comments in the posted parts of the link are about handguns and magazines
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 02:57 PM
Jan 2013

not AR15s.

Is there something at the link that suggests the writer is arguing women want ar15s for protection?

hlthe2b

(102,276 posts)
6. Is there something in the administrative's stance suggesting handguns are going to be targeted? Hmm?
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:24 PM
Jan 2013

Once again a strawman BS argument. Not exactly a surprise.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
8. If you're going to pose things as complementary strawmen
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:43 PM
Jan 2013

you could give the rest of us, who can't read your mind some indication...

louis-t

(23,295 posts)
3. Do they even think about what they're saying before
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 02:55 PM
Jan 2013

putting this crap out? Love the scenario they invented. Either Mom is a really bad shot that she has to "stop and reload her weapon" or there are 20 or more ninjas with guns that jump out from behind a bread truck at the supermarket. Sheeesh!

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
4. I can just see it. A woman pulls out her hidden A/R 15
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 02:56 PM
Jan 2013

with a 30 round magazine to defend against an attacker.

lastlib

(23,233 posts)
7. If she can't stop attacker with six shots, she should just shut that whole thing down......
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:42 PM
Jan 2013

Isn't that the true conservative theory?

Du-uh......

apnu

(8,756 posts)
9. What are women supposed to do with the extended ammo clips for assault weapons? Bludgeon someone?
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:51 PM
Jan 2013

These gun nuts are just that, nuts. Look how they immediately jump from a ban on clip size to "gun grab"

These people are paranoid and dangerous. They are the problem... insane people with guns.

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
10. Makes perfect sense
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 05:00 PM
Jan 2013

"A 1997 study that examined the risk factors for violent death for women in the home found that when there were one or more guns in the home, the risk of suicide among women increased nearly five times and the risk of homicide increased more than three times. The increased risk of homicide associated with firearms was attributable to homicides at the hands of a spouse, intimate acquaintance, or close relative."

[link:http://www.vpc.org/fact_sht/domviofs.htm|

So, therefor it makes women less safe to have any regulation of firearms.

1 + 1 = 17, don't you know.

Third Doctor

(1,574 posts)
11. Most women that I know
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 05:15 PM
Jan 2013

have smaller firearms (38) for home protection. Not a semiautomatic rifle. These ladies are just as nuts as their male counterparts.

surrealAmerican

(11,360 posts)
13. These people are morons.
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 07:30 PM
Jan 2013

They clearly haven't thought this through. The attacker is far more likely to have a high-powered weapon than the parent of small children.

Cha

(297,232 posts)
14. Since when are they concerned about "women"? Except
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 07:49 PM
Jan 2013

themselves? Uh huh.

How's that Violence Against Women Act goin?

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