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pnwmom

(110,260 posts)
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 07:41 PM Jan 2013

Why hasn't the Senate passed a budget? Because they don't have the 60 votes

to get around a filibuster.

Another reason we have to change the filibuster rules to keep them from being abused.

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Why hasn't the Senate passed a budget? Because they don't have the 60 votes (Original Post) pnwmom Jan 2013 OP
Maybe because the Constitution provides that all appropriation bills are to originate in the House? Jersey Devil Jan 2013 #1
That is not the reason. former9thward Jan 2013 #3
The budget is why reconciliation rules have been instituted. backscatter712 Jan 2013 #2
The filibuster does not apply to budget resolutions. former9thward Jan 2013 #4
Do Democrats need "60 votes" to start debate though? Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2013 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Cali_Democrat Jan 2013 #5
Here's a pretty good explanation for the Senate not passing a Budget. monolith092068 Jan 2013 #7
Perhaps because the budget the House passed.... Wounded Bear Jan 2013 #8

Jersey Devil

(10,833 posts)
1. Maybe because the Constitution provides that all appropriation bills are to originate in the House?
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 07:47 PM
Jan 2013

Just a wild guess. Article II Section 7: "All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills. "

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
3. That is not the reason.
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 09:09 PM
Jan 2013

The House has passed its version of the budget. The Senate has not voted on the bill for some reason. They could pass their version and then send it to a conference committee for merger. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-02/u-s-house-passes-budget-bill-averts-most-tax-increases.html

backscatter712

(26,357 posts)
2. The budget is why reconciliation rules have been instituted.
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 08:25 PM
Jan 2013

As pointed out, the House must originate all budget bills - appropriations bills. Not just one, but 13 appropriations bills, all of the monster bills that are thousands of pages long.

And because those are money bills, they and the related authorization bills used to implement the budget get to go through the reconciliation process, which bypasses the filibuster in the Senate.

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
4. The filibuster does not apply to budget resolutions.
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 09:14 PM
Jan 2013

You only need 51 votes (or 50 + Biden). Jack Lew when he was budget director tried to say it was the filibuster and the Washington Post fact checker gave him four Pinocchios. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/jack-lews-misleading-claim-about-the-senates-failure-to-pass-a-budget-resolution/2012/02/12/gIQAs11z8Q_blog.html?wprss=fact-checker

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,957 posts)
6. Do Democrats need "60 votes" to start debate though?
Sat Jan 19, 2013, 01:02 AM
Jan 2013

Or can they simply initiate a vote via reconciliation and not have to worry about the debate part?

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Wounded Bear

(64,324 posts)
8. Perhaps because the budget the House passed....
Sat Jan 19, 2013, 11:44 AM
Jan 2013

is a RW wet dream unworthy of sane debate?

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