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cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 02:56 PM Jan 2013

Call Boxer's and Leahy's office and others that are amongst the Dems "on the fence" on filibuster!

According to this article, Senators Merkley and Harkin only needed two more senators to have the majority they needed to get the *TALKING filibuster* in place. According to this article:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/03/filibuster-reform-senate_n_2405008.html

there were seven senators that were still not "signed up" for their talking filibuster reform, which appears it might be watered down now to allowing four more years of obstruction. We need to force Republicans to explain their obstructionism to the public on CSPAN, etc. or in turn if the Democrats are in a minority empower those in the Democratic minority by the SAME rule to help rally the public on progressive stances that are in the public interest to not get steam rollered by Republican majority (if that were ever to happen again).

The talking filibuster is an American tradition to bring back. I'm proud of my current senator, Jeff Merkley, and a former senator of mine (Tom Harkin) for trying to restore it. I'm concerned about two other former senators of mine (Diane Feinstein and Barbara Boxer) for not helping us get this restored. Anyway, here's the list of seven senators and the phone numbers to call now and let them know you want a TALKING FILIBUSTER, NOT the nonsense that will do little to fix the problem that is the "bipartisan" thing being shopped by the corporatists that will continue to have us be uninformed and unrepresented.

Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) DC - 202-224-3553
Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.) - 202-224-4242
Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) - 202-224-3841
Carl Levin (D-Mich.) - 202-224-6221
Mark Pryor (D-Ark.) - 202-224-2353
Max Baucus (D-Mont.) - 202-224-2651
Jack Reed (D-R.I.) - 202-224-4642

It probably wouldn't hurt to call your own senator too to see if they are REALLY "signed on" or not, in case it is not just these senators that are the ones that are keeping the talking filibuster from happening. I believe that of this list that Boxer and Leahy have been noted progressive senators, and from those outside the state, we should be focusing on them, as they really should be wanting this rule to be in place more than the other more blue dog dems listed here.

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Call Boxer's and Leahy's office and others that are amongst the Dems "on the fence" on filibuster! (Original Post) cascadiance Jan 2013 OP
Here's an article on how this still "doesn't have support"... cascadiance Jan 2013 #1
Done Bennyboy Jan 2013 #2
thanks for the info. Contacted both Senator Boxer and Senator Leahy. Now I will continue Filibuster Harry Jan 2013 #3
Just contacted Senator Feinstein's office. I really hope our democrat senators don't Filibuster Harry Jan 2013 #4
k&r ! . . .n/t annabanana Jan 2013 #5
K&R Guy Whitey Corngood Jan 2013 #6
Conservadems.. NorthCarolina Jan 2013 #7
Thanks cascadiance! Cha Jan 2013 #8
Bumping this. CBHagman Jan 2013 #9
Called Senator Boxer and left a message asking her to support the "Talking" filibuster proposal. xxxsdesdexxx Jan 2013 #10
I bet she has lots of offices in Calif you can call. nm rhett o rick Jan 2013 #12
Done this afternoon. patrice Jan 2013 #11
But wait a minute -- what does this mean? gateley Jan 2013 #13
I heard that they would need to actually have 41 senators agree to filibuster rather than needing xxxsdesdexxx Jan 2013 #14
I wonder what the "watered down" thing means? gateley Jan 2013 #15
I think it's considered "watered down" for several reasons xxxsdesdexxx Jan 2013 #17
Thanks again -- do you know why Harry gave up the "get to talk" aspect? gateley Jan 2013 #18
K&R flamingdem Jan 2013 #16
The Anti-filibuster 7, none of them deserve to be called Democrats davidpdx Jan 2013 #19
I'm done with Carl Levin! CobaltBlue Jan 2013 #21
Glad to hear that davidpdx Jan 2013 #23
Now I wish we would have primaried Feinstein in California in 2012. xxxsdesdexxx Jan 2013 #20
Manipulation CobaltBlue Jan 2013 #22
None on this 'weasel list' have defended their stances, which is the least we could expect from them dmosh42 Jan 2013 #24
 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
1. Here's an article on how this still "doesn't have support"...
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 03:08 PM
Jan 2013

Dems need to be reminded of what party they are in!

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/278815-sen-durbin-democrats-lack-votes-to-pass-talking-filibuster-reform

And another from TPM on the status here...

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/01/harry-reid-has-51-votes-filibuster-reform.php

Perhaps Senator Reid should also be called and reminded that the dems DO NOT NEED 51 votes to pass this reform. Just 50, since supposedly Biden can vote it in in case of a 50-50 draw. And Biden supposedly is behind this reform too, is he not?

Filibuster Harry

(666 posts)
3. thanks for the info. Contacted both Senator Boxer and Senator Leahy. Now I will continue
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 04:08 PM
Jan 2013

with Senators Feinstein and Levin.

If or when you contact them let them know this: The senate republicans used the silent filibuster many, many times (100+ in Obama's first year); President Obama only had a super majority from Sept 24, 2009 when Paul Kirk was appointed to the late Ted Kennedy's seat until Feb. 4, 2010 when Scott Brown won the Mass. special election; the affordable care act would not have passed without a super majority which also included Arlen Specter changing parties; If more silent filibusters are allowed the senate Rs will obstruct and hold this country hostage, blame democrats and the president for not getting anything done which could give the Rs wins in 2014 (house and senate); continued obstructionism could hurt either Hillary Clinton or Joe Biden bid for president in 2016. Continued use of the silent filibuster is democrats fault.

Filibuster Harry

(666 posts)
4. Just contacted Senator Feinstein's office. I really hope our democrat senators don't
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 04:29 PM
Jan 2013

blow this chance. I want these people to work for this country not help the Rs continue this obstructionism.
This should be a no-brainer. Do the right, oops, correct thing harry reid.

xxxsdesdexxx

(213 posts)
10. Called Senator Boxer and left a message asking her to support the "Talking" filibuster proposal.
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 11:47 PM
Jan 2013

Also called Senator Feinstein, but wasn't able to leave a message; I was asked to call the California office.

gateley

(62,683 posts)
13. But wait a minute -- what does this mean?
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 12:54 AM
Jan 2013

"...there were seven senators that were still not 'signed up' for their talking filibuster reform, which appears it might be watered down now to allowing for more years of obstruction.:

Does that mean that if the "watered down" version passes, it will in essence do nothing? Are they holding out for REAL change?

I'm confused (obviously).

And just furious at Reed anyway -- WTF is his problem? WE WON, REED! WE HAVE THE MAJORITY! USE IT!

xxxsdesdexxx

(213 posts)
14. I heard that they would need to actually have 41 senators agree to filibuster rather than needing
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 12:59 AM
Jan 2013

to have 60 agree to proceed.

xxxsdesdexxx

(213 posts)
17. I think it's considered "watered down" for several reasons
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 01:34 AM
Jan 2013

One of those reasons is the fact that they won't need to talk.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
19. The Anti-filibuster 7, none of them deserve to be called Democrats
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 04:33 PM
Jan 2013

Barbara Boxer
Patrick Leahy
Dianne Feinstein
Carl Levin
Mark Pryor
Max Baucus
Jack Reed

 

CobaltBlue

(1,122 posts)
21. I'm done with Carl Levin!
Sat Jan 26, 2013, 01:16 AM
Jan 2013

I'm in Michigan. I won't be voting for Carl Levin in 2014. I'd prefer that he make the decision to retire. He was first elected in 1978 and is in his seventh consecutive term. I'm ready for different Democratic leadership from Mich.

Levin turned me off with his bullshit over the extension of the Patriot Act. And last November I did not to vote to re-elect Debbie Stabenow. So, I'm ready for some big changes with the Democratic Party in Michigan. If they keep running the same careerists, the same antiquated and useless group, I'll continue to vote in their political races for Green Party candidates.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
23. Glad to hear that
Sat Jan 26, 2013, 04:32 AM
Jan 2013

You guys need to find someone like Merkley who is a young energetic progressive. It will be a hard task.

xxxsdesdexxx

(213 posts)
20. Now I wish we would have primaried Feinstein in California in 2012.
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 05:41 PM
Jan 2013

We need a democrats who are willing to fight for the progressive cause in our state. As long as we have someone who is competent, and well spoken, they would be able to defeat her in an election.

 

CobaltBlue

(1,122 posts)
22. Manipulation
Sat Jan 26, 2013, 01:19 AM
Jan 2013
By the way: That list is just what Glenn Greenwald described, when we was still with Salon.com, as the "rotating villains" in the last Kabuki theatrics of the full-of-it Democrats. Jon Walker, at Firedoglake.com, had it correct when he wrote that the Senate Democrats aren't actually wanting to govern. This is a lot of manipulation. And it will just continue.

dmosh42

(2,217 posts)
24. None on this 'weasel list' have defended their stances, which is the least we could expect from them
Sat Jan 26, 2013, 07:00 AM
Jan 2013

Now we can look forward to another two years of uselessness by the senate. And that's probably what they wanted anyway. Real scumbags!

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