2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumPoll: Had enough of Obama, yet?
I have posted several polls about Obama beginning with, "No impeachment, lets move forward" to FISA expansion, to Drones to the Surge.
So far, everyone seems happy with the guy. After all, he has a "D" after his name.
Now we have Obama offering to reduce SS and Medicare benefits.
So, I will poll the audience again.
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| Obama is as useless as Jersey Jack's left nut. | |
15 (63%) |
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| Obama is the best President since James Polk. | |
9 (38%) |
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demwing
(16,916 posts)isn't listy enough...
riqster
(13,986 posts)liberal N proud
(61,189 posts)jerseyjack
(1,361 posts)(I am not being snarky or pissed off or anythng. I am smiling as I am typing.)
riqster
(13,986 posts)wandy
(3,539 posts)LiberalFighter
(53,544 posts)Voters need to do their part on a regular basis. Their responsibility doesn't end on election day.
riqster
(13,986 posts)jerseyjack
(1,361 posts)I wanted to make this as simple as possible.
creon
(2,063 posts)You did, indeed make it simple.
Champion Jack
(5,378 posts)"Why do we need another Bullshit, meaningless poll?"
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)Jade Fox
(10,030 posts)I'm not happy with my President today.
Obama appears fixated on trying to appease those who hate him (and always will, regardless of what he does). His behavior seems childish, and frankly, egotistical.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)my corporate negotiation courses sometimes there is really no solution. Everything can not be compromised, yet some cling on caving in and caving in while the others reap the benefits. Unreasonable behavior and NO is a negotiation tactic, and those offering endless compromises fall into their trap.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)aren't allowed to speak?
NYC Liberal
(20,453 posts)Hekate
(100,133 posts)bocephus0706
(27 posts)When will folks learn to stop flying off the handle and be reasonable. Boehner has already rejected this proposal.....besides that, I am one of the many folks in the middle that are glad that a democratic president is the one that will have to correct and modernize the entitlement programs.....and they will have to be "updated"...there is no way around it. there are many many more folks that live a lot longer these days than all those years ago when these programs came in to place.
You should be thankful that you do not have a republican president, senate and a house.....your money would be gone tomorrow.
So please take a chill pill and think before posting stupid polls
juajen
(8,515 posts)This comment ONLY: No democratic president should ever be caught making changes to SS unless it is to double benefits. That would be an interesting change.
immoderate
(20,885 posts)And it's all very possible except for the greed of the rulers.
--imm
NYC Liberal
(20,453 posts)GoCubsGo
(34,855 posts)Admins, have I thanked you lately for the "Trash This Thread" button?
Rosco T.
(6,496 posts)sakabatou
(46,041 posts)Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Especially ones which sort of run contrary to DUs TOS?
MADem
(135,425 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)davidpdx
(22,000 posts)As well as "Had enough of the Obama haters?"
sinkingfeeling
(57,676 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)RKP5637
(67,112 posts)Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)limpyhobbler
(8,244 posts)jerseyjack
(1,361 posts)Aristus
(72,024 posts)In the words of James Carville, "I'm stickin'!"
jerseyjack
(1,361 posts)Dennis
Sharer od
Elizabeth.
No, not Hillary
Aristus
(72,024 posts)Cause that worked out so well the last time! We didn't have to have a moderate, DLC Democrat for President at all. Dodged a bullet there...
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Do you claim that only right leaning Third Way types yammering about faith are actual Democrats? To vote for a liberal is to vote for an independent? Don't you support all Democrats? Apparently not.
dtotire
(1,889 posts)Shivering Jemmy
(900 posts)LeftInTX
(34,076 posts)limpyhobbler
(8,244 posts)RKP5637
(67,112 posts)MrSlayer
(22,143 posts)Reagan is the father of modern American fascism and yet on several important issues he seems more enlightened and left leaning than Obama in retrospect. Richard Nixon was flat out liberal in comparison.
This is bad. We have to stop pretending that we aren't being sold down the river by our "own" people. There hasn't been one President on the side of the People since Carter and he was suspect as well. He was the one that started taxing unemployment benefits after all.
Reagan/Bush started the ball rolling with their trickle down voodoo economics, Clinton fucked us further with NAFTA and Wall Street deregulation, the Chimp took supply side economics to disastrous levels and now we have Obama "leaving the past in the past" and gutting the safety net.
And there's always an excuse, even when we have majorities in both houses there are never enough votes to do the right thing but always votes to spare on the wrong things. And that's because the leadership of this party is just as bought off and compromised as the entire Republican Party. The policies that would actually fix our problems aren't even considered, they're dismissed out of hand.
We need to face the facts. We have no representation anymore. The progressive caucus and senators like Liz Warren and Bernie Sanders have no power. And they're the only ones that get it right.
Doing the right thing on social issues is great, those are the bones they throw at us and say "See, he's a liberal" while our balls get cut off economically. The economy is the biggest social issue and making most of the Bush tax cuts permanent in exchange for a pittance in revenue is not progressive. Offering to cut Medicare and SS in exchange for a pittance in revenue is not progressive. I'm just sick of these third way "Democrats" not giving a fuck about us. I'm sick of the bullshit and excuses. I'm sick of starting negotiations at the point where any compromise ends up deep in the right wing's wheelhouse.
When do we ever stake out a position and make them come to us? Never. It's always sliding to the right, always appeasing them. I'm just fed up with the whole charade.
backscatter712
(26,357 posts)Cha
(318,352 posts)"Had enough of my stupid ass polls?"
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)bigwillq
(72,790 posts)Love the choices and love all the comments!
dionysus
(26,467 posts)tarheelsunc
(2,117 posts)Without knowing how exactly useless your left nut is, this question is impossible to accurately answer.
and-justice-for-all
(14,765 posts)I do not always agree with Obama on everything, but I sure as fuck would not want Robocorp in the WH@
Rhiannon12866
(253,868 posts)While I disagree most vehemently with cutting Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, think we should be raising them, this president hasn't broken any laws.
UBEEDelusional
(54 posts)the OP was referring to how the current administration and Dems in general are REFUSING to investigate past crimes and the crimes currently being committed today by elected leaders and their staffs to cover up and block any investigations into the crimes that were committed.
In other words...Bush and Co is guilty of war crimes and everyone knows it. Obama and Company are blocking and refusing to investigate said crimes which makes them just as guilty and we won't get into all the new crimes that the Obama admin has committed that are unrelated to Bush and Co's crimes.
Have no fear the next administration will do nothing either we just have to accept the fact our government is being run by criminals.
The big picture - It is also why our Gov refuses to sign on to the ICC too America is above the law according to some.
rucky
(35,211 posts)graham4anything
(11,464 posts)Why?
Due to the ignore function, most people ignore most posters with views like those in the OP so they not only don't vote, they don't see them in the first place.
Like the anti-NRA anti-Gun threads.
BTW, that reminds me, why do almost all the most anti-Obama people who put up dozens of anti-Obama whine rants, never want to get rid of guns/bullets from the street and think guns/bullets are freedoms
It's so weird.
Reminds me of the town halls in 2010
The republican town halls had people for the republican tea party all parading with guns
The democratic town halls had NO democratic people parading with guns, but the same tea party people paraded at those two
to send a message about guns/bullets/libertarian rights. Much like the people who put up all those spam Ron Paul stickers and don't want to hear about how Ron is the BFF with David Duke and the John Birch Society
Jees, my mind wonders sometimes.
Anything President Obama does is fine by me. May his agenda continue forever.
Too bad LBJs didn't and Nixon/Bush/Reagan took over.
MjolnirTime
(1,800 posts)alfredo
(60,286 posts)if Obama was white.
Actually Obama said he'd give them chained CPI if they'd accept more tax revenue from the rich, knowing they would reject his offer. They regected his offer.
riverbendviewgal
(4,396 posts)Yes, you are.
Were you not happy to hear that Connecticut passed a strict gun control law.
Then BE THE PEOPLE...like they were.
watch this video.
16 minutes out of your life
http://www.ted.com/talks/lawrence_lessig_we_the_people_and_the_republic_we_must_reclaim.html
There is a corruption at the heart of American politics, caused by the dependence of Congressional candidates on funding from the tiniest percentage of citizens. That's the argument at the core of this blistering talk by legal scholar Lawrence Lessig. With rapid-fire visuals, he shows how the funding process weakens the Republic in the most fundamental way, and issues a rallying bipartisan cry that will resonate with many in the U.S. and beyond.
Lawrence Lessig has already transformed intellectual-property law with his Creative Commons innovation. Now he's focused on an even bigger problem: The US' broken political system
Doc_Technical
(3,752 posts)A large percentage of the citizens of this country
(the ones who even bother to vote) are more than
happy to let other people do their thinking for them
and depend on base emotion as the deciding factor
on which to justify their decisions.
So many voters don't vote FOR one candidate as much as
they vote AGAINST another candidate.
"I'm glad candidate A won the election because he is less
of a corporate whore than candidate B."
WeekendWarrior
(1,437 posts)You do realize that Obama can promise anything he wants to the Republicans and it will not matter. He can suggest cuts to SS and Medicare with impunity. BECAUSE HE KNOWS THEY'LL NEVER COMPROMISE. They cannot compromise with Obama because their base will not let them.
This is clearly political posturing for 2014, to continue to make the GOP look like the obstructionist bullies they are. Every poll shows that Americans believe Obama is the one willing to compromise and the GOP is the reason for Washington gridlock.
That's exactly what Obama and the Democrats WANT people to think and to continue thinking.
Try looking beyond today or tomorrow and think about what's at stake in less than a year. The worse Republicans look, the better off we'll all be.
Splinter Cell
(703 posts)I do not have a problem with Obama.
he is one of the very small number of people in Washington with any sense.
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)appacom
(296 posts)Orsino
(37,428 posts)...if we forced him to beg for money at every step, surrounded him with much more corrupt politicians who cared only about the interests of the wealthy, then acted surprised when the necessary compromises of government came out all fucked up.
Just be glad we're not there yet.