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Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) spoke with conservative radio host Rusty Humphries on Wednesday, The Hill reports, standing by an earlier contention that the tea party and anarchist movements were similar in their general disdain for government.
I believe that, my experience with the Tea Party is they are against government in any form. They do throw monkey wrenches into the government, Reid told Humphries, who had earlier said that he considered himself to be a tea party guy. Its evident. We cant get things done. They dont want anything to happen in government. We pass laws. They fight funding the laws we pass. They dont want government to work. I want it to work."
Reid made the initial claim last month during a Senate floor speech in which he argued that "government is inherently good." While he admitted that the tea party wasn't violent like anarchists in their anti-government expression, Reid claimed the movement's distrust had made legislating much more difficult over the past years.
"We have a situation where this country has been driven by the tea party for the last number of years," he said. "When I was in school, I studied government and I learned about the anarchists. Now, they were different than the Tea Party because they were violent. But they were anarchists because they did not believe in government in any level and they acknowledged it."
Reid continued: "The Tea Party kind of hides that. They don't say they're against government, but that is what it all amounts to. They're not doing physically destructive things to buildings and people, directly, but they are doing everything they can to throw a monkey wrench into every form of government, whether it's local, state or federal. That's what it's all about."
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/02/harry-reid-tea-party_n_3200340.html?utm_hp_ref=politics
Yeah, like 'filibuster reform' Harry? Indeed.
apnu
(8,756 posts)I see zero difference between the tea baggers and anarchists. Both want to eliminate government, both claim dubious altruistic motives of doing me a favor, both haven't fully thought out what, exactly, they're calling for and both share a conscious ignorance to history.
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)so Reid's comments seem reasonable to me.
There are free-market libertarians who believe in social freedoms and they tend to call themselves Libertarians.
And there are free-market libertarians who don't believe in social freedoms and they tend to identify with the tea party.
But both groups share an anti-government attitude.
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)After its primary victories this week in Delaware and New Yorkfollowing ones in Kentucky, Arizona, and Alaskathere is no longer any question about whether to take the Tea Party seriously. Come 2011, we are likely to have Mama Grizzlies in the House and Senate, and the movement's gravitational pull is sucking in traditional Republicans by the day. While the Tea Party doesn't control the GOP, it's likely to remain the largest force acting on it for some time.
So who are these people and what do they want from us? A series of polls, as well as be-ins like Glenn Beck's Washington rally last month, have given us a picture of a movement predominated by middle-class, middle-aged white men angry about the expansion of government and hostile to societal change. But that profile could accurately describe the past several right-wing insurgencies, from the California tax revolt of the late 1970s to the Contract with America of 1994not to mention the very Republican establishment that the Tea Party positions itself against. What's new and most distinctive about the Tea Party is its streak of anarchismits antagonism toward any authority, its belligerent style of self-expression, and its lack of any coherent program or alternative to the policies it condemns.
In this sense, you might think of the Tea Party as the Right's version of the 1960s New Left. It's an unorganized and unorganizable community of people coming together to assert their individualism and subvert the established order. But where the New Left was young and looked forward to a new Aquarian age, the Tea Party is old and looks backward to a capitalist-constitutionalist paradise that, needless to say, never existed. The strongest note in its tannic brew is nostalgia. Tea Partiers are constantly talking about "restoring honor," getting back to America's roots, and "taking back" their country.
SNIP
louis-t
(23,292 posts)44% think armed rebellion is in our future. Hell, they wish for such things. They show up armed and scream for "2nd amendment remedies". Tea Party crazies ARE violent.
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)I agree with you -- that 44% number of nut cases is very scary.
(But espousing violence wouldn't be a difference with some anarchists. Anarchists aren't pacifists; they're all over the spectrum.)
louis-t
(23,292 posts)Quote from Harry Reid.
bemildred
(90,061 posts)Well, that is a rather interesting argument.