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Christy vetos early voting bill for NJ (Original Post) bigdarryl May 2013 OP
Yeppers JustAnotherGen May 2013 #1
I didn't/won't vote for him. But he is polling 75% in New Jersey. graham4anything May 2013 #3
Yeah JustAnotherGen May 2013 #4
At the least, we need to win every other office, and look at Bradley-Whitman. graham4anything May 2013 #6
And with shifting weather JustAnotherGen May 2013 #7
Yes, agreed one needs though to vote straight 100% democratic no matter who the (D) is. graham4anything May 2013 #12
the ads against Christie have already started too tabbycat31 May 2013 #24
Don't believe those polls remember Whitman vs. Florio bigdarryl May 2013 #10
There is D vs R, and there is NJ vs the rest of the world Cosmocat May 2013 #11
Christy praised the President following Sandy. rdharma May 2013 #28
Demonstrating that he is still a fucking republican liberal N proud May 2013 #2
NJ though already has a 100% mail in or absentee vote for anyone who wants to. graham4anything May 2013 #5
So JustAnotherGen May 2013 #8
YES. ...after a question is answered- graham4anything May 2013 #14
I think it would have to JustAnotherGen May 2013 #17
Every opportunity to put bills in front of him to show how republican he really is will be a win for okaawhatever May 2013 #9
So Much For Being An Advocate For Democracy - Just Another Republican Diminishing The Right To Vote cantbeserious May 2013 #13
Hello mtasselin May 2013 #15
what could possibly be wrong with more representation? RedstDem May 2013 #16
Hey, that was MY question! Why on earth did Christie do this? CTyankee May 2013 #18
Because he's a ARROGANT PRICK!!!!! bigdarryl May 2013 #19
Yes, but usually he has a "cover" for his arrogance... CTyankee May 2013 #21
he's showing his partisanship tabbycat31 May 2013 #25
I guess he's afraid of the big bad voter FRAUD... CTyankee May 2013 #26
And I wish the media would stop portraying this guy as a moderate tabbycat31 May 2013 #27
Democrats who are falling for this jerk ought to be ashamed of themselves! Wake up, Democrats!!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2013 #20
and wait til women get the full story on his anti-choice views... CTyankee May 2013 #22
AND...anti-gay, pro-school vouchers stance, not to mention the horrible treatment of public workers. Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2013 #23
 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
3. I didn't/won't vote for him. But he is polling 75% in New Jersey.
Fri May 10, 2013, 05:42 AM
May 2013

However, NJ is blue, and they could override the veto as they have the votes to do so.

JustAnotherGen

(37,771 posts)
4. Yeah
Fri May 10, 2013, 05:47 AM
May 2013

I know. But we can't take a defeatist attitude and assume it is inconceiveable that Buono can win. I encourage all New Jerseyans at DU to volunteer for her campaign and most important - canvass in minority neighborhoods.


We must get folks fired up to vote like they are voting for Obama.

We can't win Hunterdon County - but Newark is not Flemington. Fired up - we win,

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
6. At the least, we need to win every other office, and look at Bradley-Whitman.
Fri May 10, 2013, 05:54 AM
May 2013

Whitman almost beat a Bradley who thought he was so invincible that he almost didn't bother.

There is early voting in a sense that anyone without any reason can absentee vote by mail.
I don't know the legalities but I know our library keeps the papers for anyone to pick up right out in the open

A mailed in ballot means the vote is on the books.(but does require a few steps).

Christie could be beaten if his voters stay home figuring he is going to win.

JustAnotherGen

(37,771 posts)
7. And with shifting weather
Fri May 10, 2013, 06:04 AM
May 2013

Patterns due to Climate Change - what if yet again - we have a late October disaster?

I know you are a huge devotee of Clinton - but everyone said she would win in 2008 - and she didnt. Then everyone said McCain would win - people would "not vote for a black President".

And Christie IS going to fight. The ads have already started.

A Game - or no game. I'm not a defeatist that rolls over and plays dead - so 75% is just a number.

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
12. Yes, agreed one needs though to vote straight 100% democratic no matter who the (D) is.
Fri May 10, 2013, 06:21 AM
May 2013

we need to get the vote out.

Rep. Freylinghausen's time has come and gone(and what a big district he lives in, and what a shape of it, zigzagging everywhere.)

Though I think 2016 is more likely to oust him if Hillary is on the ballot.

Just yesterday a study of the voters showed blacks outnumbered whites in 2012 for the first time in % that voted. That is needed in off year elections in all states, and especially a state like NJ.
Same with all democratic voters.

It starts with straight democratic voters though
100% top to bottom, bottom to top straight democratic line

That is what all democratic party GOTV leaders need to stress, and democratic voters need to do.

Straight 100% democratic line

 

bigdarryl

(13,190 posts)
10. Don't believe those polls remember Whitman vs. Florio
Fri May 10, 2013, 06:14 AM
May 2013

Florio was polling ahead in all polls before that election.NJ is notorious for bad polling.

Cosmocat

(15,374 posts)
11. There is D vs R, and there is NJ vs the rest of the world
Fri May 10, 2013, 06:19 AM
May 2013

Whatever extent politics normally come down to D vs R, he is an absolute 100 percent fit for the general NJ attitude and personality.

Bold, direct, unabashed ...

He has a lot of appeal to a lot of people in the state regardless of his policy tendencies because he is who NJ people are.

Nationally, it will be different.

He can go all Snooky on people at the shore and NJ people will get all warm and fuzzy, but his short fuse won't work for him as well outside the NJ border.

 

rdharma

(6,057 posts)
28. Christy praised the President following Sandy.
Fri May 10, 2013, 01:12 PM
May 2013

And THAT really pissed the baggers off!

Now he's trying to get back in the good graces of his nasty Republican colleagues because I think he's going to try to run for Pres. in 2016.

This veto and his lap band procedure indicate that he's positioning himself for a run.

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
5. NJ though already has a 100% mail in or absentee vote for anyone who wants to.
Fri May 10, 2013, 05:50 AM
May 2013

and you don't even need an excuse.

So in actuality, anyone can and does vote early already

JustAnotherGen

(37,771 posts)
8. So
Fri May 10, 2013, 06:06 AM
May 2013

Everyone should be mailed a ballot that is registered in case we have snow on Halloween(2011) or another Sandy (2012)?

See post up thread. You couldn't just run down to the library and grab one in 2012 in many towns in horse country. Somerville was not passable and had no power. The libraries were not own here. The election happened the week after Sandy.

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
14. YES. ...after a question is answered-
Fri May 10, 2013, 06:27 AM
May 2013

does requesting one mean one has to send that in and not vote?
Want to make sure before saying a definite here
Can you request, not send it in and still go to polls if you don't?

Remember in Sandy, how long it took to count all the 2012 votes.
and yes, NJ and NY both can now pencil in two storms in both Sept. and Oct like the last 2 years.

(and remember, on 9-11-2001, that was an election day and voting already had started that morning and the election was postponed, and it was a mess).Rudy actually tried to cancel the elections that year.

JustAnotherGen

(37,771 posts)
17. I think it would have to
Fri May 10, 2013, 08:27 AM
May 2013

Because there is no way outside 'forces' (Koch Brothers / Adelson / TEApublicans) would 'allow' us to do this:

does requesting one mean one has to send that in and not vote?


They are the money guys behind all of this legislation to keep minorities from voting in this country.

OR - We could have early voting - even for minorities and folks in poor communities in NJ.

I really do not see WHY we can't have early voting. The cost really isn't that big of a deal for a state as wealthy as New Jersey. And after Christie has treated teachers, first responders, State Union members like mangy rabid dogs -

We've got the money to make sure that every one who wants to cast a vote can. I mean - after what he's done and all . . .



okaawhatever

(9,565 posts)
9. Every opportunity to put bills in front of him to show how republican he really is will be a win for
Fri May 10, 2013, 06:10 AM
May 2013

dems. His best chances for winning in 16 rest on people not finding out what his true agenda would be. He's gop no doubt about it. One of the only reasons people don't know what he would do given the opportunity is because of the make up of the state legislature.

mtasselin

(668 posts)
15. Hello
Fri May 10, 2013, 07:19 AM
May 2013

To all of the people of New Jersey, wake up this guy is a piece of shit. He has done what is best for Christy and that is all if he was able to help some working people on the way so be it. Stopping people from voting early is just another sign on how big of a asshole he really is.

 

RedstDem

(1,239 posts)
16. what could possibly be wrong with more representation?
Fri May 10, 2013, 07:23 AM
May 2013

its the exact opposite of serving the people.trying to minimize their access to vote.
antidemocratic.

was there some noxious part of this proposal to justify a veto?

CTyankee

(67,909 posts)
21. Yes, but usually he has a "cover" for his arrogance...
Fri May 10, 2013, 08:49 AM
May 2013

vetoing a measure that helps people exercise their basic right to vote just doesn't make sense politically...it's irrational...

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
23. AND...anti-gay, pro-school vouchers stance, not to mention the horrible treatment of public workers.
Fri May 10, 2013, 11:29 AM
May 2013

and corporate give-aways!!

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