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kimbutgar

(21,130 posts)
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 11:17 AM Jul 2013

A vote for republicans is a vote to lose ones rights

A vote for republicans is a vote to lose women's rights

A vote for republicans is a vote to turn the US into a religious theocracy

A vote for republicans is a vote against workers rights

A vote for republicans is a vote not rebuild our infrastructure, raise the minimum wage, have safe food and a clean environment.

A vote for republican is a vote to privatize our public schools, police, firefighters and postal service.

We should spread this far and wide between now and November 2014 to our friends, relatives, social media just get the message out the republicans are not for the people and they will take more of our rights away if they take over all three branches.

Any women voting republican should have her head examined.

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A vote for republicans is a vote to lose ones rights (Original Post) kimbutgar Jul 2013 OP
2014 should be all about women in the DNC's ad budget. onehandle Jul 2013 #1
vote republican, cut your own throat. Sunlei Jul 2013 #2
Vote either major party and cut your on nineteen50 Jul 2013 #17
Clueless bullshit. nt. MH1 Jul 2013 #22
Must have hit your hurt realty stings. nineteen50 Jul 2013 #32
Vote 3rd party or stay home and watch Republicans win Freddie Jul 2013 #29
I learned the nineteen50 Jul 2013 #33
you may aswell not vote at all if you can't see it's RW terrorists who have ruined USA Sunlei Jul 2013 #37
The decline has been going on since the mid 70s nineteen50 Jul 2013 #38
The decline started in the early 80's with Reagan. xtraxritical Jul 2013 #48
all I can say is WOW just WOW nineteen50 Jul 2013 #49
If DU Allows These Kinds of Posts Yavin4 Jul 2013 #61
Voted democratic nineteen50 Jul 2013 #62
and the Dem's rather than fight nineteen50 Jul 2013 #73
not everyone is afraid or believes the R propaganda crap and outright lies to Americans. Sunlei Jul 2013 #75
In a right wing country. nineteen50 Jul 2013 #76
Reagan was the first big union buster (air traffic thousands fired) He's a R hero. Sunlei Jul 2013 #78
Maybe if I said it this way nineteen50 Jul 2013 #79
In 1980 Obama just started college and more global experiences. Sunlei Jul 2013 #80
I didn't leave the Dem Party it left me for the run to the right. nineteen50 Jul 2013 #81
I don't think Ds are anywhere close to the hellish, liar rightwing. Sunlei Jul 2013 #82
Yeah history is a bitch its easier to nineteen50 Jul 2013 #83
That's just stupid when it comes to women's issues treestar Jul 2013 #71
If the Democratic central committee and party in general nineteen50 Jul 2013 #72
K & R giftedgirl77 Jul 2013 #3
+1 freshwest Jul 2013 #5
There are libertarians running? Doctor_J Jul 2013 #6
Really? giftedgirl77 Jul 2013 #18
Rand Paul is a Republican. Check the little letter next to his name Doctor_J Jul 2013 #25
My original post stated to not forget giftedgirl77 Jul 2013 #28
No one at DU is going to vote for anyone with an (R) after his/her name Doctor_J Jul 2013 #41
Ok, for the last time I was elaborating giftedgirl77 Jul 2013 #50
Are you hoping to find a couple .... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #64
huh? Doctor_J Jul 2013 #65
Rs probably have something on him, Rand is another useful r-arm at this time. Sunlei Jul 2013 #77
A woman voting Republican is like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders Freddie Jul 2013 #4
^^^This^^^ riqster Jul 2013 #59
Yup. Unfortunately Doctor_J Jul 2013 #7
Both parties belong to the same nineteen50 Jul 2013 #19
It was cool Obama put on his nineteen50 Jul 2013 #34
I liked when he stood firm against the HC bill that didn't contain a strong public option Doctor_J Jul 2013 #40
The corporate owned two party system has to be broken nineteen50 Jul 2013 #42
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #8
What do you think of Ron Paul? Ratty Jul 2013 #9
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #10
As a female I'll stick to the party Freddie Jul 2013 #30
Seems people may lose their rights no matter who they vote for. merrily Jul 2013 #11
Agreed! Iliyah Jul 2013 #12
Republicans believe this is all about saving the Great White Males. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #13
No nineteen50 Jul 2013 #35
More troubling ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #14
BINGO Iliyah Jul 2013 #15
^^^this^^^ Freddie Jul 2013 #31
I was told if I voted republican I would be for nineteen50 Jul 2013 #36
Told by whom? ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #43
My 1960s democratic friends that are now considered nineteen50 Jul 2013 #45
Troll ^ xtraxritical Jul 2013 #51
The ability to tell nineteen50 Jul 2013 #53
Yep. Americans are very liberal on issues from health Care to Domestic Spying to Gay Marriage Doctor_J Jul 2013 #57
Even the supreme court corporate bitch Roberts nineteen50 Jul 2013 #60
I kind of doubt ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #63
It will continue to get worse regardless of which major party is in control nineteen50 Jul 2013 #66
Ahhh .... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #67
I hope it opens some eyes and puts a stop to nineteen50 Jul 2013 #39
Isn't that a talking point? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #44
Maybe I just made it up. nineteen50 Jul 2013 #47
If you vote DEmocratic you still may lose those things. rhett o rick Jul 2013 #16
Agreed Iliyah Jul 2013 #20
And failing ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #23
You mean the 1950 troll? xtraxritical Jul 2013 #52
Sorry, I dont understand. nm rhett o rick Jul 2013 #54
The poster above called nineteenfify, I'm sure he's trolling. xtraxritical Jul 2013 #55
I get it. nm rhett o rick Jul 2013 #56
Gun ? GoLeft2004 Jul 2013 #21
Huh, what are you going on about? nt MH1 Jul 2013 #24
My bad English. GoLeft2004 Jul 2013 #27
A vote for a republican will make the NRA the 4th branch of the US government kimbutgar Jul 2013 #68
Republican = sucks. Got it. Deep13 Jul 2013 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author felix_numinous Jul 2013 #46
And voting 3rd party is a half vote for republicans. sadbear Jul 2013 #58
But Republican voters see LIBERTY and FREEDOM... polichick Jul 2013 #69
So true. It's amazing how many women fall for the religious thing treestar Jul 2013 #70
A vote for Republicans is a vote for servitude. nt bemildred Jul 2013 #74

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
1. 2014 should be all about women in the DNC's ad budget.
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 11:28 AM
Jul 2013

You don't even have to mention abortion.

This is a war on the health of 51% of Americans.

nineteen50

(1,187 posts)
17. Vote either major party and cut your on
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 01:56 PM
Jul 2013

throat. Vote either major party and kiss your rights goodbye. Vote either major party and watch your environment devastated by eithers pet projects.

 

xtraxritical

(3,576 posts)
48. The decline started in the early 80's with Reagan.
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 07:11 PM
Jul 2013

Both parties are NOT responsible Mr. Troll, the Republican party is solely responsible, Mr. Troll.

nineteen50

(1,187 posts)
62. Voted democratic
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 10:06 PM
Jul 2013

my whole life even helped in campaigns and I call bullshit on blaming one party for all the problems. Ever wonder why nothing gets done. Blind allegiance and hypocrisy.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
75. not everyone is afraid or believes the R propaganda crap and outright lies to Americans.
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 10:01 AM
Jul 2013

The President has always been a moderate.

nineteen50

(1,187 posts)
76. In a right wing country.
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 10:08 AM
Jul 2013

Were Reagan couldn't even get elected today and Nixon is considered the last real liberal president. Why do we continue to support Republican Lite. I am now debating who the greatest recent Republican president was, Clinton or Obama.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
78. Reagan was the first big union buster (air traffic thousands fired) He's a R hero.
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 10:38 AM
Jul 2013

Nixion was just another corrupt, liar he's also a R hero. Yeah the countries 'owned' by right wing profiteers and they don't like worker class or lower class Americans. Except for their vote.

I don't agree with you at all that the recent R propaganda out there in media land has changed much of anything as far as the Presidents honesty and policies.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
80. In 1980 Obama just started college and more global experiences.
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 12:46 PM
Jul 2013

Reflecting later on his years in Honolulu, Obama wrote: "The opportunity that Hawaii offered—to experience a variety of cultures in a climate of mutual respect—became an integral part of my world view, and a basis for the values that I hold most dear."

Following high school, Obama moved to Los Angeles in 1979 to attend Occidental College. In February 1981, he made his first public speech, calling for Occidental to divest from South Africa in response to its policy of apartheid.[28] In mid-1981, Obama traveled to Indonesia to visit his mother and half-sister Maya, and visited the families of college friends in Pakistan and India for three weeks.[28] Later in 1981, he transferred to Columbia College, Columbia University in New York City, where he majored in political science with a specialty in international relations[29] and graduated with a Bachelor of Arts in 1983. He worked for a year at the Business International Corporation,[30] then at the New York Public Interest Research Group.[31][32]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama

"majored in political science with a specialty in international relations" IMO the man was destined and in life training to be President one day.



nineteen50

(1,187 posts)
72. If the Democratic central committee and party in general
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 09:50 AM
Jul 2013

really wanted this issue resolved it would have been years ago.

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
3. K & R
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 11:39 AM
Jul 2013

Let's not forget that Libertarians are republicans & if you vote for one of them you can kiss all of our environmental protections good bye as well as anything else they can dismantle when is comes to discriminatory practices as well.

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
18. Really?
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 01:57 PM
Jul 2013

Rand Paul has been laying the groundwork for months. He has been running all over the country trying to garner support by laying down his bs "I care for the little people" from Cali to New York.
Last I checked nobody has thrown their hat in the ring. But his actions speak volumes, touring Iowa & New Hampshire come to mind.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
25. Rand Paul is a Republican. Check the little letter next to his name
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 02:22 PM
Jul 2013

As soon as he changes it to (L), his career will nosedive.

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
28. My original post stated to not forget
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 02:40 PM
Jul 2013

about the libertarians who run as republicans because they are even more dangerous due to their views on all laws that inhibit the growth of big business such as the EPA laws & the fact that he also believes business should not be regulated when it comes to wages & discriminatory practices.

He may not put an L behind his name but that doesn't change his beliefs.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
41. No one at DU is going to vote for anyone with an (R) after his/her name
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 05:14 PM
Jul 2013

Not Rand Paul, not Ron Paul, not any (R). The original OP said don't vote Republican for a variety of reasons. Your post said libertarians either. So if you were referring only to libertarian Republicans, your post said nothing. If OTOH you were trying to again insinuate that those of DUers who don't think everyone's phone should be monitored might vote (R), you've broken with reality.

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
50. Ok, for the last time I was elaborating
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 07:16 PM
Jul 2013

on the original posters statement & if you didn't like the point all you had to do was state so but there is an entire group of ppl who will try & sell the Libertarian meme as a better option than a true Republican for a varity of reasons to include civil liberties & especially after this NSA fiasco.

If you have a problem with me adding to the discussion simply because I elaborated on what other concerns are out there for these small factions within the GOP then I don't know what to tell you, other than stop responding to my posts.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
64. Are you hoping to find a couple ....
Sun Jul 7, 2013, 09:30 AM
Jul 2013

here at DU who are willing to vote for someone with an (L) after his/her name?

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
65. huh?
Sun Jul 7, 2013, 09:38 AM
Jul 2013

This entire web site is restricted to people who vote (D). The efforts by the Fan Club to conflate those who don't think our phone calls are government property with Rand Paul voters is pathetic and useless. What's more, their unflagging defense of every rightward lurch by the president is driving people away from the polls and away from the party.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
77. Rs probably have something on him, Rand is another useful r-arm at this time.
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 10:25 AM
Jul 2013

The big Rs will use & dump him just like they and the son dumped daddy paul.

'R vote collector', waste of Americas time placeholder in politics..just like his daddy.

Freddie

(9,259 posts)
4. A woman voting Republican is like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 12:11 PM
Jul 2013

And staying home or voting 3rd party is the same as voting Republican.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
7. Yup. Unfortunately
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 12:45 PM
Jul 2013
A vote for republicans is a vote against workers rights

A vote for republicans is a vote not rebuild our infrastructure, raise the minimum wage, have safe food and a clean environment.

A vote for republican is a vote to privatize our public schools, police, firefighters and postal service.


These three are now bipartisan initiatives (TPP, KeystoneXL, Monsanto exemption, Arne Duncan), along with "saving" Social Security and Medicare, extending wars, proffering most of the tax cuts to billionaires. Used to be our party had a long list of stark differences with the Repukes. Now we're basically down to abortion rights and gay marriage. Good luck rallying the masses with that "centrist" platform.

nineteen50

(1,187 posts)
19. Both parties belong to the same
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 02:00 PM
Jul 2013

country club and take their orders from the same international corporate power-elite difference is one uses sweet talk and lubricant the other doesn't.

nineteen50

(1,187 posts)
34. It was cool Obama put on his
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 03:14 PM
Jul 2013

walking shoes like he said he would and joined the union marchers in Wisconsin. Damn talk is cheap.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
40. I liked when he stood firm against the HC bill that didn't contain a strong public option
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 05:07 PM
Jul 2013

Campaign Obama would have been a historic president. Unfortunately he left the scene the day after he became president-elect Obama.

Organized Labor is still one of our blocs, for reasons I can't quite fathom. As long as Repukes want to regulate uteri, disenfranchise people of color, and imprison gays, we'll probably have enough groups to not go extinct. IMO we are wasting an opportunity to run the GOP off the Earth

Response to kimbutgar (Original post)

Ratty

(2,100 posts)
9. What do you think of Ron Paul?
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 01:00 PM
Jul 2013

You think the Libertarian Party is what's needed to restore our rights? Just curious.

Response to Ratty (Reply #9)

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
12. Agreed!
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 01:23 PM
Jul 2013

Ummm, no, Dems believe in civil liberties and most are against NSA. Not to vote and allowing like 2010 crazies to take the house is a vote for GOPers.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
14. More troubling ...
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 01:43 PM
Jul 2013

(and not trying to hi-jack the thread, but) every person that sits at home or votes 3rd party in the 2014 General election is a vote (or non-vote) for losing one's rights.

That is the danger (and I believe design) of this NSA/Snowden thing ... it's dividing and disheartening Democrats and those that would vote Democrat; but energizing those supporting the modern gop because it gives them something erlse to think about than their sorry candidates and platform.

nineteen50

(1,187 posts)
36. I was told if I voted republican I would be for
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 03:33 PM
Jul 2013

spying on Americans and giving up my 4th Amendment rights so I voted Democtatic and guess what?

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
43. Told by whom? ...
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 06:44 PM
Jul 2013

Now ... do you think this situation will get better or worst with a republican House and Senate? Do you think any of the things that President Obama accomplished would have occurred with a republican Senate? Do you think your life (and the lives of the people you care about will be better or worse with republicans in control?

Think, people. I can't believe liberals are so easily gamed.

nineteen50

(1,187 posts)
45. My 1960s democratic friends that are now considered
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 07:02 PM
Jul 2013

communist socialist etc. The political middle has moved so far right because of your type of thinking that Reagan would have to run on the Green Party ticket. You do know that Nixon created the Environmental Protection Agency and signed laws including the Clean Air Act and the Marine Mammal Protection Act? I think if you polled Americans on all the progressive issues they would be highly in favor, yet our Democratic Party continues to push us right ignoring the fight because they believe they need the apparatus of the 1% to get elected and the people do not have their backs so they sell out. We have one party today the Republicrates and it is corporate neo-con, neo-liberal, extreme court owned.

nineteen50

(1,187 posts)
53. The ability to tell
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 07:19 PM
Jul 2013

to tell the difference between the truth and a lie has been murdered by blind allegence and his inebriated accomplice hypocrisy.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
57. Yep. Americans are very liberal on issues from health Care to Domestic Spying to Gay Marriage
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 08:15 PM
Jul 2013

to reproductive rights to minimum wage. Yet our DC so-called Dems will not embrace these issues. They are completely beholden to the same corporations that the (R)'s are.

nineteen50

(1,187 posts)
60. Even the supreme court corporate bitch Roberts
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 09:03 PM
Jul 2013

couldn't leave the money left on the table for insurance and pharma by Obama-care.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
63. I kind of doubt ...
Sun Jul 7, 2013, 09:20 AM
Jul 2013

your "democratic friends" were telling you that in the 1960's ... maybe your "communist socialist" friends, but not your Democratic friends.

Yes, I know Nixon created the EPA and signed environmental laws ... I also know that Lincoln freed the slaves, Reagan was a Union Boss and GWB supported comprehensive immigration reform that started with amnesty and had a clear (relatively quick) path to citizenship. {Note to 1950 ... that tactic is kind of an identity/agenda tell ... I've seen/heard it a lot. }

I, also, know that the majority of americans poll favorably on progressive solutions; yet "progressives", for all their issue support, rarely survive primaries (in most parts of the country) ... when they run at all! {I know ... I know ... the Democratic Power Establishment (of the 1%) won't let progressives run! }

But thanks for the lecture ... Now if you'd be so kind as to answer my questions ... do you think this situation will get better or worst with a republican House and Senate? Do you think any of the things that President Obama accomplished would have occurred with a republican Senate? Do you think your life (and the lives of the people you care about will be better or worse with republicans in control?

nineteen50

(1,187 posts)
66. It will continue to get worse regardless of which major party is in control
Sun Jul 7, 2013, 10:23 AM
Jul 2013

just as it has since the mid 70s. Unless the people get in the street and force change if that happens both parties will throw bones to the people given to them by their 1% power-elite. For me the difference between the parties amounts to one using sweet talk delayed (chained) timing and lubricant and the other just straight in your face.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
16. If you vote DEmocratic you still may lose those things.
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 01:52 PM
Jul 2013

We need to support progressive Democrats. THere are lots of DINO's.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
20. Agreed
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 02:02 PM
Jul 2013

but many of the DINOs are in RED states.

I personally think that the Democratic party will help to protect the civil liberties than band them tho.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
23. And failing ...
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 02:05 PM
Jul 2013

the presence of progressive Democrats, like it or not ... a vote for DINOs still puts us ahead of the alternative, since voting history demonstrates that DINOs still vote with the Democratic Caucus 70+% of the time. And, 70% of something is better than 100% of nothing.

 

GoLeft2004

(41 posts)
27. My bad English.
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 02:28 PM
Jul 2013

I'm asking the OP to say GOP against gun's law is killing our children (my English sucks) and then copy to my Face book.

kimbutgar

(21,130 posts)
68. A vote for a republican will make the NRA the 4th branch of the US government
Sun Jul 7, 2013, 11:00 AM
Jul 2013

The Treyvon Martin/ Zimmerman incident will be an everyday occurence In America
Where Zimmerman gets off.

Response to kimbutgar (Original post)

sadbear

(4,340 posts)
58. And voting 3rd party is a half vote for republicans.
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 08:21 PM
Jul 2013

That's the reality republicans know all too well when teabaggers have supported their own brand of crazy authoritarian over the republicans'.

polichick

(37,152 posts)
69. But Republican voters see LIBERTY and FREEDOM...
Sun Jul 7, 2013, 01:09 PM
Jul 2013

They've been so manipulated by propaganda TV and radio - and don't do their own homework.

The 1% and right wing extremists just sit back and laugh at all the fools they're able to control.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
70. So true. It's amazing how many women fall for the religious thing
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 09:35 AM
Jul 2013

They believe their husbands are going to stick to their roles and that'll make their lives OK, I guess.

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