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polichick

(37,152 posts)
Sat Aug 31, 2013, 01:52 PM Aug 2013

DEPT. OF PEACE - a fitting legacy for President Obama...

...a man awarded the Nobel Peace Prize from the get-go.

Establishing such a department, staffed with anthropologists and other experts who understand what is really going on in other countries and what it all means to the people, would honor the American people, citizens across the world - and his own anthropologist mother.

It would also begin the dismantling of the military industrial complex that Eisenhower warned us about so long ago.

THAT'S the action that makes sense now.

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polichick

(37,152 posts)
2. At least he got that the mic is completely out of control...
Sat Aug 31, 2013, 02:13 PM
Aug 2013

and that peace is something that has to be worked at - and first INTENDED.

polichick

(37,152 posts)
3. I guess nobody thinks such a thing is possible...
Sat Aug 31, 2013, 08:24 PM
Aug 2013

I'd like to believe it's possible - better than thinking the WH, Defense and State depts. will continue to do the bidding of the mic, or that war will always be seen as an acceptable solution.

Alas, a Dept. of Peace is possible but not probable.

polichick

(37,152 posts)
8. Looks like we're at a place in history when even Dems...
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 08:49 AM
Sep 2013

think it's a joke to want a Dem president to establish a Dept. of Peace.

The conclusion I came to a couple of years ago is that we have one corporate/mic party with two faces. Yes, that's what we have - but I can't help myself from wanting something else.

mnhtnbb

(31,392 posts)
9. The United States Institute of Peace
Tue Sep 3, 2013, 08:40 PM
Sep 2013

already exists in DC--built across from the Lincoln Memorial and just down the street from the State Department.




For info about it: http://www.usip.org/

polichick

(37,152 posts)
10. I like the building! I guess it would have to be Cabinet level to...
Tue Sep 3, 2013, 09:21 PM
Sep 2013

make a big difference.

Sadly, this president seems determined to prove that his Peace Prize was a mistake.

mnhtnbb

(31,392 posts)
11. I agree. I'd like to see a Cabinet level post, too.
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 09:00 AM
Sep 2013

Last time in DC I was hoping to tour this Institute. But it's only open for appointments--and seminars.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
17. Isn't that the Sec of State?
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 10:48 PM
Sep 2013

Really, shouldn't a Secretary of Peace be a rough equivalent of the Secretary of State? Isn't that really what diplomacy should be about in the modern age? I'll admit that's not the way it is working right now but if Obama really wanted to make a legacy, it would be to drive the State Department away from justifying wars and towards avoiding them. It is strange to see the Kerry up testifying in support of military action in Syria. Shouldn't that be the Sec Def? Shouldn't a Secretary of State be the guy providing options NOT to go to war?

polichick

(37,152 posts)
18. I agree, that's what State SHOULD be, but it's filled with...
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 09:01 AM
Sep 2013

people who have lived and breathed the mic for decades. Not sure you can even fire most of them, since they're not political appointees.

fujiyama

(15,185 posts)
15. I don't see the point
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 10:34 PM
Sep 2013

I think we can accomplish many of the same goals by cutting DoD spending by a significant amount.

We could actually then increase funding for State Department diplomatic efforts (hire translators, etc), programs like the Peace Corps (provide better assistance in building infrastructure), as well as make a more concerted effort in providing immunization and vaccinations in developing nations. Our universities (public and private) do excellent work in anthropology and many other areas. Students interested in pursuing those subjects should have their education more affordable.

polichick

(37,152 posts)
16. Unfortunately, the DoD and State are big enablers of the MIC...
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 08:27 AM
Sep 2013

If Obama wanted to leave a lasting legacy of peace - which is not likely at this point - a Cabinet level Dept. of Peace would be a good move.

My point in mentioning anthropologists, etc. is that far too often gov't "experts" are military experts or those invested in war. Chris Hayes talked about this last night - what kind of people are NOT in the room when discussing things like Syria. Same thing happened with healthcare - many true experts were not invited, while Billy Tauzin (pharmaceutical lobbyist) and other such "experts" were at the WH many times.

A Cabinet level Dept. of Peace would signal that the U.S. wants to approach the world in a different way.

Do I think this president or either party is really interested in taking Eisenhower's advice about the mic? NO.

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