2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWTF? Nine Democrats who voted for the shutdown?
These guys should be called out by our President...
And here are the nine Democrats who supported it:
Reps. Mike McIntyre (N.C.), Dan Maffei (N.Y.), Sean Maloney (N.Y.), Jim Matheson (Utah), Steven Horsford (Nev.), Ron Barber (Ariz.), John Barrow (Ga.), Raul Ruiz (Calif.) and Kyrsten Sinema (Ariz.).
Scuba
(53,475 posts)Thanks to DUer RC for this graphic.
vi5
(13,305 posts)Anyone know if they are just in super conservative districts or something? The others stink as well but at least politically and geographically, without knowing those districts either at least there's a chance that they make some degree of sense at least politically.
dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)I'm not sure what's up here...I'm going to call his office and get an answer. If I get the "wrong" answer, I'm driving up to Cold Spring to give him a big piece of my mind.
http://seanmaloney.house.gov/
antiquie
(4,299 posts)He votes against repeal of the ACA.
He beat Mary Bono for his seat.
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)They should be beating on his door as should all the dems. in that district.
Heather MC
(8,084 posts)Blue Meany
(1,947 posts)to see if their were enough Republicans to pass it. Then they would have switched votes. Perhaps the idea was to give moderate Republcans they idea that they could vote for it without tipping the balance and then switch at the last minute to make it pass.
zazen
(2,978 posts)Where each person draws a line--I don't know.
But on a vote where they know the Republicans are going to win anyway, they can throw their vote "away" and satisfy the centrists in their crazily redrawn (illegal under any normal law) districts, and thereby hope a little longer they can hold onto it. I don't know that this is always the best strategy, but some do have a larger good in mind. In NC we're holding on for dear life.
hedgehog
(36,286 posts)plus a major manufacturer of medical equipment. He campaigned against the tax on medical equipment, but posted on his site his opposition to the shut-down.
My guess is that he was given permission to vote this way by Pelosi in return for his votes on other issues.
Cooley Hurd
(26,877 posts)They only use temps for entry level positions and Bill Allyn is a big Repug donor. He should NOT be defending them since they didn't vote for him anyway.
Not to mention, their products suck ass...
ancianita
(36,017 posts)pnwmom
(108,973 posts)to vote against the party if the vote won't change the actual outcome.
ancianita
(36,017 posts)constituents.
pnwmom
(108,973 posts)in a conservative district than to have a Rethug.
The idea that politicians can work to convince their constituents is awfully optimistic . . . .
ancianita
(36,017 posts)pnwmom
(108,973 posts)which is difficult when you're completely out of synch with your district.
ancianita
(36,017 posts)Democratic thinking. Get the voters 'in synch' with a vision instead of pure self-interest. It's on-the-ground teaching of informing, civics, governance and engagement toward the greatest good for the greatest number that's at the heart of the job, not the marketization of politics, which is only the biggest part of the job because politicians sold out to such cash-driven values.. Then getting elected won't be such a dodgy process.
pnwmom
(108,973 posts)couldn't make it when his district got gerrymandered into a conservative one.
It's not a realistic idea to think that progressive can educate a conservative district into electing him or her.
pnwmom
(108,973 posts)Response to busterbrown (Original post)
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busterbrown
(8,515 posts)The Gay Community out there will become stronger and stronger as the old time right wing conservatives continue to die out.. I am not gay but have loads of friends who are..many of which have already moved..
So then soon it will be time to boot Dr.Ruiz.. Correct?
DEMTough
(90 posts)He ran on Bono Mack's neglect of the Hispanic Community over in Riverside, and even with their support and the coattails of a Presidential election that was quite favorable to Democrats, he barely won. In fact, I believe that his election was one of the last few called last year.
Is he worth giving the boot to? I don't think so, he's got incumbency on his side this time, though, so he's got to work it to his favor to get through '14. And if we don't work to make '14 a Democratic year, he will lose, with someone far, far worse. He's the first Democrat to represent his area since 1970.
It's hard to find Democratic congresspeople in CA south of L.A. though I'll admit, we all deserve better than those we have.
A possible coalition of the gay and Hispanic communities can create a good environment for a progressive candidate in the area, or a shift in Ruiz's policies. He is in a unique position.
He's pretty young, so he can grow with his district. He gives me inspiration, being a young politician, and me being a college student with aspirations of my own.
P.S. I also admit that I misread that article that I posted. Was in a rush today. My mistake. In clarification, I do disagree with Ruiz's and the others votes.