2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBiden too old, Hillary too conservative...
We need a young, charismatic LIBERAL on the ticket in 2016.
Who do we have?
hamsterjill
(15,437 posts)I am holding out for Hillary.
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)Schema Thing
(10,283 posts)antiquie
(4,299 posts)any contraindications?
djean111
(14,255 posts)I agree with the OP.
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)last1standing
(11,709 posts)Other than his support of PIPA and a few other anti-progressive measures, his record stands up well.
polichick
(37,465 posts)to put another corporatist into the WH.
I'd like an authentic liberal populist, period.
Warpy
(112,983 posts)"nobody ever heard of" before the race. Obama is one, few people outside the rarefied atmosphere of political pages on the net had heard of him. Nobody outside the south had ever heard of Carter or Clinton. One of Kerry's main problems was that people had heard of him and ASSumed he hadn't grown up after Vietnam.
I'm not sweating it. I know it will take many years of concerted effort with many slipbacks to try to change the direction of the massive ship of state. It's like the Titanic, the damned rudder's just too small.
However, that process has now started and little can stop it.
I honestly don't think Biden is too old, he seems to be in pretty good shape. Clinton, however, is far too conservative although she did a marvelous job at the State Department.
Somebody else will stick his head up and his neck out in the next 3 years.
polichick
(37,465 posts)if they want a representative who will put people before corporations.
(Think TPP)
Warpy
(112,983 posts)and, since banks and hedge funds successfully fought off any of the regulation that would prevent it, it is now inevitable.
Most people prefer order to prosperity, it seems, until the prosperous manage to gut enough regulations to wreck the whole system.
polichick
(37,465 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)But I doubt we could convince them to run.
sofa king
(10,857 posts)indepat
(20,899 posts)littlewolf
(3,813 posts)TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)LoisB
(8,286 posts)Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)I'm so totally kidding...
Avalux
(35,015 posts)We'll have to make due with Hillary or Joe (most likely Hillary) until then.
rock
(13,218 posts)Conservative counts but does not apply.
TeamPooka
(25,105 posts)davidpdx
(22,000 posts)Below I started a state by state list. Feel free to reply to my post.
RC
(25,592 posts)Someone whose actions match his talk. You know, actually stand up to the Right of Reality Republicans. Someone like Alan Grayson, or Elizabeth Warren, but be someone who wants the job.
What is with all the support for Right of Center, Republican Lite around here? Haven't we seen the damage the DLC, DINO, 3rd Way, New Democrats, etc have done so far?
CaliforniaPeggy
(151,566 posts)We REALLY need to get away from that.
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)Gimme Warren, O'Malley, Dean, or my personal favorite Al Gore.
tavernier
(13,131 posts)And I bet she'd win.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)I know it's not politically correct, but Hilary Clinton is too old as well. I hope neither will run. Everyone else from the last primary in 2008 have retired or ended up in their own personal train wreck (in the case of Edwards). I know some people feel passionate about Warren. I supported her and very much like her as a senator, but I don't think she'll run.
We need an entirely new generation of people to run. As for names, it would be interesting to go state by state and draw up a list.
If you want to, feel free to reply with your state and offer suggestions.
So here is mine for Oregon:
Senator Jeff Merkley
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)up there in age, yet that never stopped either of them from running. But I agree. Also I never was too crazy about Hillary, anyway, but I just don't like the idea of having any particular candidates forced upon me as a Democrat. Up until this point, she has claimed that she won't run again, but the media (especially MSNBC) have basically been pushing her to be the inevitable nominee. Whenever it's a slow news cycle, they ALWAYS speculate about how she fares against potential rivals and whether she'll run, even after countless times of her saying "no".
jmowreader
(51,239 posts)He's only 60 and he's the smartest guy in the room in the one place our next president has to excel.
Samantha
(9,314 posts)It is discriminatory to consider it. I do agree we need a liberal.
But I do like Martin O'Malley! I like Biden as well. Warren. Brown.
Sam