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Biden too old, Hillary too conservative... (Original Post) Pab Sungenis Oct 2013 OP
Sorry, but I disagree. hamsterjill Oct 2013 #1
same here DesertRat Oct 2013 #22
Martin O'Malley, of course. Schema Thing Oct 2013 #2
He looks good to me, antiquie Oct 2013 #3
That sounds interesting! djean111 Oct 2013 #4
I like this guy too. HappyMe Oct 2013 #19
i agree and suggest someone like Sherrod Brown. last1standing Oct 2013 #5
Sometimes "charisma" just means bullshitting enough voters... polichick Oct 2013 #6
The party has been good about tapping people Warpy Oct 2013 #7
The party will serve up another corporatist - voters should draft someone... polichick Oct 2013 #12
That's not going to happen until there's another financial meltdown Warpy Oct 2013 #13
Voters may wise up a bit when they figure out what the TPP is about. polichick Oct 2013 #15
just look at the people on DU who support the one who played a leading part in drafting TPP. antigop Oct 2013 #23
I hoping for John Stewart or Steven Colbert.... Agnosticsherbet Oct 2013 #8
There's this awesome kid named Barry Obama! sofa king Oct 2013 #9
Biden too old, Hillary too conservative, Warren just spot-on! indepat Oct 2013 #10
thought the same thing. nt littlewolf Oct 2013 #25
Warren or O'Malley for me, at this time. TwilightGardener Oct 2013 #11
Agree. LoisB Oct 2013 #14
JOE-MENTUM!!! Jeff In Milwaukee Oct 2013 #16
Hmm....Julian Castro....but not until 2020. Avalux Oct 2013 #17
Old doesn't count. rock Oct 2013 #18
Let's make this The Al Franken Decade. TeamPooka Oct 2013 #20
I'd go with that davidpdx Oct 2013 #29
I agree, we do need a real, actual Liberal, for a change. RC Oct 2013 #21
I agree about the damage from the Right of Center etc that you mention here. CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2013 #24
k&r AtomicKitten Oct 2013 #26
Betty White tavernier Oct 2013 #27
I agree davidpdx Oct 2013 #28
Ron Paul and John McCain are Jamaal510 Oct 2013 #30
How about Paul Krugman? jmowreader Oct 2013 #31
Age is not a factor Samantha Oct 2013 #32

last1standing

(11,709 posts)
5. i agree and suggest someone like Sherrod Brown.
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 01:02 PM
Oct 2013

Other than his support of PIPA and a few other anti-progressive measures, his record stands up well.

polichick

(37,465 posts)
6. Sometimes "charisma" just means bullshitting enough voters...
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 01:04 PM
Oct 2013

to put another corporatist into the WH.

I'd like an authentic liberal populist, period.

Warpy

(112,983 posts)
7. The party has been good about tapping people
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 01:04 PM
Oct 2013

"nobody ever heard of" before the race. Obama is one, few people outside the rarefied atmosphere of political pages on the net had heard of him. Nobody outside the south had ever heard of Carter or Clinton. One of Kerry's main problems was that people had heard of him and ASSumed he hadn't grown up after Vietnam.

I'm not sweating it. I know it will take many years of concerted effort with many slipbacks to try to change the direction of the massive ship of state. It's like the Titanic, the damned rudder's just too small.

However, that process has now started and little can stop it.

I honestly don't think Biden is too old, he seems to be in pretty good shape. Clinton, however, is far too conservative although she did a marvelous job at the State Department.

Somebody else will stick his head up and his neck out in the next 3 years.

polichick

(37,465 posts)
12. The party will serve up another corporatist - voters should draft someone...
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 01:16 PM
Oct 2013

if they want a representative who will put people before corporations.

(Think TPP)

Warpy

(112,983 posts)
13. That's not going to happen until there's another financial meltdown
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 01:19 PM
Oct 2013

and, since banks and hedge funds successfully fought off any of the regulation that would prevent it, it is now inevitable.

Most people prefer order to prosperity, it seems, until the prosperous manage to gut enough regulations to wreck the whole system.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
17. Hmm....Julian Castro....but not until 2020.
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 01:45 PM
Oct 2013

We'll have to make due with Hillary or Joe (most likely Hillary) until then.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
21. I agree, we do need a real, actual Liberal, for a change.
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 03:02 PM
Oct 2013

Someone whose actions match his talk. You know, actually stand up to the Right of Reality Republicans. Someone like Alan Grayson, or Elizabeth Warren, but be someone who wants the job.

What is with all the support for Right of Center, Republican Lite around here? Haven't we seen the damage the DLC, DINO, 3rd Way, New Democrats, etc have done so far?

CaliforniaPeggy

(151,566 posts)
24. I agree about the damage from the Right of Center etc that you mention here.
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 04:28 PM
Oct 2013

We REALLY need to get away from that.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
28. I agree
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 11:42 PM
Oct 2013

I know it's not politically correct, but Hilary Clinton is too old as well. I hope neither will run. Everyone else from the last primary in 2008 have retired or ended up in their own personal train wreck (in the case of Edwards). I know some people feel passionate about Warren. I supported her and very much like her as a senator, but I don't think she'll run.

We need an entirely new generation of people to run. As for names, it would be interesting to go state by state and draw up a list.

If you want to, feel free to reply with your state and offer suggestions.

So here is mine for Oregon:

Senator Jeff Merkley

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
30. Ron Paul and John McCain are
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 03:04 AM
Oct 2013

up there in age, yet that never stopped either of them from running. But I agree. Also I never was too crazy about Hillary, anyway, but I just don't like the idea of having any particular candidates forced upon me as a Democrat. Up until this point, she has claimed that she won't run again, but the media (especially MSNBC) have basically been pushing her to be the inevitable nominee. Whenever it's a slow news cycle, they ALWAYS speculate about how she fares against potential rivals and whether she'll run, even after countless times of her saying "no".

jmowreader

(51,239 posts)
31. How about Paul Krugman?
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 05:32 AM
Oct 2013

He's only 60 and he's the smartest guy in the room in the one place our next president has to excel.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
32. Age is not a factor
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 02:23 AM
Oct 2013

It is discriminatory to consider it. I do agree we need a liberal.

But I do like Martin O'Malley! I like Biden as well. Warren. Brown.

Sam

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