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The Tea Party, Not Democrats or Republicans, Is the Problemby Jon Favreau Oct 21, 2013 5:45 AM EDT
Its de rigueur to decry partisanship as Washingtons real problem. Lets get realthe most destructive force in American politics today is the Tea Party, says Jon Favreau.
So now that our government is open and able to pay its bills, what soon-to-be-forgotten lessons have we learned from this sorry fiasco?
Perhaps most important is the reminder that political temper tantrums in Washington exact a toll that goes far beyond unfavorable headlines and worse-than-dog-poo poll numbers. This decision hurt people. Some families couldnt pay their bills. Others had nowhere safe to send their children while they worked. Poor women lost vouchers that helped buy food and formula for their newborns. Cancer treatments were put on hold for patients who didnt have much time to waste.
All told, the shutdown and flirtation with default cost America north of $20 billion. The countries that werent busy mocking us were frightened by our behavior, wondering if the worlds wealthiest nation would become the worlds deadbeat nation, taking everyone else down with us in a global collapse worse than 2008.
And for what? For what purpose was this pain and humiliation inflicted upon the American people?
Yes, you, Rep. Marlin Stutzman from Indiana. Do you have an answer?
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Scuba
(53,475 posts)They're Republicans. Don't let them off the hook.
UncleTomsEvilBrother
(945 posts)They housed the Tea Party disease and let it fester. They should not be allowed to remove themselves from it. McConnell, McCain, Graham, and other Republicans who come off as "sensible" have all seen benefits from Tea Party mania. When the dust settles, they always vote on the party line.
loveandlight
(207 posts)They let it go on and on. The "moderate" Repubs could have stopped this at any time, but chose not to. So it is on them as a party. If they don't challenge these people up front and every time, then the whole party accepts the blame.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)but they are just Republicans and to claim otherwise is to serve Republicans. If they were a separate group, Republicans would call them out rather than caucus with them.
There is no such thing as the Tea Party, they are just a sort of Republican. The fault belongs to Republicans, to the Republican Party.
freebrew
(1,917 posts)for longer than there was a tee party.
Remember Nixon? How about Hoover, Reagan, Bush I & II
Gingrich the lizard.
No, the Republicans are the problem, they work for the rich, ONLY.
Cosmocat
(14,575 posts)LONG before the "tea party" these jackasses spend tens of millions of dollars in witch hunts before bringing up articles of impeachment on a President for a personal discretion that half of the morons voting for it were guilty of.
LONG before the "tea party" these jackasses took the first balanced budget in nearly half a century and blew it up.
LONG before the "tea party" these jackasses ramrodded this country into Iraq.
There is not enough time in this day to list all the disasters the Republicans have imposed on this country before the "tea party" came about.
Avalux
(35,015 posts)They run as Republicans, and if the party can't manage its members, they're responsible. Sorry, but the GOP doesn't get a pass on their extreme wing.
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As we saw in 2012, the Tea Party are friends of Dems. The more incumbent Republicans they knock out, the more DEM pickups there are.
JHB
(37,163 posts)1) There is no "tea party". It's just a rebranding of of the rabid conservative wing. Sometimes it has a name, like "Birchers", but it's always there. These people wanted Bill Clinton impeached, and cheered Dubya when His Squandership launched his neoconservative joyride in Iraq.
2) The "moderate" wing who went along with the nutters as long as it got them their tax cuts, privatization, and deregulation.
If the "moderates" didn't join with the nutters in Party Line votes that would be the envy of the Soviet Politburo, the nutters wouldn't have any leverage. They'd howl, but wouldn't be able to accomplish (or destroy) anything. But without the lockstep the "moderates" couldn't do much either, so they stay in the phalanx.
They're all responsible.
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TheKentuckian
(25,029 posts)You need to stop trying to carve outa phony "center" for your corporate Democrats and their opposite numbers among TeaPubliKlans.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)funded by republicans.