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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 08:39 AM Nov 2013

Stop calling JFK conservative: The right’s favorite new lie is filled with historical flaws

The right's embrace of JFK is filled with historical flaws on taxes and abortion -- and ignores his real record

BY PAUL ROSENBERG


Conservatives have two favorite ways to deal with liberals. The first, Plan A, is to slander and demonize them. It was part of Rick Santorum’s shtick, for example, to blast John F. Kennedy for supposedly kicking religion out of public life — or at least getting the ball rolling. As he told ABC’s George Stephanopoulos early in 2012, “Kennedy for the first time articulated the vision saying, no, ‘faith is not allowed in the public square. I will keep it separate.’ Go on and read the speech ‘I will have nothing to do with faith. I won’t consult with people of faith.’“Of course Santorum was lying about what Kennedy said in his famous Houston speech on separation of church and state, where he allayed Protestant fears that he would rule as an agent of the Vatican, rather than simply as an American citizen.

But it wasn’t just Kennedy’s own words that refuted Santorum’s claim. More important, as I explained in a column for Al Jazeera English, Kennedy refuted Santorum’s slander with his actions as well:

Kennedy never shunned religious leaders. To the contrary, on June 17, 1963, just two days before he introduced the Civil Rights Act (passed after his death), Kennedy met with a delegation of 250 religious leaders to discuss the issue. The meeting was held in the East Room of White House and Kennedy arranged for a follow-up process as well. What he did not do was take religious instructions, as opposed to exchanging ideas and opinions.


So much for conservatives’ “Plan A” — slandering JFK. Now conservatives are trying “Plan B” – pretending that Kennedy was actually a conservative all along, just in time for the 50th anniversary of his assassination. They’ve tried this repeatedly with Dr. Martin Luther King, but they never get any traction outside of the Fox News crowd — though not for lack of trying. Now they’re going after Kennedy as well, lead by Ira Stoll and his new book, “JFK, Conservative.”

full article
http://www.salon.com/2013/11/03/stop_calling_jfk_conservative_the_rights_favorite_new_lie_is_filled_with_historical_flaws/
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Stop calling JFK conservative: The right’s favorite new lie is filled with historical flaws (Original Post) DonViejo Nov 2013 OP
Oh good Lord shenmue Nov 2013 #1
He believed in social programs, the safety net, and "a rising tide lifts all boats." MADem Nov 2013 #2
It's kind of telling that they want to own JFK, not Raygun now. bemildred Nov 2013 #3
conservative? yeah, rrright RussBLib Nov 2013 #4
And more so why their spinmasters worked overtime Iceberg Louie Nov 2013 #5

shenmue

(38,506 posts)
1. Oh good Lord
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 08:42 AM
Nov 2013

Have they no shame? Is there anyone whose past they won't try to claim?

Dead people aren't here to defend themselves against lies.

Kennedy was a liberal and a good one and proud of it.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
2. He believed in social programs, the safety net, and "a rising tide lifts all boats."
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 08:48 AM
Nov 2013

He was also a strong advocate for both public service and a healthy, prepared and professional military.

He was never a conservative. That's just silliness.

We can cherry-pick Reagan's comments all day (particularly vis a vis social security and medicare) and fashion him as a liberal, if we'd like. That might make a few heads explode.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
3. It's kind of telling that they want to own JFK, not Raygun now.
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 09:33 AM
Nov 2013

They did that back in the 70s and 80s too, all liberal as hell in public, because they knew then, like they know now, that the public does not support what they want to do.

Iceberg Louie

(190 posts)
5. And more so why their spinmasters worked overtime
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 11:44 AM
Nov 2013

to paint their patsy as a hardcore Marxist, somehow carrying out the wet dream of the conservative extremists in a city packed with John Birchers...

I guess that's a whole separate thread, but you are correct...

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