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http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/09/audio-chris-christie-koch-brothers-seminarIn our exclusive recordings, David Koch introduces the New Jersey governor as "my kind of guy" and "a true political hero."
Click for Part 1 of this two-part series: "Exclusive Audio: Inside The Koch Brothers Secret Seminar
Also read Gavin Aronsen's breakdown of top Koch donors: "Exclusive: The Koch Brothers' Million-Dollar Donor Club"
On the morning of June 26, Chris Christie, New Jersey's flamboyant, tough-talking Republican governor, appeared on NBC's Meet The Press. He then jetted out to Colorado, delivered a keynote speech at Charles and David Koch's ultra-exclusive seminar at the Ritz-Carlton resort near Vail, and returned home the same night, all without breathing a word about his adventure to his constituents.
In Part 1 of this report, we gave you the inside scoop on the Kochs' top-secret strategy meeting, where hundreds of wealthy patrons were urged to open their wallets for what Charles Koch described as "the mother of all wars"the effort to unseat President Obama. We also told you we'd obtained exclusive audio recordings from the event. And we promised to reveal the identity of the main keynote speaker.
With security extraordinary on the seminar's opening nightaudio speakers around the periphery of the outdoor dining pavilion blasted out static to thwart eavesdroppersDavid Koch introduced Gov. Christie as "my kind of guy." (The two had previously met in private at Koch's New York City office, he revealed.) Before long, seminar attendees were roaring with laughter as Christie regaled them over dessert, telling them how, in his first weeks in office, he'd exercised extraordinary executive powers to impound billions of dollars in planned spending. ("The good news for all of you and for me," he said, "is that the governorship in New Jersey is the most powerful constitutional governorship in America."
brucefan
(1,549 posts)more from the article:
In one instance, Christie cut a fellowship program run by a Rutgers University professor who had served as a referee in the state's contentious redistricting fight. He also "mowed down a series of Democratic add-ons, including $45 million in tax credits for the working poor, $9 million in health care for the working poor, $8 million for women's health care, another $8 million in AIDS funding and $9 million in mental-health services," wrote Star-Ledger columnist Tom Moran. "But the governor added $150 million in school aid for the suburbs, including the wealthiest towns in the state. That is enough to restore all the cuts just listed."
In response, Sweeney went nuclear on Christie, claiming he "wanted to punch him in his head" and comparing the governor to "Mr. Potter from 'It's a Wonderful Life,' the mean old bastard who screws everybody," according to the paper. "Don't be vindictive and punish innocent people," he ranted. "These people didn't do anything to him. It's like a bank robber taking hostages. And now he's starting to shoot people." For good measure he called Christie "a cruel man," "mean-spirited," and "a rotten prick."
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During the Q&A, one of the questioners wondered what Christie had learned in New Jersey that might be applied to the nation. His answer was direct: "This is not hard. We spend too much. We borrow too much. We tax too much. It is time to turn those three things around."
"Now, pain will be inflicted when we change that," he went on. "People are going to do with less. People who are used to having entitlement at a certain level will not have them at that level anymore. That's the story." Christie cited Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan's "courageous" and "thoughtful plan" to "fix those systems" by replacing Medicare with a voucher program.
weissmam
(905 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Heather MC
(8,084 posts)If he is the Republicans first pick for the General Election Good, We already have enough to destroy him
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)I don't think I could stand him as president.
Heather MC
(8,084 posts)Black
Female
Liberal
Pro Choice/ Life <--- We are taking that from them
My hubby is a teacher
I have 4 valid ID's
And
I VOTE
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)It would be bad enough if you were just black or female but you're also a liberal. And your husband is a teacher! And you are pro-choice. They must find a way to prevent you from voting!
Heather MC
(8,084 posts)My voting precinct is a block away. No excuses for me not to be there
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)and those that struggle to make their way honestly are the ones that are lacking souls and equate them with being subhuman.
I can't help but think that history is repeating its self except this time the political group isn't conspiring in a beer hall.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)When this pig was giving Hillary a run for her money
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)Anyone that thinks this guy has been thoroughly vetted should think again.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)The 'Kingdom Coming' will be Koch controlled. They are close, very close.
zeemike
(18,998 posts)As to why Democrats support him and not his oponent...the don't want the wrath of the Koch money to come down on them.
Just as you had better bow to the king three times before you approach him if you want to keep your head.
PeoViejo
(2,178 posts)He who has the most Money wins.
zeemike
(18,998 posts)Being a vassal pays well.
PeoViejo
(2,178 posts)gtar100
(4,192 posts)I'm sure they love its beauty but they defile the place simply by their presence. Its what they do to every place they go to. Greedy assholes that they are.
hue
(4,949 posts)Besides the WW town they have a huge compound in CO.
http://realestate.aol.com/blog/2012/08/23/billionaire-bill-koch-builds-his-own-wild-west-town-on-his-color/
The Wild West isn't gone -- in fact, it's re-emerging in Colorado.
Billionaire Bill Koch is building an entire Wild West town (pictured above) on his 6,400-acre Bear Ranch in Gunnison County, Colo., the Denver Post reported. It has 50 buildings, which include a saloon, a jail, a church and a train station.
But Old West enthusiasts shouldn't expect to visit Koch's private, unpopulated town: It's for his amusement only and reportedly will not be open to the public.
another link with a map:
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-08-30/welcome-to-kochtown-population-1
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DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)It's galt's Gulch!
How much you want to bet it has a working gallows for liberals?
otohara
(24,135 posts)The Petit Hameau (The Little Hamlet), or "Le Hameau de la Reine, was situated in the English-style gardens of the Petit Trianon. Created in 1783, the Petit Hameau was a mock farm area, complete with farmhouse, dairy, and poultry yard all areas traditionally associated with women.
When visiting this ersatz farm, Marie Antoinette and her attendants would dress as shepherdesses, and play at milking the cows and tending other docile animals. The farmhouse interior was more opulent, featuring all of the luxuries expected by the Queen and her ladies.
The Petit Hameau was part of the landscape of the "natural" English garden, but it was also a reflection of France's cultural values on the eve of the Revolution. This artificial nature retreat mirrored the moral values associated with natural simplicity and virtuehttp://www.pbs.org/marieantoinette/life/hameau.html
ErikJ
(6,335 posts)They push the extremists to move the political spectrum to the right while also supporting the more electable centrists.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)or Center Right. That's what the two-party system demands. No one of the outer "fringes" can get elected, they can, however somewhat influence the Platform Policy.
So those who don't want the Democrats to receive corporate money and think it's too early to start courting voters and donors, will hopefully rethink. Christie is already there. Bush just needs to make some phone calls and show up with his Hispanic wife down the road. The others are irrelevant.
Corey Booker got 90% of the money donated...saw a tally. Barbara Buono got next to nothing, apparently. There must already be the air of a strong competitor before money is released...then it seems it's showered. We're talking billions of dollars at the ready.
And I hate it.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)Shameful.
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)Beacool
(30,247 posts)Christie went on to explain how he'd convinced the state's Democratic majority leaders, against the wishes of most of their caucus, to help him slash public-sector pensions and benefits. And he drew a bead on his next major target: public-school teachers and their union. "That's where we head next," Christie said. "We need to take on the teachers' union once and for all, and we need to decide who is determining our children's future, who is running this place. Them or us? I say it's us."
He presented his accomplishments in New Jersey as a model for curing the nation's ills: "We know the answers. They're painful answers. We're going to have to reduce Medicare benefits. We're going to have to reduce Medicaid benefits. We're going to have to raise the Social Security age. We're going to have to do these things. We're going to have to cut all types of other government programs that some people in this room might like."
Democrats better watch out if this guy somehow manages to get the nomination. He pretends to be a "moderate", but he's as RW as a Tea Party denizen.
dionysus
(26,467 posts)you need to relax... grab a bankie and mix yourself a good strong cocktail. doctors orders.
Beacool
(30,247 posts)Bankie and a drink sound like a good mix.
dionysus
(26,467 posts)Beacool
(30,247 posts)Just the mantel and a heater.
dionysus
(26,467 posts)in the wintertime
Beacool
(30,247 posts)CTyankee
(63,889 posts)I wanna see him get u p on national TV and say those words about cutting Medicare, Medicaid and raising the age for SS! I wanna see him do it in front of EVERYONE, not just the Koch-suckers!
I'm waiting for his whole schtick to just disintegrate, before a live audience...