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hue

(4,949 posts)
Sun Nov 10, 2013, 12:28 PM Nov 2013

Audio: Chris Christie Lets Loose at Secret Koch Brothers Confab

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/09/audio-chris-christie-koch-brothers-seminar

In our exclusive recordings, David Koch introduces the New Jersey governor as "my kind of guy" and "a true political hero."


Click for Part 1 of this two-part series: "Exclusive Audio: Inside The Koch Brothers Secret Seminar

Also read Gavin Aronsen's breakdown of top Koch donors: "Exclusive: The Koch Brothers' Million-Dollar Donor Club"

On the morning of June 26, Chris Christie, New Jersey's flamboyant, tough-talking Republican governor, appeared on NBC's Meet The Press. He then jetted out to Colorado, delivered a keynote speech at Charles and David Koch's ultra-exclusive seminar at the Ritz-Carlton resort near Vail, and returned home the same night, all without breathing a word about his adventure to his constituents.

In Part 1 of this report, we gave you the inside scoop on the Kochs' top-secret strategy meeting, where hundreds of wealthy patrons were urged to open their wallets for what Charles Koch described as "the mother of all wars"—the effort to unseat President Obama. We also told you we'd obtained exclusive audio recordings from the event. And we promised to reveal the identity of the main keynote speaker.

With security extraordinary on the seminar's opening night—audio speakers around the periphery of the outdoor dining pavilion blasted out static to thwart eavesdroppers—David Koch introduced Gov. Christie as "my kind of guy." (The two had previously met in private at Koch's New York City office, he revealed.) Before long, seminar attendees were roaring with laughter as Christie regaled them over dessert, telling them how, in his first weeks in office, he'd exercised extraordinary executive powers to impound billions of dollars in planned spending. ("The good news for all of you and for me," he said, "is that the governorship in New Jersey is the most powerful constitutional governorship in America.&quot
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Audio: Chris Christie Lets Loose at Secret Koch Brothers Confab (Original Post) hue Nov 2013 OP
Drip,drip brucefan Nov 2013 #1
Wow! notadmblnd Nov 2013 #2
I hate Christie, pretty simple weissmam Nov 2013 #5
Christie sounds like a wonderful human being. Enthusiast Nov 2013 #10
I can't believe New Jersy fell for the okie dokie but Heather MC Nov 2013 #11
I sure hope we can destroy him. Enthusiast Nov 2013 #12
I can't stand any of them, I am everything they hate Heather MC Nov 2013 #13
Exactly. Enthusiast Nov 2013 #17
Ha good luck with that Heather MC Nov 2013 #18
The irony is that people like Koch's and Christie do think that they are humam beings notadmblnd Nov 2013 #14
Should have saved this for October 2016 Doctor_J Nov 2013 #3
I still think there is plenty more to come out on Christie davidpdx Nov 2013 #35
If he was POTUS, he couldn't swear to defend the Constitution. His allegiance is to the Koches. freshwest Nov 2013 #4
This explains a lot. zeemike Nov 2013 #6
Some don't want to lose their Seat at the Teat. PeoViejo Nov 2013 #8
Yep...and welcome to DU zeemike Nov 2013 #16
Thank You. PeoViejo Nov 2013 #21
Oh sick! The Kochs have a place in Colorado? Yuck! gtar100 Nov 2013 #7
1 of the Koch bros. (William) is building a "Wild West" town in Colorado. here's the link: hue Nov 2013 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author stillwaiting Nov 2013 #22
OH great DonCoquixote Nov 2013 #24
Just Like Marie Antoinette otohara Nov 2013 #26
Koch's play both sides of the game, ErikJ Nov 2013 #9
This is true. It's why no matter how a candidate positions, the results will be either Center Left libdem4life Nov 2013 #19
He says he used the state's Dem leaders for his agenda. madfloridian Nov 2013 #15
HE IS FUCKED on his desire to cut SS and Medicare. Totally FUCKED. RBInMaine Nov 2013 #23
I can't STAND the SOB!!!!! Beacool Nov 2013 #25
calm down Bea! you'll make youself sick! dionysus Nov 2013 #27
I'll try!!! Beacool Nov 2013 #28
and a fire if you have a fireplace dionysus Nov 2013 #29
Nope, no working fireplace. Beacool Nov 2013 #32
we need to get you one of those natural gas fireplace inserts, goes so well with bankie and a drink. dionysus Nov 2013 #33
That would be nice............... Beacool Nov 2013 #34
Christie makes people sick! CTyankee Nov 2013 #30
oh, he'll implode like the hindenburgh, it's all a matter of when. dionysus Nov 2013 #31
Wasn't that precious? freshwest Jun 2014 #36

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
2. Wow!
Sun Nov 10, 2013, 12:55 PM
Nov 2013

more from the article:

In one instance, Christie cut a fellowship program run by a Rutgers University professor who had served as a referee in the state's contentious redistricting fight. He also "mowed down a series of Democratic add-ons, including $45 million in tax credits for the working poor, $9 million in health care for the working poor, $8 million for women's health care, another $8 million in AIDS funding and $9 million in mental-health services," wrote Star-Ledger columnist Tom Moran. "But the governor added $150 million in school aid for the suburbs, including the wealthiest towns in the state. That is enough to restore all the cuts just listed."

In response, Sweeney went nuclear on Christie, claiming he "wanted to punch him in his head" and comparing the governor to "Mr. Potter from 'It's a Wonderful Life,' the mean old bastard who screws everybody," according to the paper. "Don't be vindictive and punish innocent people," he ranted. "These people didn't do anything to him. It's like a bank robber taking hostages. And now he's starting to shoot people." For good measure he called Christie "a cruel man," "mean-spirited," and "a rotten prick."

snip:

During the Q&A, one of the questioners wondered what Christie had learned in New Jersey that might be applied to the nation. His answer was direct: "This is not hard. We spend too much. We borrow too much. We tax too much. It is time to turn those three things around."

"Now, pain will be inflicted when we change that," he went on. "People are going to do with less. People who are used to having entitlement at a certain level will not have them at that level anymore. That's the story." Christie cited Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan's "courageous" and "thoughtful plan" to "fix those systems" by replacing Medicare with a voucher program.

 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
11. I can't believe New Jersy fell for the okie dokie but
Sun Nov 10, 2013, 02:54 PM
Nov 2013

If he is the Republicans first pick for the General Election Good, We already have enough to destroy him

 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
13. I can't stand any of them, I am everything they hate
Sun Nov 10, 2013, 03:02 PM
Nov 2013

Black
Female
Liberal
Pro Choice/ Life <--- We are taking that from them
My hubby is a teacher
I have 4 valid ID's
And
I VOTE

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
17. Exactly.
Sun Nov 10, 2013, 03:10 PM
Nov 2013

It would be bad enough if you were just black or female but you're also a liberal. And your husband is a teacher! And you are pro-choice. They must find a way to prevent you from voting!

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
14. The irony is that people like Koch's and Christie do think that they are humam beings
Sun Nov 10, 2013, 03:07 PM
Nov 2013

and those that struggle to make their way honestly are the ones that are lacking souls and equate them with being subhuman.

I can't help but think that history is repeating its self except this time the political group isn't conspiring in a beer hall.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
35. I still think there is plenty more to come out on Christie
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 12:12 AM
Nov 2013

Anyone that thinks this guy has been thoroughly vetted should think again.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
4. If he was POTUS, he couldn't swear to defend the Constitution. His allegiance is to the Koches.
Sun Nov 10, 2013, 01:24 PM
Nov 2013

The 'Kingdom Coming' will be Koch controlled. They are close, very close.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
6. This explains a lot.
Sun Nov 10, 2013, 01:57 PM
Nov 2013

As to why Democrats support him and not his oponent...the don't want the wrath of the Koch money to come down on them.
Just as you had better bow to the king three times before you approach him if you want to keep your head.

gtar100

(4,192 posts)
7. Oh sick! The Kochs have a place in Colorado? Yuck!
Sun Nov 10, 2013, 02:00 PM
Nov 2013

I'm sure they love its beauty but they defile the place simply by their presence. Its what they do to every place they go to. Greedy assholes that they are.

hue

(4,949 posts)
20. 1 of the Koch bros. (William) is building a "Wild West" town in Colorado. here's the link:
Sun Nov 10, 2013, 03:22 PM
Nov 2013

Besides the WW town they have a huge compound in CO.

http://realestate.aol.com/blog/2012/08/23/billionaire-bill-koch-builds-his-own-wild-west-town-on-his-color/

The Wild West isn't gone -- in fact, it's re-emerging in Colorado.

Billionaire Bill Koch is building an entire Wild West town (pictured above) on his 6,400-acre Bear Ranch in Gunnison County, Colo., the Denver Post reported. It has 50 buildings, which include a saloon, a jail, a church and a train station.

But Old West enthusiasts shouldn't expect to visit Koch's private, unpopulated town: It's for his amusement only and reportedly will not be open to the public.

another link with a map:

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-08-30/welcome-to-kochtown-population-1

Response to hue (Reply #20)

 

otohara

(24,135 posts)
26. Just Like Marie Antoinette
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 03:05 PM
Nov 2013

The Petit Hameau (The Little Hamlet), or "Le Hameau de la Reine,” was situated in the English-style gardens of the Petit Trianon. Created in 1783, the Petit Hameau was a mock farm area, complete with farmhouse, dairy, and poultry yard – all areas traditionally associated with women.

When visiting this ersatz farm, Marie Antoinette and her attendants would dress as shepherdesses, and play at milking the cows and tending other docile animals. The farmhouse interior was more opulent, featuring all of the luxuries expected by the Queen and her ladies.

The Petit Hameau was part of the landscape of the "natural" English garden, but it was also a reflection of France's cultural values on the eve of the Revolution. This artificial nature retreat mirrored the moral values associated with natural simplicity and virtuehttp://www.pbs.org/marieantoinette/life/hameau.html

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
9. Koch's play both sides of the game,
Sun Nov 10, 2013, 02:12 PM
Nov 2013

They push the extremists to move the political spectrum to the right while also supporting the more electable centrists.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
19. This is true. It's why no matter how a candidate positions, the results will be either Center Left
Sun Nov 10, 2013, 03:19 PM
Nov 2013

or Center Right. That's what the two-party system demands. No one of the outer "fringes" can get elected, they can, however somewhat influence the Platform Policy.

So those who don't want the Democrats to receive corporate money and think it's too early to start courting voters and donors, will hopefully rethink. Christie is already there. Bush just needs to make some phone calls and show up with his Hispanic wife down the road. The others are irrelevant.

Corey Booker got 90% of the money donated...saw a tally. Barbara Buono got next to nothing, apparently. There must already be the air of a strong competitor before money is released...then it seems it's showered. We're talking billions of dollars at the ready.

And I hate it.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
15. He says he used the state's Dem leaders for his agenda.
Sun Nov 10, 2013, 03:07 PM
Nov 2013
"Christie went on to explain how he'd convinced the state's Democratic majority leaders, against the wishes of most of their caucus, to help him slash public-sector pensions and benefits. And he drew a bead on his next major target: public-school teachers and their union. "That's where we head next," Christie said. "We need to take on the teachers' union once and for all, and we need to decide who is determining our children's future, who is running this place. Them or us? I say it's us."

Shameful.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
25. I can't STAND the SOB!!!!!
Sun Nov 10, 2013, 10:45 PM
Nov 2013

Christie went on to explain how he'd convinced the state's Democratic majority leaders, against the wishes of most of their caucus, to help him slash public-sector pensions and benefits. And he drew a bead on his next major target: public-school teachers and their union. "That's where we head next," Christie said. "We need to take on the teachers' union once and for all, and we need to decide who is determining our children's future, who is running this place. Them or us? I say it's us."

He presented his accomplishments in New Jersey as a model for curing the nation's ills: "We know the answers. They're painful answers. We're going to have to reduce Medicare benefits. We're going to have to reduce Medicaid benefits. We're going to have to raise the Social Security age. We're going to have to do these things. We're going to have to cut all types of other government programs that some people in this room might like."



Democrats better watch out if this guy somehow manages to get the nomination. He pretends to be a "moderate", but he's as RW as a Tea Party denizen.

dionysus

(26,467 posts)
27. calm down Bea! you'll make youself sick!
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 03:23 PM
Nov 2013

you need to relax... grab a bankie and mix yourself a good strong cocktail. doctors orders.

dionysus

(26,467 posts)
33. we need to get you one of those natural gas fireplace inserts, goes so well with bankie and a drink.
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 06:52 PM
Nov 2013

in the wintertime

CTyankee

(63,889 posts)
30. Christie makes people sick!
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 05:28 PM
Nov 2013

I wanna see him get u p on national TV and say those words about cutting Medicare, Medicaid and raising the age for SS! I wanna see him do it in front of EVERYONE, not just the Koch-suckers!

I'm waiting for his whole schtick to just disintegrate, before a live audience...

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