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Beacool

(30,247 posts)
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 12:44 AM Nov 2013

Don’t Believe the Chris Christie Hype—Look at His Economic Record

by Dean Obeidallah
Nov 11, 2013

In 2016, the New Jersey governor won’t be running against an unknown, underfunded opponent—but a GOP primary field keen to pounce on his economic failings.

Chris Christie’s greatest obstacle to becoming president of the United States is neither his weight nor his conservative credentials. It’s his crappy economic record as governor of New Jersey.
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It won’t take a person in a white lab coat to uncover Christie’s failings, however. They’re easy to spot. Here are just a few of his economic record’s lowlights, which his opponents are sure to broadcast:

Unemployment: New Jersey’s unemployment rate is 8.5 percent, considerably higher than the national rate of 7.3 percent, making the state 41st in the nation.

Job creation: New Jersey ranks 44th in job growth during Christie’s governorship.

Credit rating: Three major credit agencies have cut the state’s credit rating since Christie became governor, making it costlier to borrow money.

Economic growth: In 2011, New Jersey was just one of seven U.S. states whose economy shrank. The state ranked 47th in terms of GDP growth.

Taxes: New Jersey is tied for 50th in the Tax Foundation’s annual report, which ranks which states have the most business-friendly (translation: lowest) taxes. Plus, the tax burden grew by 18.6 percent for the average family under Christie.

Home prices and foreclosures: Mortgage delinquencies have increased 2.8 percent since Christie took over, the highest of any state in the nation. Plus, home prices are down 6.7 percent in that time, putting New Jersey in the bottom quarter of all states.

Poverty: Although this statistic may not resonate with Republican primary voters, the poverty rate in New Jersey has reached a 52-year high, with 24.7 percent of the state below the poverty level.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/11/11/don-t-believe-the-chris-christie-hype-look-at-his-economic-record.html

I'm bookmarking this article in the off chance that Christie becomes the GOP nominee.

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Don’t Believe the Chris Christie Hype—Look at His Economic Record (Original Post) Beacool Nov 2013 OP
hmmm, interesting... Whisp Nov 2013 #1
How are things in Canada? Beacool Nov 2013 #2
I have many interests. The whole world has interest in the next President Whisp Nov 2013 #3
I'm not super confident that such facts weigh enough in the current media environment TheKentuckian Nov 2013 #4
Christie brags about getting things done. Beacool Nov 2013 #5
The reason he is hyped DonCoquixote Nov 2013 #12
Thanks for the facts.. Good stuff. busterbrown Nov 2013 #6
You're welcome. Beacool Nov 2013 #9
The hype seems to be focused on his waistline. Deep13 Nov 2013 #7
It's a question of style, not substance. Beacool Nov 2013 #11
This is what bothers me the most. Bush, Jr. used to make this same pronouncement. In reality... Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2013 #19
Christie is in some respects like Limbaugh. Beacool Nov 2013 #21
Some moderate RINO he is... Jamaal510 Nov 2013 #8
Even Atlantic City isn't making the money it used to and I blame Christie for it. nt TeamPooka Nov 2013 #10
Yes, AC is not making the same profits as it used to. Beacool Nov 2013 #22
PDF or MS Office Image it IkeRepublican Nov 2013 #13
Thanks, good advice. Beacool Nov 2013 #18
Chris Christie has the exact same chance of becoming president that Rudy Giuliani had... PBass Nov 2013 #14
Christie's main disadvantage is that the backwash is coalescing around Ted Cruz nxylas Nov 2013 #16
It will depend on whether the T.P. bunch eviscerate each other. Beacool Nov 2013 #24
Two larger points: Christie loses to Hillary in a head to head match up according to Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2013 #15
Yes, he probably would lose NJ to Hillary. Beacool Nov 2013 #23
Exit polls clearly showed that he would get stomped by Hillary. End of story. No contest. Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2013 #25
Christie won't make it to the primaries, although that would be too bad. Frustratedlady Nov 2013 #17
The comment that the Repubs are a regional party is right on. Thus far, the Dems are more Left libdem4life Nov 2013 #20
 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
3. I have many interests. The whole world has interest in the next President
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 01:09 AM
Nov 2013

for all sorts of good reasons.

You're not going to go Freedom Fries on me, are ya? Or would that be Freedom Poutine?

TheKentuckian

(25,023 posts)
4. I'm not super confident that such facts weigh enough in the current media environment
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 01:32 AM
Nov 2013

and make up of the electorate.

Not just about Christy but any candidate that is arguably sane and is supported by the big money.

If you're saying Big Money will see the track record and pan the Kingpin then that is an important perspective.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
5. Christie brags about getting things done.
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 01:37 AM
Nov 2013

Well, things are not that great in NJ. If he starts to extol his record, he can be confronted with the facts.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
12. The reason he is hyped
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 02:57 AM
Nov 2013

Is because he is the one red stain in an area that was always Blue (even if it was heavy Blue dog).

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
6. Thanks for the facts.. Good stuff.
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 01:39 AM
Nov 2013

Fact of the matter the slob will make up his own facts about state of economic affairs and just keep repeating the lies
until the media accepts them as accurate.

Just look at that other slob Walker....Never hear a peep from MSM when he flings shit..

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
9. You're welcome.
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 02:40 AM
Nov 2013

These are the facts that need to be pounded and repeated if he does run for president. Christie is a windbag with few actual accomplishments during his years in office.

Deep13

(39,154 posts)
7. The hype seems to be focused on his waistline.
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 01:49 AM
Nov 2013

And yeah, he's a right-wing hack even if Rick Perry makes him look reasonable by comparison.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
11. It's a question of style, not substance.
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 02:42 AM
Nov 2013

He portrays himself as someone who can work with Democrats, when in reality he bullies people to get his way and is as conservative as the rest of the GOP. I think that the guy is a jerk.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
19. This is what bothers me the most. Bush, Jr. used to make this same pronouncement. In reality...
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 12:33 PM
Nov 2013

(a) because the Texas constitution grants governors very weak executive powers, he was forced to work with the overwhelmingly Democratic legislature and compromise. It was not because he wanted to; it was because he had no choice! He HAD to!

(b) because his Lt. Gov. at the time was a Democrat; again, complicating his constitutional authority to do what he wanted. He was forced to cooperate with the Democrats, not because he wanted to, but because he HAD to!

(c) because in divided government, it is necessary to bargain and negotiate, often giving up something and getting something else in return. As we learned from Barbara Buono, this is what the NJ Democrats did--they bargained with Christie because they had to.

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Christie finds himself in a similar position. So, this notion that he's a moderate and that he's so bipartisan who works willingly with the Democratic-dominated legislature is absolute BULLSHIT! You know it. I know it. And I am convinced that the Corporate Media up there in Jersey (including the Star Ledger) and the NYTimes, and so on, also know it!

I just wish more Jersey voters knew it. And for godssakes, I wish the Corporate Media would report the truth rather than lies.

Christie is going to run on these lies! Lies that he is a compromiser and that he is not wedded to some corporate, conservative ideology. It's all bullshit! All of it! We have to start educating people now.

Thanks for this thread. Very helpful reference that I can grab when needed.

Kicked and bookmarked.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
21. Christie is in some respects like Limbaugh.
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 09:20 PM
Nov 2013

They are both blowhards who think that they're smarter than those around them. They also have the habit of being insulting and browbeating those who disagree with them. I can't stand either one.

Yes, he's going to run on lies that he is a moderate and can get things done by reaching out to Democrats. It's all a load of manure.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
22. Yes, AC is not making the same profits as it used to.
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 09:22 PM
Nov 2013

Which I normally wouldn't care, but hundreds of people's livelihood depends on casino jobs.

PBass

(1,537 posts)
14. Chris Christie has the exact same chance of becoming president that Rudy Giuliani had...
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 03:30 AM
Nov 2013

in other words, ZERO.

The GOP is a regional party now (the South) and an East Coast "moderate" is not gonna fire up the GOP base. An unmotivated base spells certain doom.

Besides that, Christie won't possibly survive the GOP primaries. Look at his record - he simply cannot pass the GOP's Purity Test. He's mostly just a loudmouth (as mentioned) but he's occasionally a moderate on certain issues (a cardinal sin with today's Wingnuts). The other candidates will rip him to shreds, accordingly. Even if he miraculously wins the nomination, by the time that's settled he will be so damaged that he'll lose the general election in a most spectacular, hilarious way.

i'd be glad to see him as the GOP nominee, in fact I might even send him a couple bucks just to encourage him

I think 2016 is gonna be just as exciting and fun for our side as 2008 was. We have the first black president and next, we're gonna have the first woman president (no matter who she is). Lets not start talking about 2024 yet - it's too early

nxylas

(6,440 posts)
16. Christie's main disadvantage is that the backwash is coalescing around Ted Cruz
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 06:46 AM
Nov 2013

(Apologies for that image)

Romney and McCain only got past the primary stage because the far right couldn't unite around a single candidate, and the Tea Party candidates ended up cancelling each other out. However, Cruz seems to be the new Palin in terms of bagger adoration. A brief visit to Free Republic (I try not to hang around there too long) reveals that they see even Rand Paul (Cruz's only real competitor) as just another RINO.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
24. It will depend on whether the T.P. bunch eviscerate each other.
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 09:27 PM
Nov 2013

In 2012, the various T.P. destroyed each other and the "sane" candidate won. If nxylas is correct and they coalesce their support on one guy (Cruz, for example), that would leave Christie out of the equation.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
15. Two larger points: Christie loses to Hillary in a head to head match up according to
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 05:12 AM
Nov 2013

exit polls taken last week after the election, and (2) Christie won based on pretending to be moderate: accepting federal dollars for Sandy relief, opposing government shutdown, expanding Medicaid, not pursuing anti-gay marriage rebuttal in the courts. NJ Democrats sold their souls to Christie and made a deal with him. Fucking cowards!!!

He loses his own state to ANY Democratic nominee in the running and gets his ass handed to him by Hillary especially!!!!

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
23. Yes, he probably would lose NJ to Hillary.
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 09:24 PM
Nov 2013

Hudson County is the most populated county in the state and it's strong Democratic (Buono won it last week).

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
17. Christie won't make it to the primaries, although that would be too bad.
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 07:15 AM
Nov 2013

He'd add a little humor to a boring display of candidates.

He'll burn out before then. His sense of humor gets old and bullies are finally being looked down upon by society. He thinks he's cute (as does his wife, apparently) when he bullies women, but he'll learn how wrong he is.

Christie is a novelty...a throw-away toy.



 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
20. The comment that the Repubs are a regional party is right on. Thus far, the Dems are more Left
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 07:36 PM
Nov 2013

Right axis with not quite the defensive brick walls set up...hopefully. The Big Tent has come through before...I predict it will again.

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