2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumDon’t Believe the Chris Christie Hype—Look at His Economic Record
by Dean Obeidallah
Nov 11, 2013
In 2016, the New Jersey governor wont be running against an unknown, underfunded opponentbut a GOP primary field keen to pounce on his economic failings.
Chris Christies greatest obstacle to becoming president of the United States is neither his weight nor his conservative credentials. Its his crappy economic record as governor of New Jersey.
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It wont take a person in a white lab coat to uncover Christies failings, however. Theyre easy to spot. Here are just a few of his economic records lowlights, which his opponents are sure to broadcast:
Unemployment: New Jerseys unemployment rate is 8.5 percent, considerably higher than the national rate of 7.3 percent, making the state 41st in the nation.
Job creation: New Jersey ranks 44th in job growth during Christies governorship.
Credit rating: Three major credit agencies have cut the states credit rating since Christie became governor, making it costlier to borrow money.
Economic growth: In 2011, New Jersey was just one of seven U.S. states whose economy shrank. The state ranked 47th in terms of GDP growth.
Taxes: New Jersey is tied for 50th in the Tax Foundations annual report, which ranks which states have the most business-friendly (translation: lowest) taxes. Plus, the tax burden grew by 18.6 percent for the average family under Christie.
Home prices and foreclosures: Mortgage delinquencies have increased 2.8 percent since Christie took over, the highest of any state in the nation. Plus, home prices are down 6.7 percent in that time, putting New Jersey in the bottom quarter of all states.
Poverty: Although this statistic may not resonate with Republican primary voters, the poverty rate in New Jersey has reached a 52-year high, with 24.7 percent of the state below the poverty level.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/11/11/don-t-believe-the-chris-christie-hype-look-at-his-economic-record.html
I'm bookmarking this article in the off chance that Christie becomes the GOP nominee.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)lemme get my angle figuring device out, cuz I know you got one.
Beacool
(30,247 posts)Nice to see how interested you are in my state's politics.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)for all sorts of good reasons.
You're not going to go Freedom Fries on me, are ya? Or would that be Freedom Poutine?
TheKentuckian
(25,023 posts)and make up of the electorate.
Not just about Christy but any candidate that is arguably sane and is supported by the big money.
If you're saying Big Money will see the track record and pan the Kingpin then that is an important perspective.
Beacool
(30,247 posts)Well, things are not that great in NJ. If he starts to extol his record, he can be confronted with the facts.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)Is because he is the one red stain in an area that was always Blue (even if it was heavy Blue dog).
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)Fact of the matter the slob will make up his own facts about state of economic affairs and just keep repeating the lies
until the media accepts them as accurate.
Just look at that other slob Walker....Never hear a peep from MSM when he flings shit..
Beacool
(30,247 posts)These are the facts that need to be pounded and repeated if he does run for president. Christie is a windbag with few actual accomplishments during his years in office.
Deep13
(39,154 posts)And yeah, he's a right-wing hack even if Rick Perry makes him look reasonable by comparison.
Beacool
(30,247 posts)He portrays himself as someone who can work with Democrats, when in reality he bullies people to get his way and is as conservative as the rest of the GOP. I think that the guy is a jerk.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)(a) because the Texas constitution grants governors very weak executive powers, he was forced to work with the overwhelmingly Democratic legislature and compromise. It was not because he wanted to; it was because he had no choice! He HAD to!
(b) because his Lt. Gov. at the time was a Democrat; again, complicating his constitutional authority to do what he wanted. He was forced to cooperate with the Democrats, not because he wanted to, but because he HAD to!
(c) because in divided government, it is necessary to bargain and negotiate, often giving up something and getting something else in return. As we learned from Barbara Buono, this is what the NJ Democrats did--they bargained with Christie because they had to.
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Christie finds himself in a similar position. So, this notion that he's a moderate and that he's so bipartisan who works willingly with the Democratic-dominated legislature is absolute BULLSHIT! You know it. I know it. And I am convinced that the Corporate Media up there in Jersey (including the Star Ledger) and the NYTimes, and so on, also know it!
I just wish more Jersey voters knew it. And for godssakes, I wish the Corporate Media would report the truth rather than lies.
Christie is going to run on these lies! Lies that he is a compromiser and that he is not wedded to some corporate, conservative ideology. It's all bullshit! All of it! We have to start educating people now.
Thanks for this thread. Very helpful reference that I can grab when needed.
Kicked and bookmarked.
Beacool
(30,247 posts)They are both blowhards who think that they're smarter than those around them. They also have the habit of being insulting and browbeating those who disagree with them. I can't stand either one.
Yes, he's going to run on lies that he is a moderate and can get things done by reaching out to Democrats. It's all a load of manure.
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)TeamPooka
(24,220 posts)Beacool
(30,247 posts)Which I normally wouldn't care, but hundreds of people's livelihood depends on casino jobs.
IkeRepublican
(406 posts)Sites have a tendency to remove pages after a year.
Beacool
(30,247 posts)PBass
(1,537 posts)in other words, ZERO.
The GOP is a regional party now (the South) and an East Coast "moderate" is not gonna fire up the GOP base. An unmotivated base spells certain doom.
Besides that, Christie won't possibly survive the GOP primaries. Look at his record - he simply cannot pass the GOP's Purity Test. He's mostly just a loudmouth (as mentioned) but he's occasionally a moderate on certain issues (a cardinal sin with today's Wingnuts). The other candidates will rip him to shreds, accordingly. Even if he miraculously wins the nomination, by the time that's settled he will be so damaged that he'll lose the general election in a most spectacular, hilarious way.
i'd be glad to see him as the GOP nominee, in fact I might even send him a couple bucks just to encourage him
I think 2016 is gonna be just as exciting and fun for our side as 2008 was. We have the first black president and next, we're gonna have the first woman president (no matter who she is). Lets not start talking about 2024 yet - it's too early
nxylas
(6,440 posts)(Apologies for that image)
Romney and McCain only got past the primary stage because the far right couldn't unite around a single candidate, and the Tea Party candidates ended up cancelling each other out. However, Cruz seems to be the new Palin in terms of bagger adoration. A brief visit to Free Republic (I try not to hang around there too long) reveals that they see even Rand Paul (Cruz's only real competitor) as just another RINO.
Beacool
(30,247 posts)In 2012, the various T.P. destroyed each other and the "sane" candidate won. If nxylas is correct and they coalesce their support on one guy (Cruz, for example), that would leave Christie out of the equation.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)exit polls taken last week after the election, and (2) Christie won based on pretending to be moderate: accepting federal dollars for Sandy relief, opposing government shutdown, expanding Medicaid, not pursuing anti-gay marriage rebuttal in the courts. NJ Democrats sold their souls to Christie and made a deal with him. Fucking cowards!!!
He loses his own state to ANY Democratic nominee in the running and gets his ass handed to him by Hillary especially!!!!
Beacool
(30,247 posts)Hudson County is the most populated county in the state and it's strong Democratic (Buono won it last week).
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)Frustratedlady
(16,254 posts)He'd add a little humor to a boring display of candidates.
He'll burn out before then. His sense of humor gets old and bullies are finally being looked down upon by society. He thinks he's cute (as does his wife, apparently) when he bullies women, but he'll learn how wrong he is.
Christie is a novelty...a throw-away toy.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)Right axis with not quite the defensive brick walls set up...hopefully. The Big Tent has come through before...I predict it will again.