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Gamechanger: Inside the Historic Iran Nuclear DealBy Christopher DickeyNovember 24th 20138:19 AM
Once again the Obama administration pulls the United States away from the path to war, but thats not the same as peace.
Forget apocalypse now for now. The diplomatic agreement Iran reached in the wee hours of Sunday morning with the United States, Britain, Russia, China, Germany and France (yes, even reluctant France) stops Tehrans rush toward the potential production of nuclear weapons. It makes it difficultif not impossiblefor Israel to start a war to try to eliminate that threat, and in return, it offers only very modest relief from the draconian sanctions crippling the Iranian economy.
If Americans are paying attention, they should be happy. Hell, they should break out the bubbly! A Washington Post-ABC News poll last week described a deal with Iran precisely like the one just agreed, and more than twice as many people (64 percent) supported it as opposed it (30 percent), even though two-thirds said they were not confident an agreement would stop Iran from developing nuclear weapons.
But if Secretary of State John Kerrys tone of triumph was a little muted in the dark hours before dawn Sunday morning, it was because he knew we have a long way to go in the worlds most treacherous regions with some of the worlds most treacherous powers before we see genuinely positive results from this diplomatic initiative.
"If this first step leads to what is our ultimate goalwhich is a comprehensive agreementthat will make the world safer, Kerry told the bleary-eyed press corps.
The revelations that secret U.S.-Iran negotiations over many months preceded this deal, according to the Associated Press, and quiet easing of some sanctions already had taken place, as reported by Eli Lake in The Daily Beast, will not reassure Israel and Saudi Arabia. The two nations have been, for many decades, Americas closest and most vital allies in the Middle East, and they werent consulted about the secret talkswhich is to say, they werent trusted.
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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/11/24/gamechager-inside-the-historic-iran-nuclear-deal.html
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Once again the Obama administration pulls the US away from the path to war... (Original Post)
DonViejo
Nov 2013
OP
Just read a great article that is long, but cogent about the relevant history to this event
libdem4life
Nov 2013
#6
And yet a poll came out this morning saying most Americans don't think he's a leader
bigdarryl
Nov 2013
#7
cilla4progress
(24,725 posts)1. Reminiscent
of JFK and Cuba.
Well-timed...
polichick
(37,152 posts)2. And the mic's not going to be happy this time either.
cilla4progress
(24,725 posts)3. ???
polichick
(37,152 posts)4. The mic - military industrial complex...
doesn't like to miss out on war profits.
cilla4progress
(24,725 posts)5. Oh...
got it!
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)6. Just read a great article that is long, but cogent about the relevant history to this event
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history-archaeology/Power-and-the-Presidency-From-Kennedy-to-Obama.html
It's worth the read, but even just for the photo of JFK and RFK ... almost brought me to tears.
It's worth the read, but even just for the photo of JFK and RFK ... almost brought me to tears.
bigdarryl
(13,190 posts)7. And yet a poll came out this morning saying most Americans don't think he's a leader
I think a lot of this is the fact that for whatever reason the news media and press had decided to go ALL OUT negative on the President no matter what he does.
Avalux
(35,015 posts)8. Peace is boring and doesn't get the ratings that bombing campaign do.
And yes, Obama. Whatever he does it's his fault, even if it's a good thing.