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busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
Sun May 25, 2014, 04:04 PM May 2014

It’s too late for the the Republicans....They are fucked!!

Last edited Sun May 25, 2014, 04:59 PM - Edit history (2)

The racist train is about to fall off the tracks...For 6 yrs. they have been able to gather political support (winning elections) by using race as an issue to win political support. The hatred is so intense in parts of the country (South and Midwest) that millions of Obama Haters have voted against their own interests...Minimum Wage, ACA, Unemployment extension, Infrastructure development in their own states..etc..etc.. It has gone so far beyond the realm of insanity that these people prefer Putin over Obama...

Here’s the problem for these guys... This racist bullshit political agenda has become so entrenched in Republican Doctrine that the party has no chance of of pivoting away from the this insanity.. Even though Obama is not running again. And that in short is why they are permanently screwed.

Now!!!! I have just paraphrased my post from this terrific piece I found on the Daily Kos this a.m.
It really rang some bells in my head and thought I could draw some interest towards it.. It is much more complete and detailed and wonderfully put together..


From Daily Kos:BY JCW Politics.. Why Joe Scarborough is a SHITHEAD....

"I must say, I have been behind closed doors with thousands of conservatives through the years. I have never once heard one of them say in the deep south or in the northeast or in South Boston, 'Boy, I really hate Obamacare because that black president' -- no, I've never heard anybody come close to saying that,"

Scarborough said on MSNBC's "Morning Joe." "And I have spoken to some wildly right wing groups. I have never heard it once." This is how Joe Scarborough addressed the Senator Jay (obviously not Nelson Thanks for the heads up) Rockefeller (D- WV) slam of Ron Johnson (R-WI) from last week. I could go on for about three thousand words on why Joe is full of shit but it is a holiday weekend and I will spare everyone the full Monty.

Question: Which issues HAVE you heard right wing groups say they were pursuing because of race Joe?

The reason I ask that question to start with is that we have two very simple, easy to understand, clear examples of the GOP racializing the President. Simple things that everyone agrees are about race. Birtherism, and Voter ID. But, and this is why I want someone to either be on Morning Joe with some sense, or other journos to step in here and ask Scarborough the obvious question. "Have you heard Rs talk about race and Birtherism, Impeachment, Muslimism (where the GOP refuses to believe Obama is a Christian even while concomitantly attacking him for Rev. Wright), if Joe has knowledge of right wing groups attacking and making policy decisions based on Race, he has an obligation to share those with us. Until he is willing to, definitively say he has never heard a right wing group talk about race and policy on any issue, or clarifying which issues on which they do talk about Race, pardon me if I call bullshit on his white guy vouch for GOP extremists.

Jay Rockefeller is completely right and Joe knows it. The reason he and other Rs are scrambling is that the wheels are coming off the race hating train. President Obama isn't up for re-election, and the GOP defending its insane and inane policy decisions by saying, "Obama is black," no longer works as well, except in the deepest of deep red pockets in the country.

What is happening is you have people like Mitch McConnell having to respond, on the week he won the nomination in KY, to Allyson Grimes' attacks about ObamaCare. This week Mitch said that his repeal plan for ObamaCare wouldn't strip the 400,000 Kentucky residents who have Kynect, the KY version of OCare, of their health coverage.

The point is that ObamaCare is working. ObamaCare is a conservative remedy. ObamaCare has metrics, positive results, and is a complete win. In politics, when one side is going to win on an issue the minority or opposition, jumps in and tries to claim some of the win. Look at the Stimulus Bill from 2009. GOP voted against it in the House. I think there was one R congressman who voted yes. Nevertheless, all Rs claimed credit for the bill. They went to their districts, stood at ribbon cuttings and groundbreakings, went to hiring halls, and took credit. Why? Because the bill was working and was clearly going to work. Oh, there was politics involved; the GOP claimed the bill itself was a failure. Look at the Auto Bailout as another example. Mitt Romney was against it, when it worked he was for it.

Why is ObamaCare the only legislation in modern history that even when it is working the GOP is 100% against it? There is no political reason for this. The bill is going to be wildly popular. Everyone knows it. Everyone who works in politics has known the bill was going to be popular if it went into effect for 5 years. So, why in the name of all that is holy, has the GOP refused to do the political thing and pivot on ObamaCare?

Because it isn't politics. At least not in the traditional sense. It isn't logic either. It certainly isn't principle. Look at Mitch McConnell's statement this week. He won't take Kynect from anyone in KY. Therefore, it isn't a principled objection to the health coverage. If it isn't Principle, Politics, or Logic. What is this opposition to ObamaCare?

There is only one thing left. There is only one thing that prevents the GOP from behaving like a political party. It stopped infrastructure investment, Unemployment Insurance extensions, Payroll Tax Holiday, and a dozen other remedial measures to help the economy. It has members of congress praising Putin over Obama, Backing Bibi over Obama, doing anything that any foreign leader wants as long as it undermines the President. One thing… Race. Simple. Easy to understand. Moreover, Joe Scarborough knows it.

Voter ID is about stopping black people from voting. Everyone knows it whether Republicans come right out and say it or not. Shockingly some of them actually have. Birtherism is about Othering the President, it is about Race, whether Republicans come right out and say it or not. ObamaCare's opposition is about Race, whether the Republicans come out and saying or not. And we all fing know it. Shame on Joe for thinking we're too stupid to see it.

Peace,

J. Chr

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It’s too late for the the Republicans....They are fucked!! (Original Post) busterbrown May 2014 OP
Why not post the entire article from Kos?... DonViejo May 2014 #1
Don... I tried.. busterbrown May 2014 #2
It May Be Too Late In The Long Run, But Vogon_Glory May 2014 #3
The whole thing is mind blowing. busterbrown May 2014 #5
Not quite over yet Arthur_Frain May 2014 #4
Not all republicans are racist... BillZBubb May 2014 #6
Plus some libertarians! mimi85 May 2014 #12
Scratch the surface off of a libertarian BillZBubb May 2014 #14
Not to mention raving misogynists. Rozlee May 2014 #25
Not sure about that... freebrew May 2014 #21
The nail in their coffin Jamaal510 May 2014 #7
You might find this article interesting mwyn8 May 2014 #8
where s proof rafeh1 May 2014 #13
I find it hard to believe that McConnell would say those things about the teabaggers. He needs AlinPA May 2014 #17
Joe left his dog whistle at home. kairos12 May 2014 #9
This original post is spot on SmittynMo May 2014 #10
Never underestimate the willingness of our DC DEMS to throw life preservers to the GOP! blkmusclmachine May 2014 #11
Damn straight IkeRepublican May 2014 #19
+1 not until FAUX is dead... freebrew May 2014 #22
Nonsense and wishful thinking Cosmocat May 2014 #15
Conflating the hate for Clinton with the hate for Obama is just plain nonsense.. busterbrown May 2014 #20
Bull Cosmocat May 2014 #23
You’re barking up the wrong tree.. busterbrown May 2014 #26
Cause he was Cosmocat May 2014 #28
Did he lie at a deposition? busterbrown May 2014 #30
Yeah Cosmocat May 2014 #31
Was it a Grand Jury? busterbrown May 2014 #32
As to the OP Cosmocat May 2014 #29
Thank You for this article BrainMann1 May 2014 #16
Once again, I must remind you of the sage wisdom of Cmdr. Solo... Rosco T. May 2014 #18
True, but doesn't matter, really. november3rd May 2014 #24
Kinda overly optimistic... Trajan May 2014 #27

Vogon_Glory

(9,084 posts)
3. It May Be Too Late In The Long Run, But
Sun May 25, 2014, 05:03 PM
May 2014

A long-overdue oblivion for the Tea-publicans may be in the cards in the next few years, but they're still capable of doing a lot of damage until then. The electorate may be changing complexions in various states, a previously-apathetic voting block or two might be wising Up, but I worry about the 2014 races in a lot of red and red-to-purpling states.

Dog-whistle politicking still pays dividends in the South and west, particularly when RW propaganda organs obscure voters' interests. Voter restrictions will succeed in keeping progressive-minded voters away from the polls.

I see this as the slow beginning of a rough transition. But we have yet to reach the turning point.

When we do, though, let's let the Rethuglies sample some of what they've been doing to us. Payback is a'coming.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
5. The whole thing is mind blowing.
Sun May 25, 2014, 05:11 PM
May 2014

The racism, lying, voting against ones own interests and the way a political party exploits the whole freaking thing..You might be correct however, whole lot of crap might be still a coming..

Arthur_Frain

(1,783 posts)
4. Not quite over yet
Sun May 25, 2014, 05:09 PM
May 2014

I remember hearing "Bill Clinton was the first 'black' president" throughout his two terms. Don't think they won't spin that if Hillary gets the nomination. Either that and/or they will just morph the racism into sexism, but it will be more of the same hate and fear mongering.

One thing the neo-cons have always excelled at is ginning up more fear and hate.

mimi85

(1,805 posts)
12. Plus some libertarians!
Mon May 26, 2014, 02:11 AM
May 2014

Ron Paul and Rand "creepy hair" Paul. Well, that's not really fair. Lots of Dems with odd hair as well. Can't think of one off-hand, but no doubt there are some.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
14. Scratch the surface off of a libertarian
Mon May 26, 2014, 09:43 AM
May 2014

and you'll always find a republican beneath. The Paul's are both long time republicans in addition to being quasi-libertarians.

Rozlee

(2,529 posts)
25. Not to mention raving misogynists.
Tue May 27, 2014, 05:56 PM
May 2014

Libertarians are mostly males, more so than your rank and file Repug. They don't attract very many females and the few they do attract are Cruella scary.

freebrew

(1,917 posts)
21. Not sure about that...
Tue May 27, 2014, 09:54 AM
May 2014

with all of the crap the GOP has been supporting, anyone loyal to that party supports racism.
So, in essence, all republicans are racists.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
7. The nail in their coffin
Sun May 25, 2014, 05:48 PM
May 2014

Last edited Sun May 25, 2014, 09:55 PM - Edit history (1)

I think will officially come in 2020 with reapportionment, and with another Democratic administration appointing new SC justices.

mwyn8

(84 posts)
8. You might find this article interesting
Sun May 25, 2014, 07:41 PM
May 2014
http://nationalreport.net/secret-mcconnell-recording-tea-party-lost-primaries-hasnt-learned-conceal-racism/

A secret recording; the last two sentences says it all.
“They have their strong base, their core. But, they don’t have success courting the middle. You know why? It’s their overt racism. The Tea Party hasn’t learned to conceal its racism. That’s where they fail. The Republican party knows better. Want to keep minority voters from the polls? Fine, set up hindrances to “prevent voter fraud”. Want to cut social services? Fine, but do it for “fiscal conservatism”. These Tea Party idiots and their supporters are out hollering the N word, calling Obama an ape, suggest Michelle is a transvestite. That alienates the middle. That’s what costs them. You want to think those things? Think them to yourselves. You want to legislate against that them? Come up with an excuse.

rafeh1

(385 posts)
13. where s proof
Mon May 26, 2014, 06:13 AM
May 2014

Of secret recording. And how do we know itwasnt doctored as happened to erdogan of turkey.

AlinPA

(15,071 posts)
17. I find it hard to believe that McConnell would say those things about the teabaggers. He needs
Mon May 26, 2014, 08:50 PM
May 2014

them in November and also his views are not far from the most rabid teabagger.

SmittynMo

(3,544 posts)
10. This original post is spot on
Sun May 25, 2014, 10:34 PM
May 2014

I could not have said it better. And this sounds exactly like the republicants I know, to the letter. I was sent my "Muslim in the white house" rant today. What a waste of keystrokes on his part.

 

blkmusclmachine

(16,149 posts)
11. Never underestimate the willingness of our DC DEMS to throw life preservers to the GOP!
Mon May 26, 2014, 12:22 AM
May 2014

And, I've been hearing about the GOP's supposed "implosion" now for many, many years. But still the GOP gets outsized representation in laws and regulations even to this very day, courtesy of 11-dimensional "bi-partisanship" & our Blue Dog DINOS.

IkeRepublican

(406 posts)
19. Damn straight
Tue May 27, 2014, 01:09 AM
May 2014

Getting sick of these "Republicans are screwed" claims as well. Nothing short of an absolute dream world. They're not going anywhere.

freebrew

(1,917 posts)
22. +1 not until FAUX is dead...
Tue May 27, 2014, 09:58 AM
May 2014

and the Fairness Doctrine is back.

If the news had been legit, I'm not sure the last 50 or so years would have been quite the same.

Cosmocat

(14,543 posts)
15. Nonsense and wishful thinking
Mon May 26, 2014, 01:37 PM
May 2014

First, the race baiting with this president is NOT the root, it is simply a tool of convenience.

Had Hillary Rodham Clinton won the primary in 2008, she would be in the SAME EXACT POSITION, of republicans acting like complete jackasses and doing nothing.

They accused his husband of being a drug dealer and murder (which be "proof" of a racism base if leveled against Barrack Obama), they trashed Al Gore, John Kerry and Howard Dean, all white males.

Yeah, their party is a cozy home to racism and it has been let loose, but Barrack Obama's primary sin is being a democrat. That is the starting point, and everything else is the means to the end in destroying them nationally.

Second, they are going nowhere and in fact are as strong as they ever have been.

Hillary is LIKELY to win the presidency, but with gerrymandering, the media absolutely 100 percent in their corner, our country fat and lazy and self indulgent enough to buy whatever ridiculous bullshit they come up with, the democratic party meandering around with no force or drive, they are very much more likely to have majorities in both congress and in state legislatures for the rest of our lives.



busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
20. Conflating the hate for Clinton with the hate for Obama is just plain nonsense..
Tue May 27, 2014, 03:43 AM
May 2014

The hatred for Obama is 24/7 and is of the meanest type...Clinton never had anything close to the current Obama’s hatred from the right.... No they don’t disguise their hatred.. How many times have you heard Obama baboon, monkey or ape jokes from republican elected officials at local levels. Too numerous to count....

Cosmocat

(14,543 posts)
23. Bull
Tue May 27, 2014, 04:02 PM
May 2014

I lived in a red area and was young/naïve enough to be completely flummoxed by how much people hated Clinton.

Have they written books on how President Obama was a drug dealer and had someone killed?

They spent tens of millions on congressional hearings against the white house.

Have they had a congressional hearing on the Obama's pets?

Have they had congressional hearings on their Christmas card list?

When President Obama leaves office in two years, will they accuse his staff of literally taking shits on white house desks and stealing things?

The racism and race baiting is a tool of convenience.

You do the battle against these issues a disservice by saying they are the PRIMARY reason they are they way they with this president.

His primary sin is being a democrat. THEY know this, and the media knows this. Laying this primarily at the feet of "racism" allows them to disregard racism as an issue.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
26. You’re barking up the wrong tree..
Tue May 27, 2014, 05:58 PM
May 2014

I never said race was the primary reason for all right wingers.. But I would safely say at least 40% of those who call themselves republicans are out right racists...

How can you possibly sit there and write that Clinton was treated as poorly....

Do you need to be reminded?

http://www.google.com/search?q=obama+racist&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=2AqFU__WCsaGyAS7pYL4Cg&sqi=2&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&biw=1053&bih=576

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
30. Did he lie at a deposition?
Wed May 28, 2014, 10:53 AM
May 2014

There is nothing more that they would rather do..
Again, a poor analogy..

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
32. Was it a Grand Jury?
Thu May 29, 2014, 03:14 PM
May 2014

or a general comment about the NSA?
Might be a little more specific...before i throw it in...

Cosmocat

(14,543 posts)
29. As to the OP
Wed May 28, 2014, 07:40 AM
May 2014

as I noted, they aren't fucked cause they are cozy home for racists.

They have been a cozy home for racists for going on half a century now.

You just have not been paying attention over that time if you think they are going away.

The sell hatred and division, which, sadly, are always, in our lifetimes, going to be political winners.

BrainMann1

(460 posts)
16. Thank You for this article
Mon May 26, 2014, 06:31 PM
May 2014

Never did like Joe and Todd they are cut from the same cloth. The republicans' always thought they are the smart party, to say otherwise is insulting to them. How dare you question their intellect. The fact of the mater is you can not keep preaching the same thing in a different way, it always come out the same. When Obama became President race really became of focal point for them. We have always knew this. Thanks again for making it as plain as the Birth certificate.

Rosco T.

(6,496 posts)
18. Once again, I must remind you of the sage wisdom of Cmdr. Solo...
Tue May 27, 2014, 12:37 AM
May 2014

... don't get cocky kid.

It aint' over till they are out of office.

 

november3rd

(1,113 posts)
24. True, but doesn't matter, really.
Tue May 27, 2014, 04:47 PM
May 2014

The Dems will still be gerrymandered out of the majority in both houses come November.

 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
27. Kinda overly optimistic...
Tue May 27, 2014, 06:08 PM
May 2014

A bit too early to write off the other side quite yet .... They're a crafty bunch ...

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