2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumLet this Liberal be clear ... the Dems could run a goat and I'd vote for it.
I don't care about Hillary being a "war monger". I don't care about how Conservative she is. I don't care about Ron Paul being "reasonable" on going to war, etc., etc., etc. I don't care about debates, discussions or anything that has to do with anything other than voting for Dem against the GOP.
I only care about ONE thing ... the utter and complete destruction of the GOP ad Conservatism. That is it. I do not like the Clintons. I am no fan of Obama. They are all corporatists and fairly conservative. But when 2016 rolls around, whoever is on the Dem ticket gets my time, money and vote. There is NOTHING more imperative than destroying the Right. Nothing. Absolutely nothing.
So you can take all the arguments for who tips what scale and who says what and faces which direction and do whatever you want to with it. I'm voting for the damn goat. And I hope to HELL that the 29 million Obama voters from 2008 who pitched a fit in 2010 and stayed home have learned their lesson and will get their asses out of their seats and vote in 2014 and 2016. That is ALL that matters right now.
Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)ladjf
(17,320 posts)However, there are a few people I would have preferred.
4now
(1,596 posts)Pholus
(4,062 posts)mikekohr
(2,312 posts)Maedhros
(10,007 posts)Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,771 posts)Not saying I won't support whoever we put up against the Rs--both the Pauls and Ryan and Romney and most of the rest of them are vile, but come on!! Can't we at least show an interest in raising the bar a little higher than a few millimeters above those cretins?!
rock
(13,218 posts)ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)Republicans not so much. Goat it is.
Wounded Bear
(58,743 posts)They're about the only animal that can clean out a blackberry infestation.
handmade34
(22,758 posts)and many invasive plants ...and, they fertilize (help the environment) while they do it...
they do their job, and give back at the same time to help everyone, sounds like a good candidate to me
Zen Democrat
(5,901 posts)Because we'd vote for an old yellow dog before ever voting for a Republican.
FLyellowdog
(4,276 posts)yellowdogintexas
(22,280 posts)hence my screen name
Jappleseed
(93 posts)You just make more of them.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)craigmatic
(4,510 posts)conservaphobe
(1,284 posts)Splinter Cell
(703 posts)I WON'T vote for Hillary. My party must do better.
anti partisan
(429 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Blue Idaho
(5,060 posts)On election night - I never stay home and I vote for Democrats - period.
There is just too much at stake each and every election.
handmade34
(22,758 posts)Idaho can use all the Democrats it can get
TheKentuckian
(25,029 posts)Assimilation is defeat.
Corey_Baker08
(2,157 posts)simply enough anyone who is a Democrat & has the courage to run for elected office as a Democrat has my respect & my vote, I wish more on DU would start supporting Democrats & stop all of the negativity & hate among each other, we are all in this together, we all believe in the same causes and cares, we need to come together as 1 united Democratic Party...
DFW
(54,448 posts)The very first time I voted, I voted for a Republican. Presented with the same choice, I would have done so again today.
I was a student in Philadelphia in 1971. Right after I registered to vote, the election was held for Mayor of Philadelphia. The Democratic candidate was the oafish, nasty and thoroughly corrupt Chief of Police, Frank Rizzo. His big claim to fame was that he loved to hear how his cops beat up anti-war protesters with their nightsticks, and he even wore his billy club in his cummerbund when he went to formal events.
Rizzo's opponent was an educated, softly-spoken, thoroughly decent guy (a type now extinct in the Republican Party, I realize) named Thatcher Longstreth. I proudly cast my vote for Longstreth--in vain, of course. But I was to learn a lot about what that feels like over the course of the next 40 years.
After the election, Rizzo claimed Richard Nixon was "his friend," switched to the Republican Party and came under a cloud of suspicion when he started building a house that cost ten time his gross salary as mayor. So, while I did vote for a Republican, the election was, in essence, a contest between one type of Republican which no longer exists and the only type of Republican that survives today. I am not ashamed I voted for the loser, and I'm not ashamed I voted for a Republican. NB, I have not found reason to vote for a Republican since. Gerry Ford was the last thoroughly decent national figure they had, and even then, his party had already begun to rot out from under him.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)I'd do the same if a situation here in FL was the same. Thank God it never has been, in my lifetime. By the time I was old enough to vote in 76, the bad old segregationist Democrats in Florida were long gone.
yellowdogintexas
(22,280 posts)a man of honor and dignity and moderation. I might add the ONLY time I ever voted against a Democrat. I knew his opponent and did NOT like her.
I had great respect for Senator Baker and was disappointed when he left the Senate to go to the White House as Chief of Staff. He was my Senator for the entire time I lived in Tennessee.
yellowdogintexas
(22,280 posts)Look, I have voted for some Democrats that were less attractive than others. The state of today's Republican party is so atrocious that the aforementioned goat is an improvement.
I will vote for our nominee in 2016. However I really don't want to talk about it until AFTER THIS ELECTION.
We have a critical vote coming up. Stay united, vote straight blue, all the way down the ballot. even that wierd guy who got the Democratic nomination for Ag commissioner here in Texas.
Get up off your butts and VOTE. no matter where you live or how certain you think the results will be in either direction.