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cilla4progress

(24,724 posts)
Fri Sep 12, 2014, 02:05 AM Sep 2014

Jon Stewart and Tavis Smiley tonight.

Really good. Heart-stopping. See it if you can.*


*Smiley just wrote a book about MLK and said if he were alive today he would be disappointed in Pres Obama's actions with re-engaging militarily in the middle east.

I myself think Obama is lying to himself, along with us, about the adviseability of this course of action. It goes against his character, he'll regret it some day, and it will do no good in the long run.

You might ask what do I suggest? I don't really know. There must be more options than only military. And being in more of a support role than a leadership role. It's their damn neighborhood. They have to take responsibility for cleaning it up. I'm sure they're laughing all the way to the bank. They got us good. By the short ones.

I'm sick of this going to war shit.

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Jon Stewart and Tavis Smiley tonight. (Original Post) cilla4progress Sep 2014 OP
Ring Ring, Hello? Tavis ? jaysunb Sep 2014 #1
Why? cilla4progress Sep 2014 #2
Smiley has been trashing the President since 2007 One of the 99 Sep 2014 #3
I bow to your judgment on this. And I think he's only in it for himself. freshwest Sep 2014 #15
If you don't approve of Tavis Smiley you can hope he'll break a leg as he's one of the "stars" on a kennedy Sep 2014 #4
wow - they are really stretching the definition of 'stars" Adenoid_Hynkel Sep 2014 #13
Get your barf bag ready for one of their former 'stars': freshwest Sep 2014 #14
Who said our approach is "only military"? JoePhilly Sep 2014 #5
Ok, then - knee-jerk military? cilla4progress Sep 2014 #6
Nothing this President has done ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #7
The decision to begin air strikes over a country who doesn't want us there cilla4progress Sep 2014 #8
Iraq has asked us for help. JoePhilly Sep 2014 #11
There has been no knee-jerk. JoePhilly Sep 2014 #10
This. cilla4progress Sep 2014 #9
Is Smiley still faking completed dates for his "poverty tour" Adenoid_Hynkel Sep 2014 #12
 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
13. wow - they are really stretching the definition of 'stars"
Fri Sep 12, 2014, 08:21 PM
Sep 2014

When Carlton from the Fresh Prince is the biggest name you can get, maybe it's time for the show to pack it in.

cilla4progress

(24,724 posts)
6. Ok, then - knee-jerk military?
Fri Sep 12, 2014, 11:38 AM
Sep 2014

Why does the US need to be out front on this? Does not make sense to me. The countries in the neighborhood there should take care of this, as they are the main targets. Are they really going to succeed, these air strikes? Remember whack-a-mole? We are NOT going to destroy terrorism. THAT's naive!

Jon Stewart speaks for me.

cilla4progress

(24,724 posts)
8. The decision to begin air strikes over a country who doesn't want us there
Fri Sep 12, 2014, 12:09 PM
Sep 2014

is not entirely Pres Obama's.

I don't believe he believes in it. His delivery was wooden, and think he is sickened by it. I'm not saying I don't think he believes in doing it on some level, but I think he is being pressured into it. Obviously.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
11. Iraq has asked us for help.
Fri Sep 12, 2014, 02:37 PM
Sep 2014

And as for Syria ... you might want to consider what Obama said to McCain about going after OBL in Pakistan.

He said if he had the right intel, and pakistan was unable or unwilling to help, he'd go in. And he did exactly that.

Here, I suspect that if he thinks specific targets in Syria can be hit and that would significantly degrade ISIL, he'll do it. But there again, he won't knee-jerk it.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
10. There has been no knee-jerk.
Fri Sep 12, 2014, 02:35 PM
Sep 2014

The countries there need help.

Iraq actually ASKED for help.

Now, if we had sent 150,000 troops for an extended occupation, that would be a knee-jerk response.

 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
12. Is Smiley still faking completed dates for his "poverty tour"
Fri Sep 12, 2014, 08:18 PM
Sep 2014

and claiming to have visited cities he never set foot in?

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