ISIS / ISIL Overhyped - Neocons and Military Industrial Complex must be stopped

[egbertowillies]

America, there is still time to avoid another costly mistake. The lead up to President Obama’s ISIS / ISIL speech was a continuous hyperventilation and hype about the capabilities of ISIS / ISIL from a media driven by puppets of the military industrial complex and neocons. Please read the blog post and share.
http://egbertowillies.com/2014/09/12/common-sense-please-isis-isil-hype-threat/

[IronGate]

1. This is what I think of this nut.....

ISIS is a threat to the world and Pres. Obama is, IMHO, doing the right thing.

[Fred Sanders]

2. ISIS propaganda videos being endlessly shown and discussed is going to get people to be

scared of the bogeyman, it is so easy with Americans.

How else can you get folks behind war without terrorizing them first?

What did you think terrorists try to do? Why is the American media helping them and ignoring the voices of government and military that hold all the information available that ISIS is a local threat, information and facts that matter, unavailable or just made up by pundit experts on everything?

ISIS must be hoisting the Mission Accomplished banner on one of their pick up trucks.

[Man from Pickens]

3. ISIS is not the threat to us

The real threat to us is the fear-mongering that allows the crushing procession of the police state to find new and improved ways of abusing and humiliating us here at home. These terror scares are the reason why police departments in Ferguson and all over the country have war machines and materiel intended for use against Americans.

You're something like 12 times more likely to be murdered by a cop than a terrorist these days, and that isn't taking into account all the less-than-lethal damage we suffer at the hands of the occupying military force in badges that has been imposed on us.

[RBInMaine]

8. "Murdered by a cop." Shameful language. Just as bad as the "hype" YOU are criticizing.

[Man from Pickens]

9. Michael Brown was not murdered by a cop?

How about Sal Culosi? Patricia Cook? John Williams? Oscar Grant? Kelly Thomas? Eric Garner? Thousands of other people I could call out by name who were extrajudicially executed at the hands of a police officer, where no punishment was applied except the occasional wrist slap? These are not murders in your eyes?

In my eyes, a killer wearing a badge does not make a murder into something else.

Peruse at your leisure this highly incomplete list and tell me there is not a serious problem here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_the_United_States

[HoustonDave]

10. Killings by cops not all bad

Those lists show all kinds of killings by cops indiscriminately - there are people on that list who killed others and were stopped by cops, people who were attempting to kill others, people attempting to do grievous harm - I am not the world's biggest fan of cops in general, but there are some people who by their actions earn lethal reactions. The old canards like "just shoot to wound" or "why didn't the cop just shoot the gin out of his hands" are BS - let's face it, many if not most police shootings are fair and legal shoots in defense of themselves or the citizens. You can't generalize and say all are good, or all are wrong.

[Man from Pickens]

11. I don't agree at all

Somehow, countries like Japan and the UK manage to conduct their business with near-zero police shootings. These are sizable, modern nations and the difference in police shootings is astronomical.

We have a culture here that when the police shoot someone they are considered justified until proven otherwise - and even then they are not punished appropriately.

The rule should be: If a police officer kills someone for any reason, they are immediately and permanently disqualified from service in any law enforcement capacity. So if they shoot, it had better be for a reason more important than their job, i.e. their life or someone else's life is on the line. A policy like this would drop killings of civilians by police by 95% in one year, guaranteed.

[Schema Thing]

4. how do you overhype a group that captures and then executes

almost 800 Iraqi army recruits?


Seriously, over-hype? That's bordering on Rwanda level evil.

[Cha]

7. It's so easy for those people to say "overhype" and see how many they fish they catch.

Bernie stands with the President on this "Enormously complicated issue".. as he calls it. He disagrees with staying out of ISIS like some around are clamoring on about.

As he stated it's an "International effort" and guess what.. "they have to put money in it too."

Hartman and he talked about one republiCon saying.. they'll "blast him if it doesn't work and ask why he didn't do it sooner if it does." Sounds like a familiar whine.

Senators Warren and Sanders are on board with the President..

FrodosPet http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5527989

[blkmusclmachine]

5. The MIC's War PROFITS PROFITS PROFITS PROFITS PROFITS must be stopped.

War = Death = Profit

[Cha]

6. Not according to Senators Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren, egberto.

Bernie stands with the President on this "Enormously complicated issue".. as he calls it. He disagrees with staying out of ISIS like some around are clamoring on about.

As he stated it's an "International effort" and guess what.. "they have to put money in it too."

Hartman and he talked about one republiCon saying.. they'll "blast him if it doesn't work and ask why he didn't do it sooner if it does." Sounds like a familiar whine.

Senators Warren and Sanders are on board with the President..

FrodosPet http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5527989

[quadrature]

12. $100K missile blows up $5K pickup w/ dummy-wooden machine gun ...nt

[geek tragedy]

13. Um, they're an existential threat to the government of Iraq.

They vast portions of not only Iraq, but also Syria.

It is true that they are mainly occupying a vacuum of legitimacy in those two states, but they have formed their own de facto caliphate in the middle east.

So, sure the hype to people in Kansas has been overblown. But not to the entire region.