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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 02:08 PM Sep 2014

Alison Lundergan Grimes Goes Skeet-Shooting To Prove She's 'Not Barack Obama'

Derp.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/15/alison-lundergan-grimes-senate_n_5822452.html

The ad, released Monday, has Grimes firing critiques toward her opponent, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), as she shoots clay pigeons. She refers to a mix-up in a McConnell web video that featured an image of the Duke University Blue Devils instead of the University of Kentucky Wildcats as well as a comment he made about whether it was his responsibility to stimulate local economic development.

“Mitch McConnell wants you to think I’m Barack Obama,” she says in the ad. “Mitch is the same guy who thought Duke Basketball players were UK! Or who’s attacking me on coal, after doing next to nothing while we’ve lost thousands of coal jobs. He even said it’s not his job to bring jobs to Kentucky.”...

After the ad flashes a photo of McConnell carrying a musket onstage at the Conservative Political Action Conference, Grimes quips "that’s not how you hold a gun."

Grimes has now joined a club of candidates who have featured guns in their campaign ads, including Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) and Rep. John Barrow (D-Ga.) as well as Republican Senate hopefuls such as former Alaska Attorney General Dan Sullivan (R) and Iowa state Sen. Joni Ernst (R).
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Alison Lundergan Grimes Goes Skeet-Shooting To Prove She's 'Not Barack Obama' (Original Post) KamaAina Sep 2014 OP
What a fucking idiot. TwilightGardener Sep 2014 #1
No...shrewd woman, with a punchy ad produced by pro-Obama forces sent msanthrope Sep 2014 #14
We're going to have to disagree. Ads of candidates firing guns to prove their manhood TwilightGardener Sep 2014 #16
I agree with this sentiment, but not in this particular instance Hippo_Tron Sep 2014 #25
(edited) Do you have a link for reference? AtomicKitten Sep 2014 #17
Yep same ad consultant that produced Obama's 30 minute TV spot in 2008 Hippo_Tron Sep 2014 #24
Next up: Obama goes golfing to prove he's 'not Alison Lundergan Grimes' KamaAina Sep 2014 #2
The headline is misleading. Eric J in MN Sep 2014 #4
Yes get the red out Sep 2014 #6
She's trailing and figured that a dramatic ad was worth the risk (NT) Eric J in MN Sep 2014 #3
her internal polls has her ahead bigdarryl Sep 2014 #8
Internal polls don't really mean much, IronGate Sep 2014 #9
I figured people would hate on her for that get the red out Sep 2014 #5
Doesnt that make her more like Obama? Travis_0004 Sep 2014 #7
Her ad appears to be patterned after the Manchin ad. And he won with that ad. SunSeeker Sep 2014 #22
Well, that IS a high-dollar shotgun... Eleanors38 Sep 2014 #23
I'd feel better about her if she spent more time telling me how she disagreed with McConnell tularetom Sep 2014 #10
It's Kentucky! flpoljunkie Sep 2014 #11
Alison Lundergan Grimes Goes Skeet-Shooting To Prove She's 'Not Barack Obama' fifthoffive Sep 2014 #12
Coal country generally responds well to fracking KamaAina Sep 2014 #13
Another way to interpret this ad King_Klonopin Sep 2014 #18
Kynect has absolutely nothing to do with "Obamacare"! Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2014 #20
Like her political positions & so should the people of Kentucky. Kentucky declined under McConnell. Sunlei Sep 2014 #15
*sigh* Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2014 #19
You play the game as it is until you have the power to change it. stevenleser Sep 2014 #21
I know, I know Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2014 #27
Run the campaign you have to run Recursion Sep 2014 #26
Will it work, though? Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2014 #28
Time will tell Recursion Sep 2014 #29
Well. Weirder strategies have worked I suppose Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2014 #30
At least she didn't shoot at poor animals Reter Sep 2014 #31
What's wrong with hunting animals? IronGate Sep 2014 #32
As much as I want McConnell out of there SmittynMo Sep 2014 #33
 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
14. No...shrewd woman, with a punchy ad produced by pro-Obama forces sent
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 04:49 PM
Sep 2014

to help her.

This is one President who rolls with the punches.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
16. We're going to have to disagree. Ads of candidates firing guns to prove their manhood
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 05:14 PM
Sep 2014

are universally fucking idiotic. Photo-ops are bad enough, but ads are how the low-info's choose a candidate, and guns featured in ads make me sick. Just plain gross pandering.

Hippo_Tron

(25,453 posts)
25. I agree with this sentiment, but not in this particular instance
Tue Sep 16, 2014, 11:51 PM
Sep 2014

I wasn't a fan of Dale Peterson pretending to shoot at someone trying to steal a yard sign or Joe Manchin shooting at a copy of Obama's climate change proposal because these ads promote a reckless gun culture.

But this is an ad where the candidate is depicted shooting at clay pigeons on a range, which is a controlled and appropriate setting for someone to be using a firearm.

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
17. (edited) Do you have a link for reference?
Tue Sep 16, 2014, 12:34 AM
Sep 2014

Last edited Tue Sep 16, 2014, 10:31 PM - Edit history (2)

On edit: I researched this. The TV spot was done by Mark Putnam who did some of Obama' ads. He sounds like a wizkid. Which makes this icky ad with guns particularly puzzling.

I can find no evidence of "pro-Obama forces sent to help her." ... From all I've read, she is a Clinton protege who convinced her to run away from the ACA which is nuts since Kynect is Kentucky's well-received and popular version of the ACA.

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
4. The headline is misleading.
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 02:20 PM
Sep 2014

She didn't say that skeet-shooting proves she's not Obama.

She said, “I disagree with (Obama) on guns, coal and the EPA."

get the red out

(13,461 posts)
5. I figured people would hate on her for that
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 02:35 PM
Sep 2014

I saw the ad this morning and knew this was coming.

There are things I would change about this state, but if she has any chance at all she has to distance herself from the President. It has to be done.

 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
7. Doesnt that make her more like Obama?
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 03:04 PM
Sep 2014


I live in Cincinnati and I saw the commercial and thought it was dumb. I also think she is a long shot to win.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
22. Her ad appears to be patterned after the Manchin ad. And he won with that ad.
Tue Sep 16, 2014, 10:41 PM
Sep 2014

Dead Aim - Joe Manchin for West Virginia TV Ad:

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
23. Well, that IS a high-dollar shotgun...
Tue Sep 16, 2014, 10:43 PM
Sep 2014

According to WaPo, it is a Browning Superposed costing <> $5,000. He shoots it regularly for skeet.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
10. I'd feel better about her if she spent more time telling me how she disagreed with McConnell
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 03:42 PM
Sep 2014

And less time telling me how she disagrees with Obama.

But I guess considering everything she's as good as we're gonna get.

Since she claims to support "coal jobs", I wonder how she feels about things like, oh I don't know, mine safety.

fifthoffive

(382 posts)
12. Alison Lundergan Grimes Goes Skeet-Shooting To Prove She's 'Not Barack Obama'
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 04:11 PM
Sep 2014

Being from Kentucky, I believe that people in Kentucky need to come to grips with the fact that the coal jobs that have been lost are never coming back. Coal, as an energy source, is being replaced and until someone finds another profitable use for coal, the number of coal jobs will continue to decline.

It's time to move forward instead of looking backward.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
13. Coal country generally responds well to fracking
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 04:13 PM
Sep 2014

Where there is coal, as in Pa., there's usually natural gas.

King_Klonopin

(1,306 posts)
18. Another way to interpret this ad
Tue Sep 16, 2014, 04:10 AM
Sep 2014

she is saying: "I'm more of a man than Mitch McConnell!"

The Turtle is constantly making veiled, misogynistic comments about his
opponent's gender. He is the stereotypical wimp, and she needs to counter-
punch his condescension. It's worth a shot (pun intended)

I can't believe she is trailing in the polls to this tool. How many Republican
voters who signed on to the Kynect program will vote for him anyway ?

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
15. Like her political positions & so should the people of Kentucky. Kentucky declined under McConnell.
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 05:01 PM
Sep 2014

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,406 posts)
19. *sigh*
Tue Sep 16, 2014, 06:43 AM
Sep 2014

The things that Dems in red states have to do to get elected there. Question: If we have to pander to red state idiocy and simple-mindedness in order to win, how are we helping advance our country and our civilization? Plus, I'm getting tired of Dems having to pander to right-wing prejudice against President Obama. Why do Dems have to apologize for supporting him when he hasn't done anything wrong or embarrassing (more so than any other politician)? If anything, Republicans ought to be way more embarrassed about their own candidates.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
29. Time will tell
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 07:37 AM
Sep 2014

We have to trust the people on the front lines, though.

I think in most states running away from Obama is a loser. But, in Kentucky, West Virginia, Ohio, and Wisconsin as it stands right now it's a winner.

That's my own completely amateur opinion.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,406 posts)
30. Well. Weirder strategies have worked I suppose
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 07:58 AM
Sep 2014

Like Mark Sanford debating a cardboard cutout of Nancy Pelosi, which, I guess, plays quite well in South Carolina.

 

Reter

(2,188 posts)
31. At least she didn't shoot at poor animals
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 09:51 AM
Sep 2014

I don't see a problem with her shooting at inanimate things. I like to go to the archery range myself.

 

IronGate

(2,186 posts)
32. What's wrong with hunting animals?
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 09:57 AM
Sep 2014

She'd probably endear herself to a lot of voters, after all, KY is a big hunting state.

SmittynMo

(3,544 posts)
33. As much as I want McConnell out of there
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 10:50 AM
Sep 2014

I'm not so convinced she is the one. Not supporting the ACA is not a good stance for a democrat. And I still haven't heard anything about her other than her negative ads. What does she stand for? She needs to push it from that perspective too.

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