I know I'll be corrected if I'm wrong, but wasn't Hillary inevitable once before,

[hedgehog]

like about 8 years ago?

[elleng]

1. Yes,

and wasn't there some unknown guy? Young? Not much experience?

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

32. Yes, and she didn't have "much experience," either. She had only been in politically-elected office

for two years up until then.

I will not be voting for Hillary, and part of it is due to her arrogant-ass fans.

[djean111]

2. Ssssshhhhhhhh.........

Sounds like the same playbook is being used, too.

[pipoman]

3. only political morons believe they can pick a winner before the campaign season begins

[1StrongBlackMan]

4. Ya know ...

the only ones I hear/see talking about the "inevitability" of HRC are pundits (not exactly known for non-sh!t stirring in the run up to elections) and those that prefer a different candidate.

Just saying ...

[AtomicKitten]

10. well, not exactly

from the HRC forum: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1107900

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

33. I disagree. It's here all over DU. The arrogance is palatable, just as it was in 2008.

The self-righteous indignation of anyone who dare question why Hillary should not be the candidate. How dare they?

Her fans have coronated her as well. And they are rude, arrogant, and to prove their loyalty, they always have something snarky to say about the current president. They do not realize that by doing so, they turn off many people who would ordinarily be inclined to support Hillary.

[VanillaRhapsody]

5. only ones on DU that even use that word

Are those that seem to bash most Democrats. Funny THAT huh?

[LawDeeDah]

14. Maybe the exact word of inevitability isn't used, but the message from many is the same.

[VanillaRhapsody]

15. then stop using it.

She is waaaaay ahead in the polls....that is all we are telling you non believers .

[LawDeeDah]

16. I don't believe polls mean anything this far out of the game.

And I also believe that anything is possible and Hillary could very well win the nomination, which would be very sad. About belief, I think the few here who thoroughly and unconditionally believe Clinton will win the nom and the Presidency is what should be in question.

[VanillaRhapsody]

17. you dont have to....but WE Democrats can!

If you were a democrat you would not be sad about a candidate that beats all Republicans....thats how I Know..

[LawDeeDah]

19. I am a Democrat, what are you?

You don't have a very good bedside manner if you are trying to convince people that Hillary is the one. Indirectly it can do the opposite and turn people right off.

[VanillaRhapsody]

20. apparently you aren't if you are SAD that a candidate can beat all Republicans...

and you WILL end up voting for her...

Indirectly....MOST people support her right now.....including MOST Democrats.....AND she polls better than ANY Republican candidate so far...AND she has one helluva ground game already.....

Should I go on with my proof....

[LawDeeDah]

24. Well there you go again. Hillary not getting the nom does not mean some other D won't.

You have no proof of anything, just because You say she will beat all Repubs does not make it so. If that is true, can you repeat a few times over and truly believe that my old Honda in the driveway is really a shiney apple red Jaguar?

[VanillaRhapsody]

25. and THAT doesn't mean that THEY can beat Republicans either then does it?

and SHE has the polls to prove it....

What have YOU got?

Notta... that's what....

[TheNutcracker]

6. It appears that those who are not CLEAR alternatives do not win.

We been made to believe those with any real difference cannot win. We been had!


GO BERNIE SANDERS

[VanillaRhapsody]

21. What clear alternatives to "can BEAT all Republicans" with polling proof do you have?

[JoePhilly]

7. Do you think she has forgotten?

Think about it.

Do you think Hillary has forgotten the mistakes that cost her the nomination in 2008?

Do you think she'll only plan through February?

Do you think she'll ignore the caucus states?

Do you see another Obama on the horizon?

The answers to these questions matter.

[marble falls]

8. And almost an inevitable two years ago?

[AtomicKitten]

9. She's now more inevitabler than ever!

[VanillaRhapsody]

22. Thank goodness....cause I don't know about you but....I want to WIN!

[dsc]

11. there is a massive difference between her position then and her position now

then she was never, as in not in a single, solitary poll, at or above 50% while she is now at 50% or more in every single solitary poll.

[pipoman]

12. the campaign hasn't begun. ..not a single tough question

When was she never over 50%? After the campaign began? I'm not saying she can't win the nomination, she is one stupid speech, or losing debate away from obscurity.

[dsc]

18. She was never over 50 in the 2008 campaign

meaning that she could keep all her support, and in point of fact gain support as she did, and still lose the nomination. She is a known quantity (basically very close to an incumbent) with well over 50 percent and a huge lead. Barring a massive implosion which pretty much never happens she should win.

[VanillaRhapsody]

23. and how does she poll against Republicans? And who do you have that can do better than that?

[dsc]

29. she has tended to lead in head to head polls with republicans

and do better in them than any alternatives. But her leads are way less pronounced in those polls and she isn't over 50 in them so it would be by no means a sure thing.

[VanillaRhapsody]

30. BUT you have no one who beats that...

Now DO you? Until then I aint buying

[dsc]

31. depends on the other candidate

Biden has been repeatedly polled and Cuomo has been polled some. The rest not so much.

[LawDeeDah]

13. Inevitable and came down in flames.

I find the deja vu amusing.

[arcane1]

26. Unless she's running for office in 2014, I currently don't give a flying fuck about Hillary Clinton

[AtomicKitten]

27. thread winner

[customerserviceguy]

28. True

But tell me who is waiting in the wings to be the first ______ American President, who can possibly top her first woman President schtick?

Joe Biden wouldn't even be the first old President. Nobody in the possible running who's got anything going for them can beat that first woman President thing.