2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHow many people have been killed in your name today?
Every American bears equal responsibility.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)There is a lot of that on DU.
msongs
(67,405 posts)tecelote
(5,122 posts)toby jo
(1,269 posts)upaloopa
(11,417 posts)Individuals with common goals can work together toward them but collectivism seems coercive to me.
LordGlenconner
(1,348 posts)Igel
(35,300 posts)If you're into trying to find reasons to be guilty, why stop at guilt for "sins" of commission that others do?
How about all those who do nothing because those who represent me opt to let people die or be hurt through sins of omission?
Is it really that much worse to sit back and watch a murder while preaching compassion and caring than to kill somebody while preaching compassion and caring? How about watching 20 in the name of peace than 1 in the name of security?
No shortage of reasons for assuming the sins of others and wanting to exculpate them. (If that's what this is. It strikes me more as wanting to control others because they have different goals and you don't trust their motives.)
So many more die in our country from so many other reasons than terrorism.
Your priorities are screwed up.
We should be above killing people. You are the reason we are not.
Maedhros
(10,007 posts)Six weeks of bombing hasn't budged ISIS in Iraq: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/23/world/middleeast/isis-iraq-airstrikes.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&version=HpSumSmallMedia&module=a-lede-package-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0
Although the airstrikes appear to have stopped the extremists march toward Baghdad, the Islamic State is still dealing humiliating blows to the Iraqi Army. On Monday, the government acknowledged that it had lost control of the small town of Sichar and lost contact with several hundred of its soldiers who had been besieged for nearly a week at a camp north of the Islamic State stronghold of Falluja, in Anbar Province.
By midday, there were reports that hundreds of soldiers had been killed there in battle or mass executions. Ali Bedairi, a lawmaker from the governing alliance, said more than 300 soldiers had died after the loss of the base, Camp Saqlawiya. The prime minister ordered the arrest of the responsible officers, although a military spokesman put the death toll at just 40 and said 68 were missing.
...but it HAS caused ISIS recruitment to soar: http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-east/1.616730
At least 1,300 of the new recruits are said to be foreigners, who have joined IS from outside the swathes of Syria and Iraq that it controls.
The United States has launched some 165 air strikes on IS targets since early August. Other strikes have been carried out by the U.K and France, the latest a French attack on a logistics depot in Iraq on Friday.
A number of rebel commanders who oppose IS while continuing to fight the regime of Syrian president Bashar Assad have warned that the strikes are increasing local support for the jihadists.
So...we're not curtailing ISIL and instead are helping to swell their ranks. BRILLIANT.
Your post is warmongering tripe.
/ignore list.
CaptainTruth
(6,589 posts)Iggo
(47,552 posts)But I bet it's a lot!
november3rd
(1,113 posts)If everybody else wasn't here, I wouldn't be here either.
If everybody else wasn't consenting to these murders, I wouldn't be either.
The space between me and my neighbors is mostly imaginary.