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Bad News from Iowa (Original Post) BlueDemKev Sep 2014 OP
18% undecided. Dawson Leery Sep 2014 #1
Well, the momentum seems to be with Ernst. BlueDemKev Sep 2014 #2
You answered you own question yeoman6987 Sep 2014 #4
Brailey never should have insulted his constituence in the way he did yeoman6987 Sep 2014 #8
Insult his constituency??? I don't think so.. I live in Iowa Peacetrain Sep 2014 #12
Well I don't live there so I dont know yeoman6987 Sep 2014 #13
No he did not blast him for being a farmer instead of a lawyer.. Peacetrain Sep 2014 #18
Brailey clearly insulted farmers. quadrature Sep 2014 #16
I will just copy and paste this .. I just typed up a reply to someone else Peacetrain Sep 2014 #19
Heads up on the Iowa polls..just a little warning Peacetrain Sep 2014 #3
It's a shame that we have to invest so much of our resources in blue states BlueDemKev Sep 2014 #5
Oh I hear you on that one Peacetrain Sep 2014 #11
And it's something that we MUST fix!! BlueDemKev Sep 2014 #14
So there will be no more polls on Iowa then? Dawson Leery Sep 2014 #6
That is not what I meant.. once you vote.. the survey pollsters stop calling you Peacetrain Sep 2014 #9
I see. Dawson Leery Sep 2014 #15
Well lets just say I am on the western side of the state Peacetrain Sep 2014 #17
Is there any.breakdown count on the early voting.yet bigdarryl Sep 2014 #7
Not yet that I know of.. Peacetrain Sep 2014 #10
Thank you for all your hard work. a kennedy Sep 2014 #21
Thank you.. we are fighting Peacetrain Sep 2014 #22
Good Luck rtracey Sep 2014 #20

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
1. 18% undecided.
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 02:58 PM
Sep 2014

Also, this is the first poll to show Brailey below 40%.

That is strange.

With that said, I am all for eliminating all farm subsidies and letting the market decide.

If the rural voters want teanuts, let them live and die by their own sword.

BlueDemKev

(3,003 posts)
2. Well, the momentum seems to be with Ernst.
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 03:00 PM
Sep 2014

I can't understand it. Iowa does have a lot of conservatives, but the state has almost always voted Democratic in presidential elections for the past quarter-century. What the heck is going on? Where are all the people who helped Obama carry the state two years ago?

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
4. You answered you own question
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 03:09 PM
Sep 2014

The state usually votes Democratic in presidential elections. So I guess in 2016 the state will again vote Democratic. 2014 perhaps not. But I hope this poll is a wake up call.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
8. Brailey never should have insulted his constituence in the way he did
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 04:10 PM
Sep 2014

He easily could have won this race had he kept a tight campaign. This was an easy win that might end up a loss.

Peacetrain

(22,874 posts)
12. Insult his constituency??? I don't think so.. I live in Iowa
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 05:20 PM
Sep 2014

Do not buy into the right side blather...

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
13. Well I don't live there so I dont know
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 05:27 PM
Sep 2014

He blasted the previous Senator for being a Farmer instead of a lawyer. Do you approve of that? Most I hear from call that elitist. However, I hope he can eek out a win. We certainly need his seat.

Peacetrain

(22,874 posts)
18. No he did not blast him for being a farmer instead of a lawyer..
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 07:12 PM
Sep 2014

What he was talking about was the judiciary committee.. that Grassley who has never gone to law school could end up sitting on that committee.. Some got their noses bent out of shape.. but they would have found something else to howl at the moon about.. Most farmers I know, who have not gone to law school, may not be Democrats but understand the need for someone who has knowledge of the law to help on the judiciary..

Farmers are not stupid people.. But partisans who are farmers.. well you know the drill

 

quadrature

(2,049 posts)
16. Brailey clearly insulted farmers.
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 06:40 PM
Sep 2014

I have relatives that are farmers.
perhaps this guy should move somewhere else.

Peacetrain

(22,874 posts)
19. I will just copy and paste this .. I just typed up a reply to someone else
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 07:13 PM
Sep 2014

on basically the same subject

What he was talking about was the judiciary committee.. that Grassley who has never gone to law school could end up sitting on that committee.. Some got their noses bent out of shape.. but they would have found something else to howl at the moon about.. Most farmers I know, who have not gone to law school, may not be Democrats but understand the need for someone who has knowledge of the law to help on the judiciary..

Farmers are not stupid people.. But partisans who are farmers.. well you know the drill

Edit to add: And the name is Braley...

Peacetrain

(22,874 posts)
3. Heads up on the Iowa polls..just a little warning
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 03:04 PM
Sep 2014

We have already started voting.. Once we vote, the poll people stop calling us.. so it has been really up and down here.. I am taking this one with a grain of salt, .. because we had one the other day with Braley 4 points ahead.

The Des Moines Register is a good poll. I am not knocking that by any means.. but I am not depressed about Ernst either..

We have been literally flooded with Koch money.. I can not even begin to tell you how many commericals they have put up here..

And I am in the most conservative part of the state.. and a lot of seniors here are really upset with her.. about her wanting to change Social Security.

We are getting out the vote..and this is an important election.. Iowans go to the polls.. flood them.. so there will be no voting day shenanigans..that is the one thing I worry about..



BlueDemKev

(3,003 posts)
5. It's a shame that we have to invest so much of our resources in blue states
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 03:12 PM
Sep 2014

Think of all the resources we are using to hang on to our Senate seats in Iowa, Colorado, Michigan, and New Hampshire which we really need to spend defending out seats in states like North Carolina, Alaska, Arkansas, and Louisiana.

When, oh WHEN are Democratic voters going to realize that national elections are held every TWO years (not four) and that midterms are just as important as presidential elections??

Peacetrain

(22,874 posts)
11. Oh I hear you on that one
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 05:16 PM
Sep 2014

For what ever reason, it is hard to get our people juiced for mid term elections.. just one of those things

BlueDemKev

(3,003 posts)
14. And it's something that we MUST fix!!
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 05:39 PM
Sep 2014

Or we will never be able to rid America of the right-wing establishment.

Peacetrain

(22,874 posts)
9. That is not what I meant.. once you vote.. the survey pollsters stop calling you
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 05:14 PM
Sep 2014

So we work hard to get our Democratic voters out early..and it can skew later polls because we are pretty good at that .. The Republicans have caught on, so they are getting theirs out earlier too this round I have heard.. but its just an interesting dynamic..

Peacetrain

(22,874 posts)
17. Well lets just say I am on the western side of the state
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 07:05 PM
Sep 2014

Steve King is my representative.. It just does not get any redder..Iowa is a very interesting state.. it has areas that are the bluest of blues..and areas reddest of reds..

Peacetrain

(22,874 posts)
10. Not yet that I know of..
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 05:15 PM
Sep 2014

You know we are very good at getting our people out early..but as I was telling someone else the republicans are pushing their people out early also.. this is going to be interesting

 

rtracey

(2,062 posts)
20. Good Luck
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 09:18 AM
Sep 2014

Good Luck, but complacency will turn the Senate and Mr. Obama's veto pen will run out of ink several times. The only good news out of a Senate change may be if the right does attempt to go totally over the top, it may just piss enough people off the in 2016 the Senate may swing back. On the Maher show this week, Alexandra Pelosi had a video showing just how uniformed the American voter really is. Sad, but true, we are seeing an end to an era, when GOP like the Eisenhower time is totally gone, and the right - wing conservative and ultra conservative part of the party is grabbing hold. Who can you blame, well I will blame every American that can vote that doesn't. I will blame every woman who say she is for equal treatment, but then doesn't vote. I will blame every minority who wants equal treatment, but then will not vote. I will blame every young person, who says they want a fair, just world, but will not vote. You can't blame the Kochs, or the politicians, because they, (whether we like it or not), are trying to get elected, and are doing what our supreme court said they can do. The GOP will take the Senate, and will fail to do what they want. They will not get 2/3 majority to override vetos, they will then act as if they never did this sort of stuff, and the Democrats will become the party of no (according to Fox News).

So good luck Iowa, Arkansas, North Carolina, Alaska, .... until you get a democrat as a candidate the will actually stand up for democrat views and visions, and show the uniformed American voter how the right wing is killing their hopes of a prosperous way of life, this is how we will need to live.....

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