Hillary Clinton about to campaign/speak for Alison Grimes

[misterhighwasted]

Coming up on Hardball..Chris Matthews.

Aside from what one thinks of Hillary, if her appearance can help put an end to McTurtle..i say go girls!!

[DonCoquixote]

1. she better have some magic

because of grimes loses, it will say a lot about Clinton's own "I run to Obama's right" strategy.

[dsc]

3. Win or lose this race will saying nothing at all about the wisdom of that strategy

in a nationwide run. No Democrat running for President will carry Kentucky barring a split of the anti Democratic vote (ie a three way race where there are two right of center candidates) and the status of this race won't change that basic fact.

[Hawaii Hiker]

4. Bill Clinton won Kentucky twice, Jimmy Carter won it in 1976

It's winnable for a southern Democrat..

[dsc]

5. ross Perot split the anti democratic vote

[wyldwolf]

6. Perot wasn't a real factor in Clinton's wins

http://www.salon.com/2011/04/04/third_party_myth_easterbrook/

http://www.leinsdorf.com/perot.htm

in 1992 Perot's presence on the ballot cost Bush: Montana, North Carolina, Colorado and Georgia. However, Perot cost Clinton: Florida and Arizona in 1992. So, in 1992, Perot cost Clinton 32 electoral votes while costing Bush 37 electoral votes. Bush lost by 100 electoral votes, so 5 more would not have given him victory.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2441231

[Jackpine Radical]

2. If she can help anywhere,

that's where.