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FOX News: Obama pulls ahead of Romney by 7 nationally; Mitt can't even pull in 40% (Original Post) Drunken Irishman May 2012 OP
Wait, I heard Morning Joe say Romney was ahead. MrSlayer May 2012 #1
He's probably referring to the CBS/NYT poll which was thoroughly debunked yesterday. Cali_Democrat May 2012 #7
No doubt. MrSlayer May 2012 #8
Joe is desperate for a way out of this. He is really upset! CTyankee May 2012 #9
Wasn't expecting that... My Pet Goat May 2012 #2
Are there more Dems than Repukes, by number of registered voters? Never heard a Laura PourMeADrink May 2012 #3
Democrats have had the edge in voter ID since FDR. Drunken Irishman May 2012 #5
Yes, and sadly the repubs have gotten good at suppressing the Democratic vote groundloop May 2012 #15
They're setting up a narrative... tallahasseedem May 2012 #4
Correct. Dawson Leery May 2012 #10
Exactly. musical_soul May 2012 #11
Or he's really up 7... Drunken Irishman May 2012 #12
I agree. Come next month it will be 'Comeback Mitt' WI_DEM May 2012 #16
Where is the big red headline on Drudge. hrmjustin May 2012 #6
National polls are bullshit LostinRed May 2012 #13
Reality? jambo101 May 2012 #14
 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
7. He's probably referring to the CBS/NYT poll which was thoroughly debunked yesterday.
Wed May 16, 2012, 07:42 PM
May 2012

Their polling methodology was all screwed up. It was almost as bad as Rasmussen's.

CTyankee

(63,926 posts)
9. Joe is desperate for a way out of this. He is really upset!
Wed May 16, 2012, 08:09 PM
May 2012

Expect more histrionics from him. It's coming...be ready to turn that show OFF...

My Pet Goat

(413 posts)
2. Wasn't expecting that...
Wed May 16, 2012, 06:32 PM
May 2012

regarding the improving views of the economy, I have to think it is the lower gas prices and a "stable" employment situation. Ironically, we have the oil speculators to thank for this one. They always overreact bidding prices up or down.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
3. Are there more Dems than Repukes, by number of registered voters? Never heard a
Wed May 16, 2012, 06:43 PM
May 2012

stat on that.

I guess I have always thought they were equal. But looking at these numbers, there must be more Dems.

He's got most of the repukes; O has most of the dems, and Indies support Romney by an edge.

So, given that split of the pie, how can O be leading by 7?

groundloop

(11,532 posts)
15. Yes, and sadly the repubs have gotten good at suppressing the Democratic vote
Thu May 17, 2012, 08:31 AM
May 2012

Misinformation, poll tax (excuse me - voter ID) laws, etc. have been effective enough over the years to keep them in the game.

tallahasseedem

(6,716 posts)
4. They're setting up a narrative...
Wed May 16, 2012, 06:56 PM
May 2012

When they "allow" the poll numbers to rise again, they'll say that Mitt is starting to connect with voters, that he's "coming back", etc. OR they want Dems to feel comfortable so the turnout will be low. I don't trust this ONE BIT!

We always have to work like we're 10 points down

musical_soul

(775 posts)
11. Exactly.
Wed May 16, 2012, 10:03 PM
May 2012

Polls will say different things. Some are reliable. Some are not. The important thing is to educate voters on the issues, get voters registered, and help them get to the polls. Do we even know who takes these polls?

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
12. Or he's really up 7...
Wed May 16, 2012, 10:29 PM
May 2012

It cuts both ways. If you have a poll that shows one candidate leading by a solid margin (and I think 7 would be considered solid), it could depress the turnout for the candidate trailing. Voter turnout going south because of polls isn't exclusive to just the candidate ahead in the polls. While we should always never get complacent, dismissing polls, not trust polls, instills this idea into the voter that it ultimately doesn't matter. I don't like that.

Elections are often about perception. If the perception out there is that Romney is a loser, he will be a loser.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
6. Where is the big red headline on Drudge.
Wed May 16, 2012, 07:38 PM
May 2012

I guess it does not matter to him that fox had romney down so much. I notice that fox did not make much of it's own poll today.

LostinRed

(840 posts)
13. National polls are bullshit
Thu May 17, 2012, 01:02 AM
May 2012

We have to look at State polling and Obama is still doing well in most swing states. It's going to be close but I believe Obama will be re-elected. I will continue to work everyday to make that happen and I hope you all will too.

jambo101

(797 posts)
14. Reality?
Thu May 17, 2012, 08:13 AM
May 2012

I cant believe its even close,Obama is doing his best to restore America's middle class to its former glory fighting an obstructionist opposition of wealthy republicans all the way,their designated leader Romney is a wishy washy flip flopper who if elected is so obviously going to rubber stamp everything his backers ask him to leaving the average American fully wedged under the bus.
If people wake up it should be a landslide for Obama in this upcoming election and another Democrat will win in the next election as well.

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