How about replacing Reid with Sanders, and Pelosi with Grayson? It's about time to do

[Cal33]

something like this. We can't wait any longer. Time is on the Repubs.' side, not ours.

[DinahMoeHum]

1. Problem is, Sanders is an Independent, Dems will not pick him. . .

. . . unless he announces his conversion to Democrat.

Grayson would be great for the House position, though.

[Cal33]

3. If Sanders wants the job he'll become a Democrat. Since he is a real Progressive anyway,

he should be welcome by the Dems.

[walkerbait41]

13. Yes yes yes

[Euphoria]

2. There has got to be a change of leadership

And both leaders, in both Senate and House, need to be active, nimble, activist, take no prisoners, great communicators and enjoy and relish the good fight.

Grayson fits the bill.
Sanders would be ideal but would get his presidential run all gummed up? And party affiliation is a requisite.
Pelosi fails on the communication and failure to take advantage of the fight.

But that's just my take.

[Cal33]

7. Well if Sanders wants to run for president, more power to him. How about Franken? He is on the

Progressive side, too. And there are others. I was also thinking of Warren, but I hope
she'll change her mind about not running for president.

[WhiteTara]

4. He's not a democrat and he has no chance of winning

the position of our party leader without being one.

[Cal33]

17. If I remember correctly, he had already said that he'd run as a Democrat for the presidency. So,

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I suppose he'd do the same to become leader of the Democratic Senate.

[Paladin]

5. Debbie Wassermann Schultz needs to go, as well.

I think a complete housecleaning of the party is more than justified, at this point.

[Mass]

6. Replace them. At this point, even Machin would look good (just joking).

We need leaders who can establish a narrative that is uplifting for people, not spend their time pandering to segments of the population (yes, as a woman, I care about health choices, but I also care about how much money my husband and I bring home, and all I see are low paying jobs being created and Dems solutions seem to be : increase the minimum wage (that I support, but that is going to do nothing to many middle class families).

This said, the only way to reach that goal is to create a grassroot movement. Write to your Democratic congressman and senator and tell them not to vote for Pelosi and Reid (and do not replace them by Durbin and Hoyer either).

[Yupster]

8. The leadership is just plain old

Pelosi 74
Reid 74
McConnell 72
Boehner 64

So Boehner is the youngster of the group.

[Cal33]

10. Would you like to see McConnell replaced by Cruz? Cruz may be younger in years, but his

ideas are older and more primitive than even those of McConnell. It's not one's age that
counts so much. It's one's views on how to solve life's challenges that count.

[Yupster]

12. Wrong Texan

If something happened to McConnell, I think John Cornyn (the other Texan) would take over.

[n2doc]

9. Whomever gets picked for leadership, they will get demonized

Doesn't much matter what they do.

[brooklynite]

11. I have no problem with changing leadership, BUT prove Sanders and Grayson are good choices...

Other that he fact they you agree with their policy positions, point to any experience they have with the political and organizational responsibilities of the job.

[Cal33]

15. I can only judge by their stated political views and the way they have actually voted in

Congress. Both of them look favorable. As far as what they would actually be like
if they became Senate and House leaders, no one can be absolutely sure. This is
true of everyone coming into a new position for the first time. You are asking for
the impossible. There is always some risk involved. There is no guarantee.

[1StrongBlackMan]

14. I think putting Sanders in a/the Democratic leadership position ...

even assuming he would change party identification to Democratic, would be a travesty ... it would expose the difference between standing on the outside, tossing sound-bites and writing OpEd pieces and, actually, being a leader. The former has zero accountability for getting anything done (i.e., advancing the Party's agenda); whereas, the latter is judged solely on that measure.

Sanders being in a leadership position will have DU exploding.

[BainsBane]

21. Getting things done is irrelevant

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What matters is that they provide the right sound bites for the entertainment on cable news that makes some feel better about themselves. Note the complete absence of any discussion of policy in most of the posts along these lines.

[1StrongBlackMan]

22. What is most discouraging to me ...

is the apparent desire for having Democrats LOOK and SOUND tough ... when in real life, looking and sounding tough accomplishes nothing, even impedes getting things done.

I wonder if Folks think that the "few" accomplishments this administration has made would have happened had he came out looking/sounding tough? Or, have they deluded themselves into believing that more would have happened?

[Cal33]

23. You don't think Sanders and Grayson would get things done? I do.

[BainsBane]

24. No one gets things done by themselves

legislation requires a majority vote. That is basic civics. Rhetoric and cable news sound bites doesn't get legislation passed.

The fact you single out Grayson for adoration is wholly offensive. It has been made very clear to me that my views as a survivor of domestic violence are unwelcome on this site and that the political fortunes of wealthy men of power are too important to be impeded by concerns by non-persons like me. Even absent Grayson, I do not share the view that what matters in politics is which elites benefit from political spoils.

[Cal33]

25. How did this get personal with you? I don't know you from Adams. We're discussing

politics, and I am giving my opinion that Sanders and Grayson would be able
to do more than Reid and Pelosi. This has nothing to do with you personally at all.

[justhanginon]

26. I agree with both you and 1SBM. I don't think Sanders

would be that effective and I simply do not like Grayson personally or politically. For leadership positions I think we can do better.

[yellowcanine]

16. Barbara Mikulski - she would drive Mitch crazy.

And that's a good thing.

[Cal33]

19. Right now Mitch is merely crooked. I wonder what he'd be like if he became both crooked and crazy.

[Recursion]

18. I wouldn't want to watch the collective DU freak-out if Grayson and Sanders had to deal with

the reality of running a caucus. My God, there would be blood all over GD...

[Reter]

20. The establishment will always be in charge of both parties, not the far left or right

Same thing with the Republicans. They won't have Ted Cruz as Majority leader and Tom McClintock as House Speaker.