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Democratic Senator Won't Stand for Obstruction in the Senate by (Original Post) kairos12 Nov 2014 OP
Tell me again why we should always vote for the "D". djean111 Nov 2014 #1
Because his vote decides committee assignments and majorities and breaks filibusters Recursion Nov 2014 #14
Typical. If the Democratic Party does not learn avebury Nov 2014 #2
courts Demsrule86 Nov 2014 #3
As long as the Republicans control Congress avebury Nov 2014 #4
Just the senate rtracey Nov 2014 #6
Obama has not been able to make all the court avebury Nov 2014 #16
Kind of harsh CityDem Nov 2014 #20
Gee, you're disappointed! Arneoker Nov 2014 #15
We've got to stop thinking of the Democratic Party as a real thing. (nt) enough Nov 2014 #5
any reason why we should give a sht about what baron machin has to say belzabubba333 Nov 2014 #7
Punk Ass Traitor. Blue Idaho Nov 2014 #8
THIS is the problem with moving political discord to the right. EEO Nov 2014 #9
It depends on what kinds of legislation Manchin and McCaskill would support. Would they support Cal33 Nov 2014 #10
Another phony DINO working for the GOP. Just like NY Governor Cuomo ("D"). blkmusclmachine Nov 2014 #11
As far as I can remember, his father was a genuine Democrat. How come he's so different? Cal33 Nov 2014 #12
This is why it sucks to be better than the R's smorkingapple Nov 2014 #13
Dems Warn GOP Against Threatening Obama on Immigration House Democrats say the president should move ImaPolitico Nov 2014 #17
Welcome to DU kairos12 Nov 2014 #19
Machin shouldn't be re-elected libman100 Nov 2014 #18
He won't be re-elected CityDem Nov 2014 #21
 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
1. Tell me again why we should always vote for the "D".
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 07:14 AM
Nov 2014

All we are doing is hastening the rout of liberals from the New Democratic Party. Which is the object, I think.
When someone can say "the liberal wing of the Democratic Party", seems obvious.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
14. Because his vote decides committee assignments and majorities and breaks filibusters
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 06:14 AM
Nov 2014

I'm not sure why DU has such trouble grasping that.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
2. Typical. If the Democratic Party does not learn
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 07:33 AM
Nov 2014

to "grow a pair" within the next two years I see no reason to come out and vote in 2016. If I had an Al Franken, Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders I would be out there to vote but I am at the point where I refuse to vote for DINOs anymore. I am ready for a new, more progressive party and that is just not the Democratic Party.

Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
3. courts
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 07:54 AM
Nov 2014

vote for the courts...no matter how liberal the party becomes if we have conservatives on the court for the next thirty years it won't matter.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
4. As long as the Republicans control Congress
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 08:26 AM
Nov 2014

there is no chance of getting more progressive liberals on the bench. We have already seen that.

 

rtracey

(2,062 posts)
6. Just the senate
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 09:53 AM
Nov 2014

Just the Senate, and it is NOT that far out of reach. I will predict 2 years of do nothing but attempt to undermine ACA and cut social security and medicare, and the country will not stand for it. Democrats will learn over this and the Senate and Whitehouse will be Democratic controlled in 2016.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
16. Obama has not been able to make all the court
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 08:16 AM
Nov 2014

appointments that he has wanted to so having a Democrat in the WH does not guarantee that we can get Progressives on the bench.

The big problem is that the Democrats continue to roll over for the Republicans in Congress. Until that stops, Republicans and Tea Party hacks will continue to run everything either directly or by obstruction. I just don't see the Democrats growing a spine and standing up to the school yard bullies.

CityDem

(1,103 posts)
20. Kind of harsh
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 09:08 PM
Nov 2014

Reid changed the senate rules and caught a ton of flack for changing the filibuster rules for judicial confirmations. We were able to place several judges on the DC Court of Appeals that would not have happened if the filibuster rules remained the same. Now that the repubs are in charge, the approval of judges will screech to a halt and only the most conservative judges will be approved. Dems did the best they could under the circumstances.

Arneoker

(375 posts)
15. Gee, you're disappointed!
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 07:59 AM
Nov 2014

What news! Guess what, there are many non-indulgent who get no warm fuzzies in voting for less than great Democrats, but they do so because it makes a difference regardless. Don't like that? Poor you! Really don't like that? Then get off your butt and get involved! Check out your local Democratic committee and see what you can do to promote people who are more progressive and who can win elections! (Because winning elections is what you need to do to, you know, actually have an effect on things, as opposed to getting that precious warm fuzzy.)

Or just indulge yourself, vote for some dumb third party, and be useless.

EEO

(1,620 posts)
9. THIS is the problem with moving political discord to the right.
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 01:12 PM
Nov 2014

People like this asshole run as Democrats and are moderate Republicans.

Oh, and Democrats are pussies. They work with these asshole Republicans when the GOP tells the Dems to go fuck themselves whenever the GOP is the minority party. Pathetic.

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
10. It depends on what kinds of legislation Manchin and McCaskill would support. Would they support
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 01:30 PM
Nov 2014

the repealing of Obama's health care bill? If so our nation would return to having
47,000 unnecessary deaths per year of Americans, because they couldn't afford
medical treatment. This is indirect murder -- but it's murder, nonetheless. Would
these senators, do this just for the sake of "getting something done?"

I doubt it. It's too horrible to contemplate. But I can also hardly expect that
the Conservatives would now turn around and start to legislate for the benefit of all
the American people. Don't expect psychopaths to change. They can't, and won't.

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
12. As far as I can remember, his father was a genuine Democrat. How come he's so different?
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 06:24 PM
Nov 2014

And Ron Reagan, the son of the Republican president, is a Progressive!

smorkingapple

(827 posts)
13. This is why it sucks to be better than the R's
Wed Nov 12, 2014, 10:30 PM
Nov 2014

We should play their game but we're better than that.

It burns me too but obstructing just to show that government doesn't work is their game not ours.

ImaPolitico

(150 posts)
17. Dems Warn GOP Against Threatening Obama on Immigration House Democrats say the president should move
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 01:28 PM
Nov 2014

Sorry, but I am new here. Just learning the ropes.

It's about time, Dems start sticking up for the president!
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2014/11/12/dems-warn-gop-against-threatening-obama-on-immigration?int=995508

libman100

(13 posts)
18. Machin shouldn't be re-elected
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 07:44 PM
Nov 2014

When he run again he better not be shocked if Dem voters don't come out and support him.

CityDem

(1,103 posts)
21. He won't be re-elected
Thu Nov 13, 2014, 09:10 PM
Nov 2014

Dems in West Virginia are about to be extinct. It will be like trying to capture a senate seat in Idaho or Wyoming -- no chance.

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