2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumDomino’s Founder Created All Catholic, No Birth Control Town In Florida
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/11/12/dominos-founder-created-all-catholic-no-birth-control-town-in-florida/Dominos Founder Created All Catholic, No Birth Control Town In Florida
Author: Wendy Gittleson November 12, 2014 6:12 pm
Freedom of religion took a major hit when the Supreme Court ruled that corporations can have religions and that their religions are more important than yours and mine. While most of us (at least those reading) agree that Burwell v. Hobby Lobby was pretty clearcut in that it was a violation of womens autonomy over their own bodies, at least there was a little bit of gray area because Hobby Lobby isnt actually the government.
One millionaire, though, is testing the First Amendment to its outer limit by creating an entire town that is based on his Catholic rules. The worst part? The town is built in part with input from Justice Antonin Scalia. I wonder how hed rule if this made it to the Supreme Court?
Ave Maria, Florida houses only about 2,500 residents. Its the pet project of Dominos Pizza founder Tom Monaghan, who is strictly Catholic.
The town brags to be southwest Floridas newest hometown . . . A town where children can ride their bikes to school, walk to the candy store and scoot their way to the ice cream shop. Where neighbors are friends and life is good. Where everyone enjoys life as it is meant to be lived. Source: Truth-Out.org
Ave Maria was founded in 2005. Floridas governor at the time, Jeb Bush, called the town, a new kind of town where like-minded people live in harmony between faith and freedom.
By freedom, Monaghan means the freedom to follow his church-imposed laws, including no birth control or X-rated TV channels. You can be sure there are no abortion doctors in the town either.
Monaghan fancies himself a philanthropist, modeling himself after Bill and Melinda Gates and Warren Buffet. He wants to give away half his nearly half billion dollar fortune before he dies, but unlike Simpsons co-creator, Sam Simon, who is using his entire fortune to feed humans and feed and shelter animals, Monaghan wants to give us the Catholic version of Sharia Law.
shenmue
(38,506 posts)to keep this country from being a religious kingdom. It's one thing to go to the church or what else you want. But to shun everyone else is nuts.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)True Blue Door
(2,969 posts)yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)True Blue Door
(2,969 posts)blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)meow2u3
(24,774 posts)Pope Francis should shut down this town, or at least declare it schismatic.
Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)this man's teaching and actions as a Catholic. But, I won't hold my breath.
Freddie
(9,275 posts)Can they snoop in your medicine cabinet?
Do they investigate couples that only have 1 or 2 kids?
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)but it's the Satmars, a Hasidic Jewish sect - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiryas_Joel,_New_York
mcar
(42,403 posts)SW Florida, very near Florida Gulf Coast Uni.
pstokely
(10,531 posts)nt
MuttLikeMe
(279 posts)busterbrown
(8,515 posts)Who needs Israel when he has Ave Maria.?
Sweeney
(505 posts)If he went back there he would be on a cross by noon. He should go some place where people like him, and people only like him who never met him.
packman
(16,296 posts)Inquiring minds want to know-shit, I already know.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)The current enrollment of Ave Maria University is 1,291 students, 882 undergraduates and 94 graduate students[5] on the main campus as well as 315 postgrades law students at the Ave Maria School of Law.[6][7] The university had a satellite campus in Nicaragua called the Ave Maria University-Latin American Campus, but sold the campus to Keiser University on July 1, 2013. wiki info
hedgehog
(36,286 posts)"Persons under the age of 19 years are not permitted to reside within The Villages unless an exemption is granted. Three subdivisions have been designated as "family units"[13] and are not subject to this restriction. Otherwise, persons under age 19 (such as grandchildren) are permitted to visit for no more than 30 days within a calendar year.[14]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Villages,_Florida
People with money living in gated communities with people like themselves.
LeftInTX
(25,611 posts)Sweeney
(505 posts)This guy has something against sex on a regular basis.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)Two different places.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)hedgehog
(36,286 posts)it looks like the kind of place were anyone and everyone is welcome - as long as you have money! These places give me the creeps.
Meanwhile, back at the ranch:
VATICAN CITY In his latest bid to ease the suffering of the poor and upend the expectations of the papacy Pope Francis plans to build showers for the homeless under the sweeping white colonnade of St. Peters Square.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/religion/pope-francis-to-build-showers-for-homeless-in-st-peters-square/2014/11/13/a0121030-6b6b-11e4-bafd-6598192a448d_story.html?tid=pm_national_pop
Sweeney
(505 posts)poverty stinks.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)SophieKoko
(17 posts)He's been so busy doing this that he no longer cared much about fixing Domino's Pizza's terrible cardboard taste.
yellowcanine
(35,702 posts)And the birth control is free.
Ex Lurker
(3,816 posts)If he wants to spend all his money on this boondoggle, it won't take long.
Always Randy
(1,060 posts)this place is a real case study-----most of the retail stores are vacant, the condo association members have no vote, the law school graduates have the biggest failure rate on the Florida Bar Exam, the Cathedral that Monaghan built lacks the endorsement of the arch diocese, of course there are the scandals with a religious order hitting on the female students . but probably the biggest egg on its face is their attempt to get Jackson Labs from Bangor Maine to build a research facility in Ave Maria that studied embryonic stem cell treatment -----that is a BIG no no in the RC church------fortunately the county Planning commission turned it down-----Monaghan was trying to get the entire project funded by Florida Economic Development -------the Lab is now in Connecticut
Sweeney
(505 posts)When he gives it all away and follows Jesus I will believe he is a Christian, and a better man than I.
Always Randy
(1,060 posts)Always Randy
(1,060 posts)when this place goes down---the name Ave Maria will be sullied with it-----just who is the egomaniac think he is to dare use religious names for his own greed
Always Randy
(1,060 posts)the law school grads consistently have the highest failure rate on the Florida Bar---what to do with the student debt-
http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2014-09-24/story/florida-coastal-school-law-graduates-finish-second-last-passing-bar
Sweeney
(505 posts)How will anyone defeat religious privilege and property privilege at the same time? This isn't a serious question; it's an intelligence test.
napi21
(45,806 posts)because that's what THEY WANT, then knock yourself out Monaghan. It's sort of like a totally Mormon community.