2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumI am no longer donating to the DNC, DCCC, or any of the other aggregators of $. I only
will donate to individual candidates directly. The bulk of my donations will go to primary candidates. My $ are extremely limited anyway. That way, I will know my $ won't be used on any third-way candidates. I hope the party apologists, third-wayers and such won't be butt-hurt. Eventually the party will figure out where their base is, and where the American people are as a whole. I hope it is sooner rather than later. It's getting pretty late as is.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)nt, but ran out of room on subject line.
marym625
(17,997 posts)I am afraid it may already be too late.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)onehandle
(51,122 posts)Giving directly to a candidate is no guarantee.
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)s-cubed
(1,385 posts)But part of Liz Warren's power is that she has raised an awesome amount of money. I'll continue to donate directly to progressive candidates for exactly that reason: it increases their power.
zipplewrath
(16,692 posts)When I get messages asking for money, I try to ensure it is somehow connected to Warren. It could be a "message from her" or it could be her raising money on her own. Sometimes it might only be $5 or $10, but you know they track which email or letter brought in more money, or got more "hits". It is a clear message to the people who run campaigns where the center of power is.
onecaliberal
(36,203 posts)At least I know the corp party types can't give it to someone I can't support.
homegirl
(1,552 posts)that same decision several elections cycles ago. The DCC and the DCCC let Daryl Issa run unopposed. His Democratic opponent ran with less than $10K against Issa's $1.5 million, yet did get 39% of the vote. I consider that a potentially up for grabs Congressional District.
on point
(2,506 posts)snot
(10,740 posts)bigwillq
(72,790 posts)Just a personal decision I made many years ago: I no longer donate to political organizations or candidates.
I donate to local charities instead.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)MisterP
(23,730 posts)silvershadow
(10,336 posts)or 5 each to 4, is of no consequence in the big picture, as long as I support Democrats of my choosing. If you mean other DU'ers, pfft. Yawn. Only on DU could we fight about how I choose to spend my $20.
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)Till then, I'll support the Democrat who can actually win.
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)I assume you think I can somehow undo the gerrymandering, and the dispersed Democrats into red states by the thousands during the war on unions in the north back in the 80's and 90's, but I'm sorry I am just one man and that's a heavy lift. I will just have to settle for my little ole $20 closer to home.
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)So apparently you're not happy with non-progressives being elected Statewide.
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)G, I only have $20 I'm Chyna like to get my guy elected first I'm really not worried about yours especially since I only have $20.
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)brooklynite
(96,882 posts)...and my point stands. We won in 2006 and 2008 (before redistricting) because we included moderates and Blue Dogs who could win in districts that an Alan Grayson or an Elizabeth Warren couldn't.
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)before the coup. I guess I'm just tilting at windmills now. Anyhow, with only $20 to spend (literally), I think I will sink it all into local candidates close to home.
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)...and electing a Republican is far worse than a Blue Dog, if that's the best we can do.
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)brooklynite
(96,882 posts)Hard to imagine a more liberal Democrat who'd get elected there.
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)who grew up in a union labor family. He's gotta come begging hat in hand. It is honestly a revolting situation at this point, and I kid you not. It makes my physically ill to watch our country change before my eyes. So much has been lost.
tabbycat31
(6,336 posts)The national party funnels money to candidates based on previous district performance and the candidate meeting certain metrics. Even with a dumb as shit GOP congresscritter who's been there since I was a baby, I know and accept the DCCC will not be targeting my district.
If the DCCC knows that the Democrat typically loses 60-40 then unless the candidate is extraordinary and the Republican says stupid shit, chances are the district will not get national attention. There's only so much that can go around.
Brooklynite, can I send you a PM about something?
bemildred
(90,061 posts)JustAnotherGen
(33,732 posts)I'm in NJ - and we saw an almost flawless liberal/progressive Gov. candidate deal with a National Party that just wanted to roll over and throw their hands up in the air at Christie.
I almost think they did it (ignored her) just to keep him relevant for 2016.
In the meantime - the people of NJ suffer.
We got the message loud and clear from the National Money People - we are only good at the 11th hour in a Presidential election and they'd throw us under the bus for said election. Good enough. Gotcha. Loud and clear.
So, I've taken my money and in 2014 directed 5 figures to the candidates I wanted to. I'll be doing the same going forward.
National Democratic Partys Fundraising Committees don't have a clue about NJ - and why we have such strong pockets of conservatives in the state.
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)"Well then find and fund a progressive candidate.." gets barked at you, and then when one is ready to go...they can't be bothered.
To hell with them. My money and time goes to good progressive candidates locally. The national money people get gobs of money, they can live without mine.
JustAnotherGen
(33,732 posts)Every cent spent on Kovach in the NJ - 7th was appreciated and put to good use.
Blue State folks have zero guarantee that some candidate in some supposed competitive race (think Grimes in KY) actually even appreciates the donation.
tabbycat31
(6,336 posts)And I know exactly what you meant about Barbara Buono. Now look at Christie's numbers.
JustAnotherGen
(33,732 posts)RKP5637
(67,112 posts)davidpdx
(22,000 posts)I just sent some money to Jesus Garcia for his run-off against Rahmbo in Chicago. It would be nice to see him win given he is a lot more progressive.