2016 Postmortem

Cal33

(7,018 posts) Thu Apr 9, 2015, 04:12 PM Apr 2015

GOP Plots to win Presidency Without a Majority Popular Vote in 2016. Here we go again: They

did it in 2000 with Al Gore, who had half a million more votes than Bush Jr. They intend
to do it again, but with a different twist this time.

http://www.truth-out.org/buzzflash/commentary/gop-wants-a-minority-popular-vote-to-control-the-electoral-college-winner

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GOP Plots to win Presidency Without a Majority Popular Vote in 2016. Here we go again: They (Original Post) Cal33 Apr 2015 OP

Nebraska and Maine do this already yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #1

Agreed. I'm thinking of what I've read of the days of Harry Truman. He sure knew how Cal33 Apr 2015 #3

Agree & it's awful. Only a few Dems. speak up. I've never seen it this bad, it's concerning. appalachiablue Apr 2015 #4

I see how this plays on paper and can see how states can make laws and the Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #2

With the present electoral college system, this becomes messy. mwooldri Apr 2015 #5

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)

1. Nebraska and Maine do this already

Reply to Cal33 (Original post)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 04:15 PM

Apr 2015

Why not have some states that we barely lose do it. We never fight back. Frustrating. Oh we complain but action is a little thin.

Cal33

(7,018 posts)

3. Agreed. I'm thinking of what I've read of the days of Harry Truman. He sure knew how

Reply to yeoman6987 (Reply #1)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 04:35 PM

Apr 2015

to give the Republicans hell, and he was mocking and making fun of them while doing it.
When making a speech, someone from the audience yelled "Yeah! Give'em hell, Harry!"
He replied: "I don't need to give'em hell. All I do is tell the truth, and they think it's
hell."

Today, not too many Democrats even bother to tell the truth about what the Repubs.
are doing. (There are some exceptions, of course, like Warren, Sanders, Grayson...)
So they are continuing to get away with murder. Democratic silence encourages them.

appalachiablue

(44,180 posts)

4. Agree & it's awful. Only a few Dems. speak up. I've never seen it this bad, it's concerning.

Reply to Cal33 (Reply #3)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 06:17 PM

Apr 2015

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)

2. I see how this plays on paper and can see how states can make laws and the

Reply to Cal33 (Original post)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 04:28 PM

Apr 2015

SC allow this to stand but other bad rulings have come out of the SC.

mwooldri

(10,827 posts)

5. With the present electoral college system, this becomes messy.

Reply to Cal33 (Original post)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 07:16 PM

Apr 2015

If taken to the extremes - where reliably Democratic states go all proportional and reliably Repukelican states don't - then it's possible for a GOP win with a minority vote.

If we're going to go all proportional then it should still be a state-wide race but the electoral college votes get divided up based on a state-wide percentage. And all States would have to follow the same rules.

Or perhaps we should follow Nigeria and do it on a straight country-wide vote and the States have no say-so in the matter since it would be a federal election.

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