2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThe delicate flowers of Wall Street warn Hillary to be mindful of their feelings
Politico reported yesterday that, in the aftermath of the Tories unexpected rout of Labour in last weeks elections in the United Kingdom, Wall Street executives are warning Hillary Clinton and other Democrats that if they keep it up with the populism, then theyre going to meet the same fate as freshly resigned Labour Party leader Ed Miliband:
These bankers and their ideological supporters say if likely Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton keeps tacking to the left on Wall Street issues as Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren, other progressive Democrats and Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders are demanding she could wind up facing the same fate.
[Prime Minister David] Cameron embraced the role of the financial sector in growing the U.K. economy and creating jobs, never once criticizing hedge funds, banks or the wealthy, said a top executive at one of Wall Streets largest firms. Miliband ran against hedge funds and bankers, promising bonus and mansion taxes and lost big. Is that a lesson for Hillary as well?
http://www.salon.com/2015/05/12/the_delicate_flowers_of_wall_street_financial_titans_warn_hillary_to_be_mindful_of_their_feelings/
Honestly, I wonder if all this bluster from Wall Street isn't just a ruse to make the voters believe in a miraculous transformation of Hillary from Wall Street darling to humping for the average Joe. I can understand their animus towards Sanders and Warren, but the Clintons have never given them a reason for threats. False rhetoric for public manipulation?
Either way, my vote goes to the real deal, Bernie Sanders.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)corkhead
(6,119 posts)BeyondGeography
(39,347 posts)Otoh, they do like to see voters on our side play an updated version of no difference between Bush and Gore
fredamae
(4,458 posts)Maybe we need to revitalize the "MOVE Your Money" campaign?
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)candidates and refuse to support the candidates then who in the hell are they going to turn to when a candidate is elected who thinks there should be some control on Wall Street? For decades the corporations have been giving to many candidates, including Sanders, Warren and Clinton. To say other wise is just not based in truth. In fact Warren has said she has gotten funds from Wall Street, Hillary has said she gets funds from Wall Street and perhaps Sanders should also fess up.
totodeinhere
(13,056 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)and Hillary has.
totodeinhere
(13,056 posts)most of his donations come from small donors, and most of Hilary's come from large donors including Wall Street types.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)amount, he has taken donations. Hillary may have received larger on average donations than Bernie but this is not something which should be thrown up that Hillary receives more money and Bernie receives less money as a qualification of being able to be president. If either Hillary or Bernie is thinking on this path then I would doubt their qualifications.
NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,684 posts)Human nature being what it is, people need to start relating to her. And it would have to be over something closer to home than Benghazi. I mean, she needs to get up and fight for something we can relate to. If they attack her, they attack us.
erronis
(15,181 posts)Cue picture of some big, bad anonymous bankers. Make sure the actors don't look too much like anybody on Wall Street.
Have the cabal of bankers huddling in a dimly lit bar around a large green felt table (sort of like a poker table, got it?)
Listen to various sotto-voce's of bankers talking about taking over water rights, mineral deposits, grannies' savings. There should be some evil laughter and joking about how "you get yours, I'll get mine".
All of a sudden! In pops Wonder Woman (HRC)! Props will need to work on the image but photochopping may be necessary.
Wonder Woman (HRC) throws over the table and the evil bankers are strewn on the floor like bowling pins.
Voice-over: Hillary cares about the common non-banker, also. Please donate.
truedelphi
(32,324 posts)NOT!
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dobleremolque
(489 posts)if and when one of the Wall Street darlings calls HRC a "traitor to her class" for something she's done, not just for something she's said that hurts their feelings.
totodeinhere
(13,056 posts)The Tories are arguably to the left of today's Democratic Party in this country. They may call themselves the Conservative Party, but that's about where it stops. Their victory certainly was not a victory for philosophical conservatism.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)Hillary will realize what scrwed pover labor is that the middle class, especially the SNP, got tired of the same half measures that Her husband and tony Blair have been peddling. She would know the Titanic is sinking, and would not stay to nibble the caviar before heading to the lifeboat.
staggerleem
(469 posts)IMHO, Cameron did not win because he "never once criticiz(ed) hedge funds, banks or the wealthy", he won because he out-liberaled Milband!
Cameron pledged to put withdrawal from the EU up for a public referendum, which would pave the way for tighter immigration rules and staunch the flow of cheap labor from Poland, Lithuania, etc., offering real hope for the British working class. Milband avoided the issue of EU withdrawal, and the public avoided him at the ballot box.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)It's like that saying, "We'll get along fine as soon as you realize I'm God."
(I think Greenspan had that on a t-shirt.)