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pinto

(106,886 posts)
Thu May 28, 2015, 11:48 AM May 2015

"When you grow up on a farm and have a problem...you don't ask the government to solve it."

~ Rick Santorum in his announcement as a 2016 candidate for US President.

Here's a simple Google search for "federal farm relief funding" -

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=federal+farm+relief+funding

Farmers needed and need some assistance at times. Who steps up? The federal government, as necessary. Santorum's a sham.

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"When you grow up on a farm and have a problem...you don't ask the government to solve it." (Original Post) pinto May 2015 OP
"Santorum's a sham. " KansDem May 2015 #1
... pinto May 2015 #2
...you just pull yourself up with your Federally provided bootstraps & cash your subsidy check. FSogol May 2015 #3
Really, Rick? Subsidies. razorman May 2015 #4
It's all relative HassleCat May 2015 #5
As a group, farmers are among the biggest suckers on the federal teat tularetom May 2015 #6
people like santorum John_Doe80004 May 2015 #7
+1. Thanks for the lead. pinto May 2015 #8
Then what the fuck are farm subsidies, Rick? Arkana May 2015 #9
once a "farm" makes a million in yearly profits Gov. should wean them from the Welfare $$$ Sunlei May 2015 #10
When you grow up in a bank and have a problem, you ask government to solve it Jefferson23 May 2015 #11
I have a bad mind...I was thinking Rick had a problem with a sheep... CTyankee May 2015 #12
Post removed Post removed May 2015 #13
.... these days, you turn to the massive Food Co that owns your farm ... Myrina Jun 2015 #14
A Real Estate Pickle for Rick Santorum mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2015 #15
 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
5. It's all relative
Thu May 28, 2015, 12:10 PM
May 2015

In comparison to cattle ranchers, he's right. Other than that, he's just another Republican goof.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
6. As a group, farmers are among the biggest suckers on the federal teat
Thu May 28, 2015, 12:21 PM
May 2015

Google JG Boswell sometime if you want a real eye opener.

This dude owned the county I grew up in and he was the largest recipient of government help in the entire country.

John_Doe80004

(156 posts)
7. people like santorum
Thu May 28, 2015, 01:24 PM
May 2015

and all these teabaggers, conservatives, and libertarians seem to forget history of how and why all these federal government programs for the needy and small farms came about and were created and needed.

there is a reason and history behind every government (and this is very easily researched) program from small farm subsidies to food stamps, medicaid medicare, social security, etc, the only exception is the huge gaping handouts to large billion dollar corporations these are not and have never been needed they are simply payment to the billionaire class for buying the election for their candidate.

here is a very good website to get people started on researching the history behind government programs

http://www.socialwelfarehistory.com/

pinto

(106,886 posts)
8. +1. Thanks for the lead.
Thu May 28, 2015, 01:37 PM
May 2015

There's a great, valid role for federal government. And it's not all bombs and such. Sorry libertarians - we have and will have federalism to some extent as a functioning component of our national life and well being.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
10. once a "farm" makes a million in yearly profits Gov. should wean them from the Welfare $$$
Fri May 29, 2015, 10:35 AM
May 2015

Corporations take advantage of all the free gov. money they can and game the 1800s laws for more 'free stuff'

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
11. When you grow up in a bank and have a problem, you ask government to solve it
Fri May 29, 2015, 07:29 PM
May 2015

and we will, and the bank keeps all the perks, too. ~Rick Santorum

Response to pinto (Original post)

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
14. .... these days, you turn to the massive Food Co that owns your farm ...
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 12:14 PM
Jun 2015

Monsanto, Dow, ConAgra, Dole, Smithfield, Tyson, etc etc ... their lawyers will take care of everything for you.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,382 posts)
15. A Real Estate Pickle for Rick Santorum
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 10:53 AM
Jun 2015
Santorum’s children went to a cyber charter school

By Valerie Strauss February 21, 2012
@valeriestrauss

Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum has said some pretty provocative things about public education on the campaign trail recently, declaring that it is not the job of government to educate children but rather the responsibility of parents. ... That didn’t stop him from enrolling his children for a time in a Pennsylvania cyber charter school and insisting that taxpayers there pay for it, even though his children lived primarily in another state.
....

About a decade ago, Santorum and his wife, Karen, enrolled five of their children in the Western Pennsylvania Cyber Charter School. That was during the time that Santorum served as a U.S. senator from Pennsylvania. ... According to a 2004 article in the Pittsburgh Post Gazette , the enrollment of the Santorum children created a controversy because the family spent most of its time then in Leesburg, Va., and officials in the Penn Hills School District were unhappy about having to pay for the attendance there. Under state law, school districts must pay fees for each student who lives in that district and chooses to attend a charter school.

Penn Hills officials complained to the Santorums, saying that they were not eligible to have their children’s schooling paid for by district taxpayers because state law says that a child is a resident of a school district in which his parents or guardian resides. ... Santorum argued otherwise, saying he owned a house in the district and paid taxes there. Santorum was quoted in the Post-Gazette as saying at the time: “I defend it as I’m a taxpayer in Penn Hills, Pennsylvania. That’s where I pay my income tax, that’s where I pay my real estate tax, that’s where I pay wage taxes, state taxes, I pay taxes like any other state taxpayer. And most people who pay taxes to the school district, who claim that place as their only residence in Pennsylvania, which it is, usually have the right to be able to send their kids to school.”

Ultimately, the tuition bill was paid by the state Department of Education and the Santorums withdrew their children from the cyber charter school and homeschooled them, which they had been doing before they enrolled them in the cyber charter.

This is the house in Loudoun County, Virginia, where Santorum was living at the time:



A Real Estate Pickle for Rick Santorum

2/15/2012 @ 5:24PM

Zillow , Contributor

The last time Rick Santorum was in the middle of a high-stakes campaign with national implications, he was the incumbent U.S. Senator from Pennsylvania and the No. 3-ranking Republican. But in 2006, when Santorum’s seat was successfully targeted by Democrats, the outspoken conservative found himself trying to answer this question: ... Where, exactly is Santorum’s true home?

Santorum became mired in a residence controversy after stating that he spent only “maybe a month a year” at his Pennsylvania home on Stephens Lane, which is part of the Penn Hills real estate market just outside of Pittsburgh.



When he was the Pennsylvania senator, Rick Santorum and his family lived in this Leesburg, VA home. SOURCE: David Pitkin

In reality, Santorum and his family were living in Leesburg, VA, prompting serious questions about why the school district in Penn Hills was paying for his children’s online school tuition for instruction between 2001 and 2004.

Critics complained that Pennsylvania taxpayers were paying 80 percent of the tuition for five of Santorum’s seven children — who lived in Virginia — to attend an online “cyber school.” The flap forced Santorum to pull his kids from the cyber-school program, but the issue helped doom him against Democrat challenger Bob Casey, who beat Santorum by 18 points. In 2006, the Pennsylvania state Department of Education agreed to pay $55,000 to settle the dispute.
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