2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWe are lucky that we have 3 exceptionally strong candidates!
Democrats are very lucky. The 2016 election is going to be a good one we have 3 amazing candidates so far who are very competent compared to the Republicans.
Which one of these republicans can be a president?
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monmouth4
(9,694 posts)rocktivity
(44,576 posts)I posted this three years ago:
Republican voters arent ready to run through a wall for any of these candidates, in contrast to the way Democrats felt about Clinton and Obama in 2008...
..(H)ere at DU, the "Obamatrons" and the "Hillbots" went at each other like rams during the rutting season. It was...so painful that I feared DU would see its first unsuccessful donation drives. But I would gladly re-live every second of it, because I realize now that we had candidates who were WORTH fighting over. And since no one was pre-selected and force-fed upon us, the landslide majority of the "Hillbots" were able to get behind the "Obamatrons" when the smoke cleared...
And I would post this four years ago...
I've decided to make your pic my official 2016 model!
rocktivity
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)that clown car appears to be fuller!
John_Doe80004
(156 posts)whichever one gets the democratic nomination that the others just step aside and not try to run on an independent ticket or some such thing and wind up splitting the democratic vote.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Naturally, Will you run for president in 2016? was the first question DFA Executive Director Charles Chamberlain asked Sanders. Though not definitive, his answer was enough to leave these activists hopeful.
I am giving very serious consideration to it, but before you make a decision of that magnitude, you have to make sure that you can do it well, Sanders said. So what we are doing is reaching out to folks all over this country trying to determine whether or not we can put the grassroots organization together that we need.
Sanders knows he will have to rely on grassroots mobilization to have a fighting chance at being elected, because his campaign will take on every monied interest. If I run, well be taking on the billionaire class, he said. Thats Wall Street, the drug companies, the military industrial complex.
To the dismay some idealists, Sanders rejected the idea of running for president as an independent. No matter what I do, I will not be a spoiler, Sanders said. I will not play that role in helping to elect some right-wing Republican as President of the United States.
http://inthesetimes.com/article/17572/bernie_sanders_president
to pampango:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026140372
Hillary enthusiastically went on the campaign trail in 2008 for Obama despite the loss. With her it has always been more about the ideas and less about her even though she has taken the lion's share of abuse.
O'Malley has little life outside the Democratic Party. It appears he is willing to run negative, which Sanders is NOT, in relation to HRC. But if he isn't prepared to implode, he will support the nominee.
Joe Liebermann was the only former Democrat who took the independent route after his loss to the preferred candidate by his state's Democratic voters. He got back in office, but he's nowhere to be seen now and pretty much despised.
I think we have nothing to worry about on that score. Also, Bernie, Hillary and O'Malley have the blessing of the DNC and the organization and the funds that go along with it. He is part of the Democratic Party and a member of the CPC, the largest group of Democrats in the House. He is the lone Senator in their group. The GOP has called the CPC communist. They're not. They're old school Democrats.
Cosmocat
(14,564 posts)is going to be comedic ...
That said, there are three good people on the democratic ticket.
retrowire
(10,345 posts)And that I could vote for any of them...
But Bernie is my first choice because of the integrity and authenticity of him over 40 years.
Clinton is my second because she's always fought the right fights, but she hasn't stay consistent in her beliefs for as long, plus, she changes the way she acts based on where she campaigns. After seeing that video of her with the southern accent talking about hair coloring, I just... I just got a bad taste in my mouth about her you know? She's also got too many ties with Wall St for me to be as comfortable as I am with Bernie.
And O'Malley seems to me like he's stealing all of Bernie's lines, and hoping he can use that to get by, while being younger and more appealing to the average person. There's nothing that sets him apart, in my opinion.
All in all, YES, the Democratic party has much cleaner and better candidates than the clown car that is the Republican party.
elleng
(130,895 posts)as mayor and governor, a very valuable commodity imo.
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)He was able to drive Maryland - many pluses #1 education in the country. On the whole did a good job as mayor but he did upset a number of people.
JustAnotherGen
(31,818 posts)He lead on the move to single payer - did you know that?
Check out Maryland's health care system and how effective it is.
Also check out his record on the environment.
He's not stealing Sander's lines. Those are just lines for Sanders.
For O'Malley they are check marks on a To Do List - we just need him to get in there and 'To Do' it for all of us.
Andy823
(11,495 posts)He isn't stealing from Bernie, he has already done a lot of what Bernie talks about in his home state when he was governor. You should go to his site and check it out for yourself.
http://martinomalley.com/
kacekwl
(7,016 posts)Lisa D
(1,532 posts)This thread is refreshing.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)I hope it can happen again. There are a few DU'ers that have said if they dont get the candidate of their choice they will write in their vote, but on the whole most said if their candidate doen't get the Dem Primary nod, they will vote Dem no matter who....it was imperative to keep a Republican out of the Whitehouse.
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)Once the candidate has been chosen then we all have to get behind (him or her). Hopefully we won't have 100 candidates like the Republicans!
DFW
(54,369 posts)Not only could you feel the surge when she said it, the whole place actually shook with the effect of about 40,000 pair of feet thumping the ground. We were one on that day.
I don't think we'd have any trouble getting Hillary or O'Malley elected. Bernie would be an uphill (though winnable) battle--not because so many Americans realize what he means by "socialist," but, rather, because they don't.
I wasn't in Denver, tho do remember the event.
Hoping for O'Malley this time around, and agree, he's highly electable.