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1. Very good non-answer from a future President Hillary Clinton cabinet member.

Reminder: Elizabeth signed a letter urging Hillary to run.

[onehandle]

4. Thanks for promoting our Choice with a response!

Our Nominee!

And next President!

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[hrmjustin]

13. Oh?

[PowerToThePeople]

41. knee slapper

[99th_Monkey]

3. Sanders/Warren 2016

Would totally address "the age factor" for Bernie.

I can dream can't I?

[dsc]

21. How she is 66

[99th_Monkey]

31. Wow, you are right! I didn't know that.

She's looking awesome 'for her age'.

Still, she's like a decade younger, which is plenty for me.

[snagglepuss]

27. Age factor? What age factor? Bernie is a vibrant and energetic man not some doddering fool.

If age were a factor why are so many Millennials supporting him?

[99th_Monkey]

32. I'm not buying into the "age factor" as a disadvantage for Bernie

but recognize that such "concerns" are out there, and Warren as VP
would help on that front, plus a LOT of others i.e. Wall St. would have
nothing to gain by taking Bernie out, which I don't think they
are above doing.

[azmom]

35. And the female factor.

Go Bernie Go.

[99th_Monkey]

39. +10 ~nt~

[CoffeeCat]

5. All of Warren's prior comments about Hillary...

…have been lukewarm and polite. She's never given Hillary a ringing endorsement, that's for sure.

Not surprising. Hillary is in bed with the banks, big time. Warren has championed the fight against them. Hillary's stances are not liberal, on many issues--including her corporatism, war votes and fracking/pipeline policies.

There's a reason that the left was "heartbroken" when Warren failed to run. The bulk of the party wants a more liberal candidate. This is evidenced by Obama's win in 08--against Hillary, a more centrist/corporate candidate.

Warren obviously has to tread lightly. The corporate wing of our party that houses the elites and the mucky-mucks will be offended if she doesn't speak well of Hillary. Can't piss them off. But she can sure have her opinions, regardless of what she says and doesn't say.

I think it's a positive sign that Warren said she won't "rule out" campaigning for Sanders. It's noncommittal, but it also points out that no one is inevitable.

[BrotherIvan]

6. She'll be a hypocrite if she doesn't

[KittyWampus]

23. Why? There is a Progressive DEMOCRAT running and it isn't Sanders.

[Koinos]

37. Nonsense. Prove that statement.

Which establishment? Maryland? No billionaires support him. No big banks support him. Wall Street does not support him.

Marching orders from whom? Clinton? Obama? The Koch brothers? The Pope?

I'm weary of hearing uninformed opinions about O'Malley.

Go to the O'Malley Group and learn about the candidate, before you make a fool of yourself:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1281

[Andy823]

42. Are you related to the poster

Going by the name "cheese sandwich"? You kind of sound like you might be his brother!

[FSogol]

45. Ham and Cheese!

[Koinos]

47. On wry...

[bravenak]

46. I was thinking the same thing.

[BrotherIvan]

40. I thought you were a Sanders supporter?

I seem to remember you busting my chops when I questioned your loyalty. I even apologized. So many "stealth" supporters on DU. Curious.

[azmom]

38. I can't see her selling out, but you

Just never know.

[lewebley3]

7. She is a Clinton supporter, Her speech at the DNC Connvention

What to introduce the Clintons, she also sign a letter to have Hillary
run in the senate.

[magical thyme]

11. then why hasn't she endorsed her? nt

[Sheepshank]

8. "Elizabeth Warren Won't Rule Out Campaigning for Bernie Sanders"

therefore, absolutely it's a maybe that she will?

[DanTex]

9. I think the Bernie crowd might bash her to shreds if she gets involved at all.

Just look at how much hate is generated by the fact that Hillary evolved on gay marriage. Elizabeth Warren actually evolved from a Republican to a Democrat! There's no tolerance for that kind of thing in the Bernie crowd.

[Ed Suspicious]

14. I thought this shit was supposed to beneath you

folks in the Clinton camp. Guess not. It's a shit slinging free-for-all.

[Fearless]

15. I haven't heard anything more ridiculous

Sounds like sour grapes to me. You see the writing on the wall. There will never be another President Clinton.

[cascadiance]

18. Hmm... I guess with that logic I must really hate Thom Hartmann for campaigning for Goldwater!

He openly admits that he did. But... I think it really matters what people are today.

I don't go out and worship Michele Bachmann and Ronald Reagan because they used to be very active Democrats too!

[dsc]

22. well I have to say I have seen a whole lot of posts

about Clinton being a Goldwater girl when she was a kid. Did you have any problems with those posts?

[cascadiance]

28. I focus on what they are today... But if their past reflects a pattern...

... then I see them differently.

Thom Hartmann, Elizabeth Warren, Ronald Reagan, Michele Bachmann all are quite different people when they went through those stages in their lives. I myself voted for John Anderson as an independent (the only time I ever didn't vote for the Democratic candidate for president), but today I'd vote for Jimmy Carter in a heartbeat, given the kind of decent person he's grown in to and has been one of our best ex-presidents in our lifetime. When he was championing himself as a born again Christian, which likely was why Bachmann campaigned for him then, that kind of turned me off.

If Hillary had completely evolved, I'd have put the Goldwater girl and her being elected Wellesley College's president as a freshman of a Young Republican's club aside as meaningless trivia. But over the years her and Bill Clinton have fostered the corporatization of the Democratic Party through their alignment with the DLC and third way policies. She's strongly supported H-1B to the extent that I really can't accept. She's been on the board at Wal-Mart right up until her husband was president, and she can't exercise enough leadership to speak out strongly against the TPP/TPA mess that is going to screw workers and many other parts of America just like or perhaps even worse than NAFTA did when it was passed under her husband's encouragement and signature.

For me then those past ventures are a way of studying how her character evolved over the years and are more relevant than if she were a very outspoken progressive today.

And in my book being a progressive isn't just about taking strong issues on social issues. It is taking RISKS of challenging the corporate powers and money by speaking out against their instruments of power in our government that is what in my book is the kind of progressive politician that America needs now!

[YoungDemCA]

29. The Democratic Party has evolved too

On a whole host of issues - for better or worse.

Part of the issue is that the voters and constituencies are different. No more Solid (white) South, for example. And as a supporter of civil rights and social progressivism, I'd argue that that's (overall) a good thing.

[cascadiance]

33. Yes, civil rights were something that Democrats evolved their stances properly in the sixties...

The Democrats still had supported strongly the working man (and women) before this time, even if they weren't as decent about supporting all races and creeds with the southern influences at that time. Part of me feels that Frances Perkins, who was on FDR's staff and was largely responsible for writing what was in FDR's New Deal should be the woman who's face is on one of our pieces of currency, since she was largely responsible for it at a time where women's influences on politics were still just at their earlier stages of growth.

I think that FDR should be remembered as one that challenged that the PTB behind the scenes, and that became the template for Democrats for many years afterwards too. With the corporatization of this party, a lot of that has been lost that we need to get back if we want to draw others back in to the party that many feel disaffected by so that they don't vote for Democrats in an election even when they vote for something like raising the minimum wage at the same time, which so many did in 2014!

[marble falls]

10. I certainly would hope she wouldn't hesitate for a second.

[Jack Rabbit]

12. K/R

It would be excellent if she does that.

[George II]

16. "The activist liberal wing of the Democratic Party was heartbroken....

.....when Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren decided to pass....."

A bit of an exaggeration.

[George II]

17. News Flash!!!!

Elizabeth Warren Won't Rule Out Campaigning for Hillary Clinton.

The bottom line is that she hasn't decided WHO she'll support, and all the "biased" articles won't change that, for now.

[DhhD]

19. Warren and Clinton are exact opposites on To Big To Fail Banking Complex-TBTFBC.

In my opinion: If Clinton wins, I see Warren challenging a sitting president in 2020. A Sanders, Warren ticket will get Elizabeth ready for a 2024 presidential run. Clinton cannot oppose the privatization of Social Security to the TBTFBC? Clinton can only remain status quo on Social Security, while Sander introduces bills to make Social Security even better. In other words, Clinton will remain conservative on many issues as Obama has done, while Sanders and Warren generate progressiveness and accomplishment by debating the issues. The question is, will Clinton lie or mislead the voters like some Democrats say that Obama has done? We the People will see.

Sanders will tie the privatization of Social Security and many other issues, to the TBTFBC while Clinton remains obstinate? In 2008, We the People were voting for punishment of the Wall Street banking gamblers.

[azmom]

36. That's why I wanted. Those thieving mother

Fuckers.

[Cheese Sandwich]

20. I think she's going to go for Hillary. Sanders supporters should be ready for that smack

Maybe, maybe not. Warren is not in any sense a dependable ally, she's made motions toward Hillary.

For Bernie supporters it would be best to not inflate significance of whatever Warren does because she will probably come down Hillary's side eventually. Her policies and Bernie's have been very aligned, so to me it speaks louder that she's not endorsing. It means she's not putting policy strictly first.

[winter is coming]

34. She might choose not to endorse anyone before the nomination,

but I could see her campaigning for Bernie to bring more ears to Bernie's economic messages, which are closely aligned with her own. Although it doesn't look like Bernie's having trouble drawing a crowd. Seems like the venues keep getting larger--and keep getting filled.

[KittyWampus]

24. There is no instance where I can imagine Warren endorsing Sanders. She is a Democrat

An elected Democrat. If she expects any further support within the Democratic Party she won't endorse Sanders.

[Agschmid]

43. Hey Bernie 2016 it is!

Hopefully Warren makes a statement soon!

[cascadiance]

30. She would be committing political suicide by doing such a thing...

I think if she publicly endorsed Clinton OVER Sanders, it would be like her saying "Don't believe a word I say when I've been a populist challenging the powers that be in Washington. That was all for show to get your attention and support. I really am more for the power 'that will win' in my endorsement of Hillary Clinton".

Can you see why that kind of endorsement won't ever happen? The only way she'd do it is if Clinton were to do something VERY strongly to show SUBSTANTIVELY that Clinton's evolved from being aligned with the corporatists, to being someone that will take down their power, something that she hasn't been doing, nor do I see her doing any time in the near future. Clinton had the opportunity to do so, when she could have been very vocal and strong against the TPA votes in congress like Sanders and Warren have been. Making that move might get people like me's attention that she might have turned a page. I however didn't expect her too, and was right not to hold my breath waiting for her to do so.

If Hillary wins the nomination, Warren might THEN endorse her as a good Democrat, but it won't be a very strong statement of support. Just one that jumps on board to ensure that Republicans don't win.

[SusanCalvin]

48. Of course she is not going to commit herself this early.

I think that's great, and you can see I'm a Bernie supporter.

She will do the best for the people as she sees it. Good enough for me.