2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary Clinton On Iran: Before & Now.
Once A War-Hawk, Always A War-Hawk.
From the Democratic Debate in New Hampshire on September 26, 2007
Today:
After a Tuesday morning meeting with House Democrats on Capitol Hill, Clinton tread carefully, saying she hadn't yet been brought up to date on the specifics of the agreement."Based on what I know now, and I will be being briefed as soon as I finish addressing you, this is an important step in putting the lid on Iran's nuclear program," she told reporters after that meeting.
~snip~
Her role in the Iran talks were a major reversal from the 2008 Democratic primary, in which she'd blasted Obama for agreeing to talk directly with Tehran without preconditions, saying he was "irresponsible and frankly naive."
On Tuesday, Clinton praised her successor as secretary of state, Kerry, as well as Moniz, and said she'd ensure it is followed if she wins the 2016 presidential race.
~snip~
Clinton said Tuesday that even with the deal in place, the United States' problems with Tehran's regime won't end.
"This does put a lid on the nuclear program, but we still have a lot of concern about the bad behavior and the actions by Iran which remains the largest state sponsor of terrorism which does go after and undermine governments in the region, that poses an existential threat to Israel, that unfairly, unlawfully confines and tries Americans on trumped up charges," she said. "That bad behavior is something we have to address."
http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/14/politics/hillary-clinton-iran-nuclear-deal/
I'm sure you're itching to help Netanyahu address Iran's 'bad behavior & actions' if you get elected......I'm sure you will!
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Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)JI7
(93,905 posts)Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)
Clinton on Qaddafi: "We came, we saw, he died".................... oh yeah that's funny not
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/clinton-on-qaddafi-we-came-we-saw-he-died/
Hillary Clinton Wants Gaddafi Killed
Posted: 10/19/2011
US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton openly called for the political assassination of Moammar Gaddafi, the Libyan leader. "We hope he can be captured or killed soon," she said -- while in Libya, to Libyans.
It is actually against the law, what the US government is doing. State-sponsored assassination is actually illegal according to the laws of the United States itself.
In the decades before and since President Gerald Ford signed United States Presidential Executive Order (EO) 11905 on February 18, 1976, the US government has directly and indirectly assassinated people -- many people. And EO 11905 is not exactly ambiguous legal speak -- it's one of the most straightforward pieces of legal documentation you will find. In Section 5, subsection G, it clearly states that "No employee of the United States Government shall engage in, or conspire to engage in, political assassination."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/shirin-sadeghi/hillary-clinton-wants-gad_b_1020705.html
Hillary Clinton's Iraq War Vote Still Matters
It is important that the Iraq War and its origins continue to be debated. There remain hard lessons to be learned and one could conceivably make an eloquent case that the vote for the war was and continues to be a disqualifier, especially if that same ill-advised policy of regime change, embraced by the Hillary Clinton of 2002 in her role as a United States senator, was identically embraced by the Hillary Clinton of 2009, 2010, 2011, and 2012 in her role as Americas chief diplomat. Whether the 2016 Democratic contest is relatively short or turns out to be a protracted fight, and whether Hillary Clintons nomination is inevitable or not, her vote to give President Bush the authority to remove Saddam Hussein preemptively deserves another day in court.
President Carter on Sec. Kerry and Sec. Clinton
Whats your take on Secretary Kerrys efforts so far in the Middle East?
I think they are notable, and I have a great admiration for him. I stay in touch with him fairly often by email. I send him messages and tell him what my thoughts might be, and he has responded very graciously. He has had a very difficult time operating pretty much on his own. I know from experience that the best way to have the United States be a mediator is for the President himself to be deeply involved. In this occasion, when Secretary Clinton was Secretary of State, she took very little action to bring about peace. It was only John Kerrys coming into office that reinitiated all these very important and crucial issues.
Time Magazine
NEWSMAKER INTERVIEW
Jimmy Carter 2014
http://time.com/56770/jimmy-carter-jesus-christ-iran-putin-clinton-kerry/
She a little too, too much on her war mongering history.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)a great description
Segami
(14,923 posts)reminds me of W's presidential tough-guy line....."I want justice. There's an old poster out West that said, 'Wanted, dead or alive.' "
Hillary is a war hawk surrounded by advisors who will find a reason to push us into war within her first term IF she is elected.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)graphic.
moondust
(21,352 posts)TBH, that pretty well describes my own impression of her. Contrast that with Bernie's remarkable consistency throughout his fairly long political career.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Back in 2008, she was spitting on the very notion of a deal. of even talking to Tehran. She was making promises about "obliterating" Iran. She cast votes to include provisions for war against Iran.
Her stance on Iran is crystal clear, and she has been making it clear throughout her career.
Then the president comes out with a treaty that basically not only undermines everything she's said, but proves her to be radically wrong-headed on the issue, and her response is this...
"I support the deal, ^B^U^T..."
she's trying to keep her old rhetoric, without directly coming out against the president. She hasn't "changed her mind" and she certainly hasn't "evolved." She just knows that sticking to her old "Obliterate Iran" angle would make her sound exactly like the republicans sound right now, which would damage her poll numbers.
If she does catch the primary, expect her to re-tread to a hardline stance and promise to not honor the treaty or something.
(Props to skinner for that font, by the way. I like how the arrows all point in different directions. Very fitting)
eridani
(51,907 posts)A country which has not engaged in aggressive warfare for a couple of hundred years is comparatively harmless. Funding Hezbollah social programs is a fuck of a lot different from Saudi Arabia bombing the shit out of Shi'ites in Yemen.
PADemD
(4,482 posts)Just about every time she gets a tough question, she laughs. Is this a delaying tactic?
One very minor reason I have for voting against a person is if I think I can't stand to listen to them for four years.
The mute button on my remote was constantly pressed during the eight-year Bush Presidency.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Nowhere are her positions more wrong for this country, to speak nothing of others in the world.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)Frankly I have no idea what SHE really thinks about anything.
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