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LiberalArkie

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The audience embraced his message. LWolf Jul 2015 #1
When people hear him, they like what they hear. They know he is authentic. peacebird Jul 2015 #2
They can identify with Bernie unlike those who were 'born with a silver spoon in their mouth' Rosa Luxemburg Jul 2015 #24
Dear Third Way Neo-Libs (aka: Democrats) fredamae Jul 2015 #3
If Democrats are "third way neo-libs", why is he trying to get their nomination? George II Jul 2015 #10
Huh? fredamae Jul 2015 #11
Most Democrats, VOTERS, are NOT Third Way neo-libs. The party is for the PEOPLE, but your comment sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #13
Well said. nt mother earth Jul 2015 #15
My comment makes no assumptions. George II Jul 2015 #20
You asked a question, assuming that Bernie was looking for sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #23
No....I was addressing the comment: George II Jul 2015 #28
I think we all know what a Third Way Dem is. So most people sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #30
I think you should be telling this to fredamae, not me. I'm not the one who made the sweeping.... George II Jul 2015 #36
the post did not say "all democrats are 3rd way neolibs" magical thyme Jul 2015 #32
+1 Thanks Sabrina, this needs to be said and recognized by more, many more. appalachiablue Jul 2015 #29
Exactly, he tells the truth, he answers question about where he stands on sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #34
Sabrina, your comment caused a jaw-dropping "Huh" response. Made me laugh. Logic is still King. Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #38
Lol, well you can't be for 'forever war' eg, and claim you support women. sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #60
great comment daybranch Jul 2015 #56
Bernie isn't running to the right AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #47
The party elite is Third Way. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #51
What the heck? MyNameGoesHere Jul 2015 #40
... DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #4
This article is not about polls but a speech that was given this week BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #66
When you listen to him artislife Jul 2015 #5
+1 Good comments, I also see this about Bernie. The speech at the NCLR was excellent with the appalachiablue Jul 2015 #42
Love that! nt artislife Jul 2015 #64
Guy on a blog says Sanders got twice the applause Clinton got. sufrommich Jul 2015 #6
Its silly season! MoonRiver Jul 2015 #7
I wouldn't have interrupted this thread if HRC wasn't used as a foil, as is my promise and practice. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #8
Wonder if it was the same blogger..... BooScout Jul 2015 #19
I'm glad you brought that up. Alabama was only supposed to have about sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #39
Are you African American? BrotherIvan Jul 2015 #67
Now we're measuring and comparing the amount of applause the candidates get? George II Jul 2015 #9
I'm sorry, are we supposed to only measure it via impressions of photographs instead? (nt) jeff47 Jul 2015 #12
Well, the standard for photos seems to be if three or four photos sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #14
And notice the Rec syndicate is out in force to ruin your front page experience Capt. Obvious Jul 2015 #16
Get real. There is no Thread Rec Industrial Complex. There are people who appreciate the OP. Ed Suspicious Jul 2015 #45
Big Rec is real Capt. Obvious Jul 2015 #52
As much as I disagree with you here, I have to say, the conversation brought a little smile Ed Suspicious Jul 2015 #53
LMAO! beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #68
You would if someone wrote an article saying Hillary got more applause than Bernie Autumn Jul 2015 #33
yes. Ed Suspicious Jul 2015 #46
Everyone needs something to be proud of when it comes to their candidate. Amimnoch Jul 2015 #41
polling yikes1 Jul 2015 #48
"polls are so out of date" sufrommich Jul 2015 #50
Oh? You have something more current? Amimnoch Jul 2015 #61
They didn't speak to the same audience. askew Jul 2015 #17
Well that pokes a bigger hole in the "applause meter" comparison... George II Jul 2015 #22
So that means he just spoke to a small group of supporters? In a small room? lunamagica Jul 2015 #25
Well, that's interesting. nt sufrommich Jul 2015 #26
On the live stream I watched, the commentators gave a lot of props to O'Malley and FSogol Jul 2015 #43
That's good news. Hope it pays off in increased support for O'Malley. askew Jul 2015 #55
K & R !!! WillyT Jul 2015 #18
Looks like somebody needs to start shoveling more corporate money on the fire. raouldukelives Jul 2015 #21
Oh god my brain is defective! snort Jul 2015 #27
I do that all the time. smokey nj Jul 2015 #31
Bernie, IMO, is for the people and... Hepburn Jul 2015 #35
+1 Woof! appalachiablue Jul 2015 #44
BRAVO Bernie!!! BRAVO!! 2banon Jul 2015 #37
That's nice. n/t zappaman Jul 2015 #49
he held a rally in a separate hall bigtree Jul 2015 #54
Yes, O'Malley has been getting universal praise for his plan. askew Jul 2015 #57
Ramos to O'Malley bigtree Jul 2015 #62
Because people don't read Bigtree. Sanders spoke in a room of 400 while O'Malley and Clinton spoke seaglass Jul 2015 #59
Bernie may have moved to "all-white" Vermont BUT RoccoR5955 Jul 2015 #58
As a latina, I will tell you that my azmom Jul 2015 #63
Sincerity, honesty, and respect... LWolf Jul 2015 #65
"The other speaker" LWolf Jul 2015 #69

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
1. The audience embraced his message.
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 09:19 AM
Jul 2015

He clearly connected with them.

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
2. When people hear him, they like what they hear. They know he is authentic.
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 09:22 AM
Jul 2015

Rosa Luxemburg

(28,627 posts)
24. They can identify with Bernie unlike those who were 'born with a silver spoon in their mouth'
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 10:43 AM
Jul 2015

(with the exception of Martin O'Malley whose great grand parents were Irish)

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
3. Dear Third Way Neo-Libs (aka: Democrats)
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 09:25 AM
Jul 2015

The handwriting (not $$), dear McCaskill, Wasserman-Schultz, Schumer, Wyden et al...is On The Wall.

George II

(67,782 posts)
10. If Democrats are "third way neo-libs", why is he trying to get their nomination?
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 10:03 AM
Jul 2015

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
11. Huh?
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 10:09 AM
Jul 2015

If "he" is Bernie...is he trying to get their support or OURS?
His presence, his words...and whomever "they" come out to support will be Very revealing of "their" own Agenda(s) for us in the Future congress, imo

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
13. Most Democrats, VOTERS, are NOT Third Way neo-libs. The party is for the PEOPLE, but your comment
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 10:19 AM
Jul 2015

assumes it is owned by a few corporate funded elected officials. True the leadership is mostly Third Way for now.

People who left the party, approx 10% of its membership since 2008, are returning to the party just to vote for Bernie. And the more who do that, the more likely it will be that the people will also elect non Corporate funded Democrats for Congress and take their party back so that it represents the people not Wall St.

mother earth

(6,002 posts)
15. Well said. nt
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 10:27 AM
Jul 2015

George II

(67,782 posts)
20. My comment makes no assumptions.
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 10:35 AM
Jul 2015

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
23. You asked a question, assuming that Bernie was looking for
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 10:39 AM
Jul 2015

votes from Third Way Dems, which implied that is what the Dem Party is. I answered your question.

George II

(67,782 posts)
28. No....I was addressing the comment:
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 10:55 AM
Jul 2015

"Dear Third Way Neo-Libs (aka: Democrats)", which makes the assertion that Democrats are "third way neo-libs". The person I responded to made that assumption (more like a conclusion)

There was no assumption on my part, but the question still stands and remains unanswered - if Democrats are "third way neo-libs" then why is he seeking the Democratic nomination? Perhaps he doesn't agree with the assumption and conclusion of his followers, perhaps HE doesn't believe Democrats are "third way neo-libs"?

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
30. I think we all know what a Third Way Dem is. So most people
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 11:09 AM
Jul 2015

do not consider them as representative of Dem voters in general. Which is why the party has lost so many members since 2008. Those former members, and many current members such as most here on DU, do not support the Third Way. I thought that was pretty well known by now. They lost us the House and the Senate in two mid terms. People simply won't vote for people who do not represent them.

Bernie represents the people, and when they get to know him, they support him. Most of the country doesn't know him yet, but as more learn about him, he gains support which will continue as his volunteers, he doesn't have the money to pay the 'experts' all the other candidates are hiring, but his volunteers are hugely enthusiastic and are better than any paid 'expert' at letting people know who he is.

He is building a huge grass roots campaign, and starting last weekend those volunteers began to hold meetups, all of them filled to capacity btw, to begin planning how to introduce his campaign in their states to as many voters as possible.

It's exciting to be part of a real grassroots effort which has grown now to hundreds of thousands in just a couple of months. Amazing really and shows how starved the people are for someone who really represents THEM. Not Wall St.

George II

(67,782 posts)
36. I think you should be telling this to fredamae, not me. I'm not the one who made the sweeping....
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 11:15 AM
Jul 2015

....comment about Democrats, he/she was.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
32. the post did not say "all democrats are 3rd way neolibs"
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 11:11 AM
Jul 2015

"3rd way neolibs, aka democrats" refers to 3rd way neolibs Also Known As democrats.

Iow, all democrats are not 3rd way neolibs, but all 3rd way neolibs are (some) democrats.

Just like all 4-legged animals are not horses, but all horses are 4-legged animals.

And then the poster further qualified the remark by naming 3rd way neolibs in congress. Not voters, whose votes Sanders needs, but members of congress.

appalachiablue

(44,022 posts)
29. +1 Thanks Sabrina, this needs to be said and recognized by more, many more.
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 11:05 AM
Jul 2015

Bernie is bringing a powerful message to the people and they are responding including latinos. The need for a leader who speaks out and motivates Americans is critical now, it's been unmet for too long.

"This campaign is catching fire for a simple reason, and the simple reason is we are telling the truth". ~ Bernie Sanders.

Si se puede!



sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
34. Exactly, he tells the truth, he answers question about where he stands on
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 11:12 AM
Jul 2015

issues and doesn't respond with 'well, I'll be unveiling my proposals in a couple of weeks' type non answers.

And he's building a huge grass roots campaign in just a couple of months. THAT is why there were so many events last weekend in various states, Kentucky, Alabama (and yes,there were AAs there lol) and elsewhere ALL filled beyond capacity with huge numbers considering they were only supposed to be Meetups for people to get to know other supporters.

His message is what is attracting voters and the more people who hear it the more who will flock to his campaign as we have seen already.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
38. Sabrina, your comment caused a jaw-dropping "Huh" response. Made me laugh. Logic is still King.
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 11:17 AM
Jul 2015

A lot of Democratic leaders are indeed so-called Third Way, meaning right of centre but still a mile left of the GOP party of racists and science-deniers.

But the bulk of Democratic VOTERS are not exactly like the leaders.....they have to be wooed, and Bernie gets it.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
60. Lol, well you can't be for 'forever war' eg, and claim you support women.
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 01:00 PM
Jul 2015

Just one example of why the Third Way may SAY they support minorities, but in reality don't care much one way or the other.

As for the Repub Leadership, it is the obscene amount of Corporate money in politics that allowed these morons to get elected in the first place.

So for me, that is the single most important issue in this election, to END the purchasing of our government. We would not have the Third Way in our own party either if it were not for that money.

Eg, they will support Corporate Dems over Progressives in every election, and even Republicans, see Christie eg where we had a good candidate, but the Party abandoned her while the state Dems actually ENDORSED Christie.

So I ignore their claims to support minorities, it's merely what they need to do in order to pass for Democrats. I watch how they vote.

Both parties are losing membership because most ordinary people do not feel represented by either party.

The largest voting bloc in the country right now is the Independent vote. It is now over 42% while Repubs are at 29% and Dems down to 32%.

Mouthing support for women, AAs, Gays etc while voting for legislation that harms them, is not the kind of support we need.

The only candidate with a long and almost perfect record on the issues that actually matter to the minorities the party leadership claims to support, is Bernie Sanders, and that is why I support him. It isn't just words and campaign promises with him.

daybranch

(1,309 posts)
56. great comment
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 12:49 PM
Jul 2015

your analysis of the facts is spot on. Now if we can just get the Centrists to see if you do not go bold, you never change anything for the better. Go Bernie- much more representative of the views of most democrats than Hillary.
Democrats revere Franklin Roosevelt as their hero. I know that today, his ideas would be at least Green or Progressive/Populist or even democratic socialist. Like Roosevelt when he said he welcomes the hatred of those who would deny almost any help to the poor in order to satisfy their greed, Bernie knows the truth of Roosevelt and he and we supporters embrace that hatred as a badge of honor. Bernie say on the national stage what we believe. Trump speaks what the rich want you to believe in order to separate the people with common interests and continue control of our government. But although his ideas looked good in the midst of the tea party ascendancy, he is now seen as a clown by most of America. Some say he is working for the democrats and he is intentional or not But lets not forget that people of all colors are under attack and we must all flight back. This a fight over money and wealth. Bernie takes that fight to those that hold the people down through their donations to Congressmen and women for their campaigns, or through lavish trips, cars, business opportunities or any other mostly legal bribe. If you lay down with pigs you get dirty, so who you get your money from matters. In law enforcement and in auditing, they say follow the money and you find those who control the process. So caring about who is funding your campaign is the number one reason to discern between our present democratic Candidates. Bernie wants to fight the control Hillary's donors over our government. There is no way I can believe Hillary will move this country toward a better life or its people. This would be a betrayal of her donors and she is being donated to in order to continue and enhance that control control over the government and the people. So the peoples eyes are opening and the emperors are more visible and vulnerable so Bernie brings a focus. And that focus is to achieve an economy which best serves our people rather than the rich donors . It is clearly the time for more restrained capitalism regulated by a government controlled by the people for the overall benefit of the people not just the big donor class.
The time is now for all god men and women to come to the aid of their country. The way to do that is support the ideas which aid the people of the country and those ideas are Bernie's platform. Lets rise up for ourselves. As he says, it ain't about him, it is about his ideas. However supporting Bernie and progressives are the first step in reclaiming the country for the people. Go Bernie. Go Elizabeth, Go Sherrod.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
47. Bernie isn't running to the right
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 12:08 PM
Jul 2015

Bernie doesn't have the support of the Third Way®. The Third Way® is desperately trying to coronate Hillary.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
51. The party elite is Third Way.
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 12:39 PM
Jul 2015

The base certainly isn't. My neighbor doesn't come up to me to complain that there isn't enough corporate influence in his life. The Third Way is merely a triangulation, where the politicians can "sound" liberal to voters, but rake in big $ from corporations. Guess whose water they carry.

 

MyNameGoesHere

(7,638 posts)
40. What the heck?
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 11:41 AM
Jul 2015

All Democrats are neo-libs now? You may want to get out your eraser and put away that big ass paint brush.

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
4. ...
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 09:29 AM
Jul 2015

Clinton’s improved the most since May among minorities, including Hispanics (up 17 points)and blacks (+12 points), as well as a mix of other groups, including Northeasterners (+16), “somewhat” conservatives (+14) and young adults (+12).

Notably, two-thirds of Hispanics view Clinton positively, compared with 46 percent for Bush and, for Trump, 13 percent


http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trumps-popularity-rises-negative-clinton-regains-positive-territory/story?id=32450539

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
66. This article is not about polls but a speech that was given this week
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 02:38 AM
Jul 2015

It's a good idea to address the OP instead of trying to derail. That tactic gets very old.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
5. When you listen to him
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 09:35 AM
Jul 2015

IMO, when you listen to Bernie, his words resonate with the Latino community. He is passionate, but simple. I can see him sitting around the table after a meal and talking about what needs to be done, with the kids running around and being like an uncle. His groove fits.


I think he will win more votes as the campaigning continues.

appalachiablue

(44,022 posts)
42. +1 Good comments, I also see this about Bernie. The speech at the NCLR was excellent with the
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 11:58 AM
Jul 2015

crowd responding to his message for Latinos and all Americans. The Berniementum will continue absolutely.

Art is life! To add, no music, no life! Gauguin, an incredible artist, esp. the Tahitian period influenced in part by his earlier experience in Panama then Martinique. His Peruvian heritage was also a major factor in Gauguin's art and life.

Landscape in Martinique, 1887, Scottish National Gallery

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
64. Love that! nt
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 01:57 PM
Jul 2015

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
6. Guy on a blog says Sanders got twice the applause Clinton got.
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 09:37 AM
Jul 2015

It's on the internet,it must be true.

MoonRiver

(36,975 posts)
7. Its silly season!
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 09:49 AM
Jul 2015

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
8. I wouldn't have interrupted this thread if HRC wasn't used as a foil, as is my promise and practice.
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 09:51 AM
Jul 2015

eom

BooScout

(10,410 posts)
19. Wonder if it was the same blogger.....
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 10:33 AM
Jul 2015

Who was gushing about the HUGE crowd (of about 300 people) of all white people in Birmingham whose population is 73% black?

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
39. I'm glad you brought that up. Alabama was only supposed to have about
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 11:17 AM
Jul 2015

30 people at that Meetup. It was amazing to see people flocking to a Meetup like that. As several of those who were there said, 'they are still coming, and coming'. And yes, despite what you heard on DU, there were AAs there, some who explained why they support Bernie.

And then there was the Meetup in Kentucky last weekend. Amazing numbers, over a thousand, when again it was only supposed to be a Meetup to get together with other supporters.

And there were more unexpected crowds at several other Meetups last weekend, it is incredible to see the enthusiasm as people get to know Bernie and hear his message and most of all SEE HIS RECORD proving his message doesn't change, it isn't just campaign rhetoric.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
67. Are you African American?
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 02:39 AM
Jul 2015

George II

(67,782 posts)
9. Now we're measuring and comparing the amount of applause the candidates get?
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 10:02 AM
Jul 2015

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
12. I'm sorry, are we supposed to only measure it via impressions of photographs instead? (nt)
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 10:14 AM
Jul 2015

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
14. Well, the standard for photos seems to be if three or four photos
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 10:22 AM
Jul 2015

from an event showing about 20 out of 300 people are used to measure the makeup of an audience, I guess a standard has been set.

Capt. Obvious

(9,002 posts)
16. And notice the Rec syndicate is out in force to ruin your front page experience
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 10:33 AM
Jul 2015

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
45. Get real. There is no Thread Rec Industrial Complex. There are people who appreciate the OP.
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 12:05 PM
Jul 2015

Capt. Obvious

(9,002 posts)
52. Big Rec is real
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 12:41 PM
Jul 2015

The Bernie Sanders Reccing Crew is suffocating Hillary supporters. It's a form of harassment and stalking.

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
53. As much as I disagree with you here, I have to say, the conversation brought a little smile
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 12:44 PM
Jul 2015

to my face. "Big Rec is real."

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
68. LMAO!
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 02:46 AM
Jul 2015

"Big Rec"!




Autumn

(48,962 posts)
33. You would if someone wrote an article saying Hillary got more applause than Bernie
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 11:12 AM
Jul 2015

when she spoke at La Raza The applause would be measured and the pics zoomed in on and the nationality of the people in the crowd would be touted.

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
46. yes.
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 12:05 PM
Jul 2015
 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
41. Everyone needs something to be proud of when it comes to their candidate.
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 11:56 AM
Jul 2015

Personally, I'm sticking with the real clear politics polls.

Most recent General election stats from yesterday: (sorry, but Bernie doesn't even have enough behind him to make this chart yet otherwise I'd throw it up as well).
General Election: Bush vs. Clinton USA Today/Suffolk Clinton 46, Bush 42 Clinton +4
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton USA Today/Suffolk Clinton 51, Trump 34 Clinton +17
General Election: Walker vs. Clinton USA Today/Suffolk Clinton 48, Walker 37 Clinton +11
General Election: Rubio vs. Clinton USA Today/Suffolk Clinton 46, Rubio 40 Clinton +6
General Election: Paul vs. Clinton USA Today/Suffolk Clinton 48, Paul 38 Clinton +10
General Election: Huckabee vs. Clinton USA Today/Suffolk Clinton 49, Huckabee 40 Clinton +9
General Election: Carson vs. Clinton USA Today/Suffolk Clinton 49, Carson 36 Clinton +13

Most recent Iowa Caucus?
Iowa Democratic Presidential Caucus KBUR/WAA Clinton 63, Sanders 20, Biden 0, O'Malley 5, Webb 3, Chafee 1 Clinton +43

How about the most recent for the crucial swing states (especially Ohio):
Florida Democratic Presidential Primary Gravis Marketing Clinton 65, Biden 0, Sanders 21, O'Malley 2, Webb 1, Chafee 0 Clinton +44
Ohio Democratic Presidential Primary Quinnipiac Clinton 60, Biden 13, Sanders 10, Chafee 0, O'Malley 1, Webb 0 Clinton +47

I'd say that's a tad bit more than "twice the applause".

yikes1

(22 posts)
48. polling
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 12:14 PM
Jul 2015

polls are so out of date, if that is all you have, then you will be disappointed!!

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
50. "polls are so out of date"
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 12:19 PM
Jul 2015

What does that even mean?

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
61. Oh? You have something more current?
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 01:00 PM
Jul 2015

Each category selected was the most recent listed. Hell, the first group was JUST posted yesterday, and they are "so out of date"?

Even if they were, out of date scientifically conducted polls hold a bit more weight in my book than "my candidate was applaused at more than twice the number of times your candidate was applaused at.. at a single event..."

I've got to say.. some (not all) on your side are starting to sound more and more like conservatives in the style of debate where facts and real/actual data is discarded.

askew

(1,464 posts)
17. They didn't speak to the same audience.
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 10:33 AM
Jul 2015

O'Malley and Clinton spoke in the main room. Because Sanders didn't commit until coming until the last minute, he wasn't in the main room but in another room. O'Malley had been asked to be the keynote speaker ages ago and then Hillary decided to attend so they made her a special speaker later in the day.

So, Sanders got to speak to a group of his supporters in a smaller room, while O'Malley and Hillary spoke to the main ballroom with a mixed crowd and a stuffier crowd. Still O'Malley got a huge standing ovation at the end of his speech and a lot of cheers when he listed off all he's done (not just talked about) already for the Latino community.

Link to La Raza official site

KANSAS CITY, Mo.—On Monday, July 13, Democratic presidential candidates former Sec. Hillary Clinton, former Gov. Martin O’Malley and Sen. Bernie Sanders (D–Vt.) will address Latino advocates and community leaders at the 2015 NCLR (National Council of La Raza) Annual Conference, which is being held July 11–14 at the Kansas City Convention Center.

The Kansas City Convention Center is located at 301 W. 13th Street in Kansas City, Mo. The NCLR Press Office is in Room 2215C. Below is the schedule of events for Monday, including the special procedures for press check-in and equipment. Press check-in on Monday will take place at the Wyandotte Avenue entrance near 16th Street.

If you plan to attend Monday’s events, please make sure you have completed NCLR press registration, which is available free of charge to all reporters with current media credentials. In addition, if you are planning to specifically attend the Monday Luncheon featuring Martin O’Malley and Hillary Clinton, you must RSVP separately to news@nclr.org.

MONDAY MEDIA LOGISTICS

8:30–9:30 a.m. Press with camera equipment must check in at the entrance on Wyandotte Avenue near 16th Street. Press must set up equipment before 9:30 a.m. in the Grand Ballroom, where the luncheon will be held.

10:15–10:30 a.m. The Special Session with Senator Bernie Sanders will be held in Room 2505. Camera equipment set up in the Grand Ballroom cannot be used for this session. You must bring separate equipment in order to cover this event.

11:30 a.m.–12:30 p.m. All press (with or without camera equipment) will be escorted from the press check-in area at the Wyandotte Avenue entrance near 16th Street into the Grand Ballroom. Doors will be closed with no admittance after 12:30 p.m.; no exceptions allowed.

1:00 p.m. Martin O’Malley will deliver remarks.

3:00 p.m. Hillary Clinton will deliver remarks.

If you are unable to attend but would still like to watch events during the 2015 NCLR Annual Conference, feel free to watch via livestream.

NCLR—the largest national Hispanic civil rights and advocacy organization in the United States—works to improve opportunities for Hispanic Americans. For more information on NCLR, please visit www.nclr.org or follow us on Facebook and Twitter.

George II

(67,782 posts)
22. Well that pokes a bigger hole in the "applause meter" comparison...
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 10:39 AM
Jul 2015

...if they were speaking to different groups of people, how can their relative receptions be compared at all?

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
25. So that means he just spoke to a small group of supporters? In a small room?
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 10:45 AM
Jul 2015

While the other two (Hillary and O'Malley) spoke to a large audience in a big ballroom?

There's no comparison. What a misleading headline.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
26. Well, that's interesting. nt
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 10:47 AM
Jul 2015

FSogol

(47,623 posts)
43. On the live stream I watched, the commentators gave a lot of props to O'Malley and
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 12:02 PM
Jul 2015

his message. Thanks for posting this.

askew

(1,464 posts)
55. That's good news. Hope it pays off in increased support for O'Malley.
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 12:48 PM
Jul 2015
 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
18. K & R !!!
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 10:33 AM
Jul 2015

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
21. Looks like somebody needs to start shoveling more corporate money on the fire.
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 10:36 AM
Jul 2015

Get out there and invest in Jamie Dimon and his buddies, he'll make sure we all get what you pay for.

snort

(2,334 posts)
27. Oh god my brain is defective!
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 10:53 AM
Jul 2015

After seeing the headline I had to read about how Bernie got twice the applesauce. Seriously. Help me.

smokey nj

(43,853 posts)
31. I do that all the time.
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 11:10 AM
Jul 2015

Hepburn

(21,054 posts)
35. Bernie, IMO, is for the people and...
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 11:14 AM
Jul 2015

...color, creed, gender, gender orientation, religion (if any), ethnicity, etc., simply are not seen by him. Everyone appears to be equal in his book and good for Bernie!

appalachiablue

(44,022 posts)
44. +1 Woof!
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 12:03 PM
Jul 2015
 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
37. BRAVO Bernie!!! BRAVO!!
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 11:16 AM
Jul 2015

I just read the excerpted bits of the transcript at the link.. at first wishing there was a vid, but I so easily heard Bernie's voice speaking these words and the applause interruptions following certain statements.

I'm not at all surprised, but really wowed over it just the same. Wowed over his audacity to be straight up and authentic with his positions and point of view.

Keep this up Bernie! Keep it Up!

zappaman

(20,627 posts)
49. That's nice. n/t
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 12:17 PM
Jul 2015

bigtree

(94,261 posts)
54. he held a rally in a separate hall
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 12:45 PM
Jul 2015

...O'Malley and Clinton spoke to a banquet/luncheon style room, so this isn't a fair or accurate comparison.

A more relevant measure would be the response each got from the Latino community.

Here's O'Malley's (I'll wait for something similar for Sander's address):

Yvette A. Núñez ‏@yvetteanunez (Chief Communications Officer @congreso1977.)
THANK YOU @MartinOMalley for addressing not just #immigration but crises in Puerto Rico and the Dominican Republic. #NCLR15

Yvette A. Núñez ‏@yvetteanunez
@MartinOMalley addresses #PuertoRico issues. "Boricuas have died on our battlefields. We must not let their economy collapse." #NCLR15

Alicia Wilson ‏@ClinicaAlicia (Executive Director of La Clinica del Pueblo)
Whoa! Talking about Puerto Rico! And Deportations of Haitians in the DR! Way to get into it, @MartinOMalley ! #nclr15

Alicia Wilson ‏@ClinicaAlicia
@MartinOMalley talking about unaccompanied minors. Calls them Refugee children. Good anecdote, and good understanding #nclr15

Alicia Wilson ‏@ClinicaAlicia
@MartinOMalley working the Spanish! "Del Dicho al Hecho hay mucho trecho" love it. #nclr15

Alicia Wilson ‏@ClinicaAlicia
Happy to hear O'Malley identifying his family's immigrant roots with "New Americans" now. #nclr15

Alicia Wilson
‏@ClinicaAlicia
Gov. O'Malley! Happy to see him bringing his campaign to the Latino community #nclr15

It's a me, Mario ‏@kalst05 (ΛYΛ | Rutgers Future Scholars)
Martin O'Malley is really making his case for my vote. He doesn't seem to just be speaking, he's showing me what he's done for my community.

Brian Abel ‏@BrianAbelTV
If hate is trumps platform, he should go back to 1840s and run for know nothing party - O'Malley followed by biggest applause of his #NCLR15

It's a me, Mario ‏@kalst05
Martin O'Malley, the only Presidential Candidate to act with United Nations and Allies to stop the deportation of Haitians from DR.

Dan Merica ‏@danmericaCNN (Political Producer for @CNNPolitics)
O'Malley gets standing ovation at close of speech to @NCLR. His speech was well received.

Dan Merica ‏@danmericaCNN
O'Malley get big applause when he says "If Donald Trump wants to run on a platform of demonizing immigrants" he should go back to the 1840s.

NCLR Líderes ‏@NCLRLideres (@NCLR Líderes Initiative creates opportunities for Latino youth to elevate their influence as leaders in the United States)
Amazing speech by Martin O'Malley. Who's inspired? #2015Líderes #NCLR15

Lis Smith ‏@Lis_Smith
Immigration Action Fund Head Steven Choi: “@MartinOMalley has delivered on immigration…we need leaders with backbones."

DRM Action Coalition ‏@DRMAction
@Jose_Aristimuno @MartinOMalley he's always been great on our issues

Ryan Adair ‏@RAAdair
Martin O'Malley is the only one passionately talking about our duty to help Puerto Rico.

Teresa Rusin ‏@TeresaRusin
Amazing speech by @MartinOMalley !! Thank you for joining us at #NCLR15 !!

Steven Haderer ‏@stevenhaderer
Per usual, @MartinOMalley is leading on issues of deep substance and importance for all Americans. Today was just one example #NCLR15

Steven Haderer ‏@stevenhaderer
More importantly, @MartinOMalley made impassioned case for "our fellow Americans in Puerto Rico, and our neighbors on Hispaniola."

Benjamin Rosenblatt ‏@BenJ_Rosenblatt
@MartinOMalley has made the moral, economic, and national security case for real, comprehensive #immigration reform #NCLR15

Corinna Cornejo ‏@corinnacornejo
Standing O for@MartinOMalley #NCLRVote #NCLR15

Ellen McNamara ‏@EllenKCTV5
Standing ovation for @MartinOMalley as he wraps up his speech. @NCLR

Jonathan Topaz ‏@JonathanTopaz
Nice speech in a big moment for @MartinOMalley, keynoting La Raza conference. Continues to make immigration key part of his pitch

A. Manuela McDonough ‏@swellamanuela
@MartinOMalley killed it at @NCLR conference! Looking forward to his immigration policy tomorrow. #nclr15

clairequestion ‏@clairequestion
A standing ovation @NCLR for @MartinOMalley because he will stand for EVERY American. #sisepuede #OMalley2016 #NewAmericans #newleadership

Lis Smith ‏@Lis_Smith
At #NCLR15, @MartinOMalley getting strong shout-out for “record on issues of top priority to Latinos”- DREAM, drivers licenses...

Steven Haderer ‏@stevenhaderer
Strong speech to #NCLR15, great roundtable on #immigration reform, passionate segment on MSNBC, a good couple days for @MartinOMalley


It's amazing to me that this thread gets 50 plus recs for Sanders for applause marks in his speech, but where are these same people responding to the actual immigration plan put forth by Martin O'Malley? Try Googling the response to the plan...it's getting overwhelming praise from the Latino community of activists and immigration advocates.

askew

(1,464 posts)
57. Yes, O'Malley has been getting universal praise for his plan.
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 12:53 PM
Jul 2015

Even Jorge Ramos, has been giving O'Malley overwhelming praise for his immigration plan.

It's too bad that the candidate putting out the most detailed and progressive platform is getting ignored.

bigtree

(94,261 posts)
62. Ramos to O'Malley
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 01:16 PM
Jul 2015
AMERICA ‏@ThisIsAmerica 20h20 hours ago
@JorgeRamosNews to @MartinOMalley: I think your immigration plan is 'the most inclusive and progressive so far'


seaglass

(8,185 posts)
59. Because people don't read Bigtree. Sanders spoke in a room of 400 while O'Malley and Clinton spoke
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 01:00 PM
Jul 2015

to a crowd in the ballroom. There is no comparison.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
58. Bernie may have moved to "all-white" Vermont BUT
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 12:55 PM
Jul 2015

He was born and raised in polychromatic Brooklyn, and has not forgotten those early years.
So was I, and even when my mother was born in the 20s, there were plenty of people of all races in her neighborhood. I was raised in a poor neighborhood with so many different race and ethnicity friends, that when I am asked what race I am, I respond, "Human."
I think that Bernie is from similar cloth. You see we are from the same neighborhood, separated by 14 years. Things were pretty much the same them when I was a kid, as they were when he was a kid.

azmom

(5,208 posts)
63. As a latina, I will tell you that my
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 01:17 PM
Jul 2015

People value sincerely above all. Talk to us with honesty and respect and you will earn our respect and our votes. Bernie is going to win the latino vote.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
65. Sincerity, honesty, and respect...
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 07:31 PM
Jul 2015

I'm not a latina, but I, too, value those things.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
69. "The other speaker"
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 11:23 AM
Jul 2015

The whole point of a primary campaign is to differentiate the candidates in order to decide who gets our votes. That's a divisive process at its core, although it doesn't have to be as ugly as it gets.

I think it's interesting to note the candidate who did NOT appear.

At least "the other speaker" showed up.

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