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Related: About this forumObama's Donors FLOCKING To Bernie Sanders, Romney's Going To Rubio
This is an interesting find. The underlying article is from U.S. News, as is the graphic above, and underlying that is analysis by Crowdpac, a "San Francisco-based political data-mining firm which analyzed the July presidential campaign finance reports." There's a nice interactive graphic on their site if you're inclined to play with the data.
First, from the article; dKos diarist LieparDestin;
Obama's Donors Flocking To Sanders, Romney's Going To Rubio
Bernie Sanders is drawing more of Barack Obama's 2012 campaign donors than Hillary Clinton.
And Marco Rubio is scoring the biggest share of Mitt Romney's contributors thus far.
These are the findings of Crowdpac, a San Francisco-based political data-mining firm which analyzed the July presidential campaign finance reports.
The Vermont senator has already received contributions from 24,582 of Obama's donors; whereas Clinton has only tapped just over 9,000 of them. Martin O'Malley, the former Maryland governor, has grabbed 383 Obama donors.
That means Sanders has nabbed 72 percent of the 34,340 Obama donors who have given to a candidate in 2016, according to Crowdpac.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/07/18/1403390/-BNR-Bernie-Backs-Big-Bank-Breakup-Bill-Obama-Donors-Flock-To-Sanders
There's interesting analysis of donor moves on the Republican side as well, but I'll let you click to read it. I found this both fascinating and confirming: And then there's the surprising.
There's 276 Romney donors who have given to Sanders, and 280 who have given to Clinton.
And just to show the dizzying breadth of some people's choices, Crowdpac discovered that five contributors to Michele Bachmann one of the most conservative candidates in the 2012 GOP field sent money to Sanders, the self-avowed socialist.
http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/run-2016/2015/07/17/obamas-donors-flocking-to-sanders-romneys-going-to-rubio
Which leads to this set of thoughts... Is Sanders a Stronger Candidate in the General Election than Clinton? It's always been my sense that while Clinton would likely inspire Republicans to vote against her (not her fault, it's just that '90s history and the right-wing's ready hatred of what they presume is the Clintons' hippie past) Sanders would inspire Republicans to vote for him. After all, he's really talking the talk I personally hear from "tea party" voters all the time. Literally, all the time. (Ask any one of your right-wing relatives what she thinks of the bank bailout of 2008?) Put another way, if you're just into electoral strategizing, it's been my sense that to some degree, Clinton will depress the Democratic turnout relative to Sanders (because of all those Warren wing types who have had it with "TPP presidencies," to apply just one label); at the same time she will perhaps increase turnout against her (again, not her fault).
I suspect Sanders, on the other hand, would keep all of Clinton's voters in the general election (because, "Republicans!" don'tcha know) and pick up some Republicans that can't stomach the Trump or the Bush or the Bailout. Which leads me to two thoughts. One, let the Democratic candidates duke it out; that's why we have primaries. But make it a fair fight. After all, if Chuck SchumerDemocrats (the Wall Streetwing players who have power) do to Sanders what they do to almost all progressives and Clinton loses that lose is on them. And two, if I'm right, Sanders' more difficult battle is the Democratic primary, not the general election. Partly because Hillary Clinton is indeed a "formidable opponent" (in Stephen Colbert's formulation), and because of the above because the Chuck Schumers of the world may very well prefer to lose to an insider Republican (with whom they can deal on all issues related to money) than win with an anti-money Democrat. Watch out for that. The bipartisan Wall Street wing is not to be trusted.
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Obama's Donors FLOCKING To Bernie Sanders, Romney's Going To Rubio (Original Post)
Segami
Jul 2015
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Segami
(14,923 posts)1. "..July 29th is the most important day of the campaign so far:..
"....As a crush of millennials crowded into a brewery near Nationals Park on Thursday night, a young man setting up a loudspeaker for Sen. Bernie Sanders took the microphone. Testing. One. Two. Three. The political revolution is here.
The septuagenarian socialist who is disrupting the Democratic presidential race soon arrived and refined the message. The revolution is still coming, Sanders (I-Vt.) said. Hopefully on July 29.
On that Wednesday night, six months before the Iowa caucus, Sanders will livestream his case for the presidency to more than 1,500 simultaneous gatherings planned in bars, coffee shops and living rooms nationwide. The candidates address will be followed by an organizational meeting for anyone who wants to stay online and discuss joining his campaign...."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/bernie-sanders-says-july-29-is-the-most-important-day-of-his-campaign/2015/07/17/b20680e6-2c9f-11e5-a5ea-cf74396e59ec_story.html
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)2. Obama had 3.1 million individual donors. "Flocking" doesn't mean
what the writer thinks it means. The fact that they could only count a little over 30,000 donors should have been a red flag regarding this infographic.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)3. Very interesting info
thank you!