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lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 05:04 PM Jul 2015

NYT: Support for Bernie Sanders Is Deep but Narrow

Last edited Fri Jul 31, 2015, 05:52 PM - Edit history (1)

How did DemocratSinceBirth put it? IIRC, "His support is a mile deep, and inch wide".

ETA: I forgot to post the link. Sorry! Here it is:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/31/upshot/support-for-bernie-sanders-is-deep-but-narrow.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur

As many as 100,000 people attended house parties for Bernie Sanders on Wednesday in an extraordinary and perhaps unprecedented early demonstration of grass-roots support.

Although the tremendous turnout for Mr. Sanders was an impressive indication of the depth of his support among the Democratic Party’s liberal activists, it seems that his base of support is quite narrow.

An analysis of Mr. Sanders’s activist base shows that the turnout for Mr. Sanders was overwhelmingly concentrated in the country’s most liberal communities. There were actually more Sanders attendees in Portland, Ore., than in New Hampshire or Iowa. There was little or no activity in many nonwhite and conservative areas that possess the votes and delegates to decide the nomination.


Twelve congressional districts — all in Southern or nonwhite areas — had no Sanders events. There were no Sanders events in an overwhelmingly Democratic, minority-heavy district in New York City. There were no Sanders events in two heavily Hispanic congressional districts in California. There were no events in several congressional districts in Mississippi, Louisiana, Texas, North Carolina, Tennessee and Florida.

The analysis of the event attendance used data scraped off the Sanders campaign website. With the help of Jeremy Bowers, our colleague in the New York Times Washington bureau, we grabbed the ZIP code, county and state of Sanders events, including the number of people who RSVP’d online to each event. More than 100,000 people were registered to attend.

The pattern of Mr. Sanders’s support resembles Mr. Obama’s support from 2008, but with nearly no support from the black voters who decided that election in Mr. Obama’s favor.

Mr. Sanders’s challenge among nonwhite and conservative voters has been widely reported. But the geographic concentration of Mr. Sanders’s activist base is striking even in the context of those expectations. While more than a thousand people showed up to Sanders events in Seattle, San Francisco and Portland, Ore., there were equally populated Southern and nonwhite areas where there were no Sanders events at all. His top 15 congressional districts, each with at least 750 registered attendees, were all in Oregon, Washington, California — or Vermont. Next came Boulder, Colo.

The South was Mr. Sanders’s weakest region: Mississippi, Georgia, Louisiana and South Carolina all sat at the bottom of the list. The turnout for Mr. Sanders — measured by comparing the number of RSVPs with the number of Obama voters — was 12 times as great in Oregon as in Mississippi. There were more attendees in Washington than in the far larger state of Texas

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NYT: Support for Bernie Sanders Is Deep but Narrow (Original Post) lunamagica Jul 2015 OP
Who could predict turnout for a liberal would be highest in liberal areas? arcane1 Jul 2015 #1
+1 n/t Triana Jul 2015 #17
"Twelve congressional districts... had no Sanders events" winter is coming Jul 2015 #2
Seriously, that article is one of the biggest stretches I've seen so far. arcane1 Jul 2015 #14
And OMG, he didn't get many supporters in blood-red states. winter is coming Jul 2015 #15
Right? "The South was Mr. Sanders’s weakest region" as if that's unique to HIM arcane1 Jul 2015 #16
Uh oh. Everyone DUCK! beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #18
Mahalo lunamagica~ Cha Jul 2015 #3
Na'u ka hau'oli, Cha lunamagica Jul 2015 #6
Na'u ka hau'oli~ How nice.. had to look that one up.. Muchas Gracias, eh! Cha Jul 2015 #7
Por nada! lunamagica Jul 2015 #8
No. It is wide. RobertEarl Jul 2015 #4
To repeat myself, LWolf Jul 2015 #5
Always, always consider the source. Ron Green Jul 2015 #9
Well their view is narrow. And certainly not deep. nt silvershadow Jul 2015 #10
just so you know, that doesn't actually say anything to refute the OP Sheepshank Jul 2015 #11
Well, I have read the OP again, as well as my post. My post states my opinion, silvershadow Jul 2015 #12
You gotta love... HerbChestnut Jul 2015 #13
Talk about spin. Motown_Johnny Jul 2015 #19
 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
1. Who could predict turnout for a liberal would be highest in liberal areas?
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 05:07 PM
Jul 2015

12 districts, out of how many, had no events, thus there is no support for him. And comparing w/Obama voters makes zero sense

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
2. "Twelve congressional districts... had no Sanders events"
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 05:09 PM
Jul 2015

Does that mean that over four hundred congressional districts did have Sanders events? Because that's pretty impressive for a first attempt at a nationwide event.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
14. Seriously, that article is one of the biggest stretches I've seen so far.
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 07:01 PM
Jul 2015

It's basically saying "he's not 100% perfect therefore he's 100% imperfect".


Desperate times...

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
16. Right? "The South was Mr. Sanders’s weakest region" as if that's unique to HIM
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 07:06 PM
Jul 2015

Talk about playing a candidate's strengths against them.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
18. Uh oh. Everyone DUCK!
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 07:27 PM
Jul 2015

Incoming fact will burst bubbles!

And didn't HC supporters just declare the NYT was a right wing hit piece factory?


 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
4. No. It is wide.
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 05:20 PM
Jul 2015

For just coming out two months ago and seeking help from common people, it is an amazingly wide reception that will only grow and grow.

This is not a big money, run on fame, race. It is grassroots, the like of which has the PTB peeing themselves.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
5. To repeat myself,
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 05:24 PM
Jul 2015
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251482850

My response, # 9:

Interestingly, I do not live in a liberal community.

Yet, in my relatively small population area, the first house party was at capacity within a few hours of being posted, so they opened a second, which filled in a day, and then a third...

I think that support is broadening by the day.
 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
11. just so you know, that doesn't actually say anything to refute the OP
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 06:35 PM
Jul 2015

, but some love their clever little couplets...as if they had some depth to them.

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
12. Well, I have read the OP again, as well as my post. My post states my opinion,
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 06:50 PM
Jul 2015

and in fact, does refute their headline perfectly and accurately. *Note: I wasn't trying to refute the OP, as was in clear evidence.

 

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
13. You gotta love...
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 06:54 PM
Jul 2015

how they focus on the small handful of districts that didn't have any events rather than the vast majority that did. In other news, 3% of the scientific community is skeptical of human caused climate change, therefore it must not be real.

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