Not Good Enough, Bernie!

[MannyGoldstein]

We have officially entered Bizarro World. But I think that Americans have been assaulted badly enough, for enough years, that they're paying real attention and this ham-handed BS will backfire.

[BillZBubb]

1. Ham-handed B(ernie) S(anders)?

I don't understand your point????

[FlatBaroque]

2. Not all political ratfucking

ends well for the ratfuckers

[cherokeeprogressive]

33. You called Israelis "APES" today, and had a post hidden for it. Your credibility is about the same

as that of the scorpion asking the frog for a ride across the river.

Wow.

[FlatBaroque]

39. I did no such thing

and if the jury system is at all fair, your lilbelous post will be hidden.

[cherokeeprogressive]

54. So was this another "FlatBaroque"?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=7056382

[sabrina 1]

119. Looks like the poster was supporting our President against

a lobbying group trying to undermine his efforts for PEACE, to try to prevent WAR and sending OUR troops to die in that war.

The poster denies your claim, it is iffy though frankly I am with the President on this. How about you? Were you the alerter btw?

Americans are opposed to Aipac's attempts to drag this country into what would be a devastating war for this country.

Why would they want to do this? Good for President Obama for his firm stand against this war mongering lobbying group. They don't get to use OUR troops for their agenda whatever it is.

[cherokeeprogressive]

147. Yes I support President Obama in his efforts to avoid war at all costs, but with some trepidation.

I think I've pretty much made clear over the years my feelings about government acting in secret.

The hidden post isn't about me though, and no I am not the person who alerted on it. One of the people who thought it should be hidden sent the results to me.

When talking about AIPAC, let's be clear that we are talking about Israel and Israelis. A few minutes spent on the Google reveals dozens of instances where Iranian leaders and other Arabs have referred to Isrealis and Jews in general as monkeys, apes, pigs, and other animals. Mohamed Morsi, while President of Egypt, specifically called them "...these blood-suckers, who attack the Palestinians, these warmongers, the descendants of apes and pigs."

Any belief that AIPAC is the only lobbying group looking out for its own best interests before our government is indeed mistaken. Lobbying is the WORST thing about government at all levels but it's legal.

Given how Iranians and other Arabs refer to Jews and the state of Israel, I'm unshakable that it's no coincidence or mistake to call AIPAC "APE PAC". I feel he knew exactly what he was doing.

[bvar22]

154. BUSTED!

Nice Job.

[cherokeeprogressive]

77. APE got your tongue?

[NaturalHigh]

127. Yes, you did.

Disgusting.

[sabrina 1]

116. Link to that please, thank you!

[cherokeeprogressive]

117. There's a link to his hidden post in my post #54. n/t

[roguevalley]

3. twitter is mauling them. this is going to drive their cause into the ground.

social media is such a tidal wave, the people responsible probably underestimated the intensity of what would happen given what they did. Now they are finding out.

[MannyGoldstein]

4. Bernie allowed them to make fools of themselves

And there they are.

[roguevalley]

8. he did. I love bernie. someone is setting this up. If they don't belong to blm seattle

then they're operating on someone's nickel and we need to know who. they are blm's problem until they figure this out and set the record straight. targeting bernie alone smells to me.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

76. From what I have been told

BLM had not arranged for them to be on stage with Bernie. So yes someone else had organized this.

[Bohemianwriter]

97. Why not make a simple request directly from them?

Their contact details are right here.

http://blacklivesmatter.com/blog/

[sheshe2]

24. Such Fools. How dare they believe their lives matter.

Michael Brown, One Year Later

A lifetime since Ferguson's police department allowed Brown's bullet-ridden body to lay on Canfield Drive for three hours. Since a grand jury refused to indict Wilson, and a phalanx of police in military gear teargassed protestors and boxed them in with tanks. Since the world met Brown's parents and Jonathan Crawford III's girlfriend and Eric Garner's daughter and Sandra Bland's mom. It feels like a lifetime has passed since "Black lives matter"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027055033

Such fools, how dare they.

[GoneFishin]

28. All you got is a strawman. Nobody here said that but YOU.

[sheshe2]

30. Wrong.

[cherokeeprogressive]

35. A most eloquent rebuttal.

NOT.

[sheshe2]

80. I don't need to rebut.

The pictures say everything.

[cherokeeprogressive]

81. The pictures sure DO say everything, don't they?

Surely you remember posting this... when was it? The day after Bernie Sanders announced his candidacy? Yes, the pictures you post DO tell a story.

[sheshe2]

85. Sadly you never read the article.

[cherokeeprogressive]

86. And you know this how? Being offended at your wink wink picture means I didn't read the article?

Hardly.

The picture needed NO accompanying article but I read it anyway and thought it was tripe.

[sheshe2]

90. Lol~

Tripe, k...

[malokvale77]

111. Sadly we did...

That OP exposed you for what you are about.

[sheshe2]

112. sad....

you have no clue

BLM

Such Fools. How dare they believe their lives matter.

Michael Brown, One Year Later


A lifetime since Ferguson's police department allowed Brown's bullet-ridden body to lay on Canfield Drive for three hours. Since a grand jury refused to indict Wilson, and a phalanx of police in military gear teargassed protestors and boxed them in with tanks. Since the world met Brown's parents and Jonathan Crawford III's girlfriend and Eric Garner's daughter and Sandra Bland's mom. It feels like a lifetime has passed since "Black lives matter"





http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=502925

[arcane1]

152. They also idiotically used a rightwing source to try linking Sanders to a white supremacist militia

This poster seems to care about smearing progressives far more than they care about helping black people. They are not to be taken seriously.

[sheshe2]

155. Will you please post that link.

TIA. I missed it.

[PatrickforO]

145. No they don't because most of those people have nothing to do with the leadership or policy of

BLM. They are the oppressed people BLM purports to support. However, BLM is attacking the candidate who, if elected, will work the hardest and do the most for the African American community. What bothers me about this, what really SMELLS about this, is they are ONLY attacking Bernie.

That doesn't even make sense. Why not attack Trump, who has said Mexicans are rapists? Why not attack the rest of the Republican candidates? Why not disrupt the Republican debates? They are the ones who are embracing and fanning the flames of racism. Not Bernie. He's trying to put those flames out with some sound policies ALL OF US REALLY NEED TO HAVE BETTER LIVES.

And they are trying to screw up his campaign.

So, WHY sheshe? Why? Bernie has come out with points that BLM said they wanted, and has hired a young AA woman for his campaign. He's LISTENING and RESPONDING.

So WHY is the goalpost still moving? And WHY just for Bernie?

We ALL need Bernie, not just AA people.

Why?

[George II]

52. Do you even KNOW what a "strawman" is?

[sheshe2]

56. Thank you George.

[sheshe2]

69. Thank you George.

[George II]

75. I thought we came a long way over the decades, but your two pictures demonstrate there is SO much...

...more to do.

1950s: "I AM A MAN"
2015: "AM I NEXT?"

Sends a chill up my spine.

[sheshe2]

79. Yes...

and you know George, how dare they speak out.

How dare they want to live.

Yes, I get chills up my spine.

[ismnotwasm]

105. Exactly

This is NOW not 50 years ago. We have systems of institutionalized racism that no amount of "economic" justice would be able to touch. This systems go far back, are well studied and well documented. For anyone to say they do not exist anymore, or are not of utmost relevance to correcting these systems and patterns of injustice is disingenuous at best. Not only do I not understand that working ones way into that kind of thinking when one is a progressive, I reject it's very premise as a part of those very same institutionalized racist systems.

[peacebird]

29. Why do they only target Bernie? Looks very partisan since they don't attack any others events

THAT is the problem. If they were also grabbing the mic at R events, or Hillarys. Or potesting outside fundraisers, but no.

They attack Bernie calling him & his supporters white supremacist liberals from the stage today.

They are hurting their own cause

[glinda]

42. Because they mean to hurt HIS. This is targeted.

[WHEN CRABS ROAR]

44. Yeah, look at all that low hanging fruit

the GOP has to offer, almost limitless.

[sheshe2]

72. I suggest you go to the AA Group.

Ask your question there. They are a very kind and patient group. They will answer you.

[peacebird]

73. They can answer here. BLM is not targetting any other candidate, only Bernie.

Why is that?

[George II]

84. If you want "them" to answer, ask "them" in their group, okay?

[sheshe2]

110. We got crickets

My post below.

Crickets.

[artislife]

131. I had the impression

That we can read other groups, but if we don't belong, then we are not really encouraged to post. It is a sacred space. I read there from time to time, but I don't intrude on the dialog because it isn't mine. If I were to venture into the Hillary group, I also wouldn't post.
I have posted in the O'Malley group to see if we could both petition Hillary to more debates. I begged their pardon, never heard but they generally are a very easy going, civil group.

So why can't one ask here, where everyone is encouraged to participate. Not that I am going to ask the question, because I read what is said and I am a PoC, so I have some inkling to what is going on. Not completely, because my experience is in no way the same. I understand that.

But what happens on this site is shut down. From everyone. And it sucks.

I really am believing that we may have a republican president in 2016.

I signed up to volunteer tonight for Bernie, but if it doesn't happen, it might not happen for any of us here.

[sheshe2]

104. And you can ask them there.

What are you so afraid of.

They DO NOT need to come to you. You need to ask them and do it politely.

[sabrina 1]

136. I prefer to go directly to the source, which I have. DU doesn't represent

any group of people most of whom can and do speak for themselves as I have stated. So why would we ask DUers what OTHER people who are NOT DUers think?

[Live and Learn]

41. It is not the message. It is the tactics.

Poor tactics will foul a movement up quickly. If you lose support for the movement it will lay dormant for many more years. Is your dislike of Bernie actually worth losing support for Black Lives Matter?

[MannyGoldstein]

43. Hillary Clinton was instrumental in jailing incredible numbers of

black men. In fact, few Americans have had as much influence over Democratic policy in the past few decades as Clinton has, and by most accounts - including yours - things have gone very badly for Black Americans.

Yet Hillary's events don't get disrupted.

Do you see anything strange here?

[whatchamacallit]

50. How dare you "lecture"

[George II]

62. Did Hillary Clinton vote for the 1994 legislation as FIRST LADY??? No, but..........

.....then Representative Bernard Sanders did.

I'd say he was MUCH more instrumental than Hillary Clinton, you think?

[MannyGoldstein]

92. Hillary LOBBIED Liberal members of Congress to vote for the thing

All but on Democrat voted for it; Bernie might well have voted for it due to Hillary's work here, he obviously was not thrilled with the thing:

[George II]

96. Hillary Clinton didn't vote for it, Bernie Sanders did. Nice video, but.......

....then he voted for the legislation.

Are you saying he's indecisive and a waffler?

[MannyGoldstein]

101. LOL. She whipped votes for it, but had nothing to do with it.

You can do better than that, no?

[sheshe2]

113. Ferguson Burns.

Bernie needs to address this.

1 Year tomorrow. What will he say?

[MannyGoldstein]

115. I do expect that President Sanders will do more than what Obama and Holder did, which is:

[sheshe2]

120. Bernie is the President?

When was the election held?

Many here believe Hillary was crowned. Yikes, now Bernie has been?

Oh my~

[MannyGoldstein]

118. Moreover, I find it fascinating that you demand that Bernie address it,

but the candidate who extolled the virtues of cutting off lazy welfare recipients... I guess she has no similar obligation?

Never Enough, Bernie!

[SunSeeker]

123. Most welfare recipients are white. But you knew that. nt

[sheshe2]

125. Thank you!

[MannyGoldstein]

134. Blacks are more than twice as likely to be on welfare

and to be in poverty, e.g.,

Black People on Welfare: Let's Not Sugarcoat It

Did you seriously not know that?

[SunSeeker]

140. 69% of African Americans have NEVER been on welfare.

Http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/07/12/the-politics-and-demographics-of-food-stamp-recipients/

Your post implying African Americans are synonymous with "lazy welfare recipients" (your words not Hillary's) is offensive.

[MannyGoldstein]

146. Sorry, I was sarcastically riffing off Hillary's

Characterization of white people as hard-working.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/100763

[sheshe2]

124. When I googled that...

I got a RW site.

Please link your sources.

Lol. I will ask MADem to rebut. He rocks!

[MannyGoldstein]

135. LOL!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=504759

And, of course, you continue to only demand that Bernie address Ferguson, not Hillary. Totally transparent.

Never Good Enough, Bernie!

[grasswire]

130. why is Obama not asked to address this?

He can actually DO SOMETHING about it, now. No candidate can.

[malokvale77]

106. MHO...

She or he only cares about their own portfolio.

She or he doesn't care one bit about black lives.

Yup, kinda strange that the one advocate for all of us gets attacked.

[George II]

51. Really moving post...thank you.

[sheshe2]

126. George.

Thank you.

BLM!

[Arugula Latte]

53. I think Bernie Sanders agrees with you and is supportive of the cause.

Weird to target him when there are so many people who are actually hostile to BLM.

[R B Garr]

57. During the GOP debate, they asked about this "most important civil rights issue..

...of our time," which is young blacks being shot by law enforcement. So, even the GOP debates took this issue seriously. But here...the main issue is protecting Bernie's image. Nothing else matters.

[sheshe2]

65. BLM matter, thanks R B Garr

Here.







Black Lives Matter!!!



BLACK LIVES MATTER!

[totodeinhere]

121. We all agree that black lives matter. But why pick on Bernie? There is no

stronger advocate for that cause than Bernie. Meanwhile, we have HRC giving lip service to it now but during the 2008 primary campaign her husband made racist statements on her behalf in South Carolina.

So Bill Clinton declared that he’s not a racist this week. He said this in response to criticism over comments he made during the Democratic Primary, particularly after his wife, Hillary, lost to Barack Obama in South Carolina and he accused voters there of voting for Obama simply because he was black.

http://blacknews.com/news/is_bill_clinton_racist101.shtml#.VcbjyrW8BFo

[MannyGoldstein]

122. Because if you disagree with anything BLM says,

it's because you don't think that black lives matter.

The pictures serve as proof.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

139. You don't own Michael Brown, and the troublemakers from yesterday don't either.

You don't have the moral high ground with respect to race, and neither do the no-count losers from yesterday.

[arcane1]

151. Everyone knows the difference between a cause and a tactic. Even you.

I don't know why you continue to pretend otherwise

[Hydra]

7. It's really a surprise they were so obvious

A roadmap was practically laid out for them- challenge everyone, keep the message out there.

Instead they've managed to delegitimize themselves by taking a side.

[zentrum]

17. Especially to take the side...

….against the more progressive candidate. I really don't get it.

[Hydra]

21. Qui Bono

Someone benefited from aligning with the HRC campaign. The rest paid the cost.

[HooptieWagon]

36. Yep. Follow the money.

[bbgrunt]

38. I agree. Someone is being used, they need to figure it out.

[GoneFishin]

34. It's a Rovian tactic to attack an opponent's strength. Attacking Bernie for his 50 years of support

of minorities is absolutely fucking preposterous and would only be conceived of as a dirty scummy campaign tactic.

It the real world you are correct. It doesn't make sense given all of the racist bastards and apathetic corporatists they could choose to go after.

It's a campaign strategy. They have picked sides.

[jalan48]

45. You nailed it. This is exaclty what is going on. Swiftboating Bernie on civil rights.

[restorefreedom]

94. it is just like the bills during gw bush used to name that were completely opposite

remember "clear skies"?

it is the bizarro world trying to fool low info voters

[nikto]

70. Me, too

[SusanaMontana41]

103. Well, Bernie IS drawing the biggest crowds

and he doesn't hand-pick his audiences. Anybody and everybody can attend his rallies. That's a strength.

Keep doing what you're doing, Bernie. People are noticing.

[Babel_17]

142. Imo it was a question of tactics (which haven't worked worked as hoped for)

Imo the hope was that taking on Sanders and O'Malley would serve as the launching pad for larger, and wider spread, actions. It's like how the Unions would tackle the auto industry, get Chrysler to buckle, then take on Ford.

The Clinton campaign wasn't vulnerable to the resources available at that time to BLM. Imo their hope was that going after Sanders and O'Malley would result in a resounding success and that would give them the means to take on other venues so as to advance their message.

As sympathetic to their cause as everyone is, from the candidates, to their supporters, to event organizers, to the media, it was a case of them not being in the bag for their tactics.

I'm also guessing that the leadership couldn't agree on the timing to move on to different venues. And yes, that will be interesting to learn more of.

[George II]

67. I think you have a point...

...if you saw the video, one of the women was standing in front of the podium with her arm up and a security guy was staring RIGHT at her as Sanders walked to the podium. Security did nothing.

With all the conspiracy theories floated about this and other incidents, maybe HE was behind it to garner sympathy and a negative pushback on BLM?

[magical thyme]

83. Sanders doesn't need sympathy. But somebody could be trying to take out Sanders AND

delegitimize BLM at the same time. Kill 2 birds with one stone, so to speak.

[sheshe2]

91. Hmmm,

Interesting. Thanks George.

[malokvale77]

108. Wow

"maybe HE was behind it to garner sympathy..."

There's a classic right wing, idiotic, some people will buy anything explanation.

Could you be more obvious?

[senz]

12. + 1 Thank you.

[emsimon33]

78. They are merely puppets who do a terrible disservice to a very serious and timely cause

The ones in Seattle came across as little Valley Girl twits.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

102. Is it? GOOD.

I thought about venturing over, but I'm pissed off enough as it is.

[Depaysement]

5. Saul Alinsky says hello

Which candidate is acquainted with his tactics?

[Cosmic Kitten]

15. lol

[shenmue]

89. You're still pulling that?

Hubris will get you nowhere.

[rhett o rick]

6. Bernie is bringing out new voters. He has awaken a sleeping giant. I agree that the

efforts of Clinton and the billionaires to shut him down will backfire.

[roguevalley]

9. agreed

[WHEN CRABS ROAR]

60. Went to a farmers market today in Port Orford, OR (population 1200)

wearing a Bernie tee shirt, it created lots of positive interest and none of it negative.

[senz]

19. I wish I could be as positive as you, rhett o rick.

Do you have any idea how badly they want to silence his courageous, truth-telling voice? These guys play something way worse than hardball. If this tactic doesn't work, they'll find other means.

But if they do succeed in shutting him up ... there could be serious talk of revolution. But they've probably already thought of that and are prepared. I first heard of internment camps on American soil during the Iran-Contra hearings (Oliver North was overseeing the project). Then I heard about more of them being built during Dubya's administration -- as well as the army developing advanced crowd control techniques "for use overseas."

It does make one a little ... nervous ...

[okasha]

31. You have it all wrong. The RWNJ's claim they're Obama's camps.

[rhett o rick]

133. As I see it one has two choices. Fight for you freedoms and liberties against the odds,

or put you mind in neutral, vote for the Oligarchy, and hope like hell they will treat you nice. The Oligarch Billionaires have unlimited resources to neutralize those fighting for freedom. Look at those that have already been neutralized. I fear for Sen Sanders personal safety and that of his family. But the revolution has started. But it should continue to be peaceful. We can not become violent as that would be exactly what the Oligarchs want.

[senz]

144. Agree with you 100%.

Everything you said.

An interesting facet of this is the many, many righties who are hoarding guns (and food, etc.) in case "the government" comes after them. You've probably heard of them; their hero is the Ayn Randian character "John Galt." When they occasionally pop up on other message boards, I've tried to convince them that their guns cannot compete with the power that resides with the U.S. military and the oligarchs, that the U.S. is fully prepared to contain any insurrectionist outbursts. But they're living a macho fantasy and cannot be reached by reason. I hope they don't become a problem at some point in the future.

We are walking a fine line. Sometimes lately I'm thinking that Bernie may be our last chance. However, if these real life events were to follow the familiar plots one sees in fiction, as soon as Bernie becomes a real threat to the system, he would be eliminated by the Big Boys and become a martyr, which could start a more violent revolution. Life isn't fiction, but I hope Bernie, and all of us, can be "as wise as serpents" and manage this massive, necessary reform peacefully and craftily.

I really like your awareness level and level-headed approach, rhett o rick. I know this is heavy stuff, and I don't censor my own thoughts, but I try not to be a conspiracy theorist either. Anyway, we all have to have fun, regardless.

[rhett o rick]

148. I appreciate your kind words even if I am not sure how to take the "level-headed" comment.

I have never been accused of that. But I've learned a lot posting in DU and still have a lot to learn about dealing with those here (and in society) that think they can shut down conversations by ridicule and mockery. You see it's easy to be a bully when anonymous. And especially easy if one uses self-righteousness to justify their bully behavior. It is a real challenge to try to hang in and be "level-headed" when being baited into over-reacting.

Sen Sanders isn't our last chance to throw off the chains of tyranny that controls our government. He is just one in many that make up the Populist Movement that has the wealthy Oligarchs and their minions afraid. But we must be non-violent even when faced with the bait to be violent. As we've seen with OWS, the tyrants will be brutal, even to the non-violent. But violence would end what few freedoms we have left.

Conspiracy Theories are given a bad rap by those in control. They want everyone to trust them and not believe those that might not agree. Conspiracies are a part of life especially in government. It's the sole purpose of think tanks and Karl Rove makes a very good living conspiring. Wouldn't you love to know what he is up to now? Those that don't like open discussion are the ones that use the fear of CT to shut down discussions. They want to believe that their emperor has clothes.

[senz]

150. Lately, my definition of "level-headed" is anyone whose words

make me feel calmer, which your recent comments seem to have done.

Your insight into self-righteous bullies baiting people into overreacting applies to the BLM-Bernie situation and to the immediate situation here, very accurately. And yes I've noticed how some use "conspiracy theory" to shut down discussion. Just yesterday a Hillary supporter used the term in reference to BLM-Bernie. And yes, I sensed early on that all these well-funded rightwing think tanks were engaged in strategies to effect what is essentially oligarchy.

I'd imagine Karl Rove was laughing his fool head off yesterday. Hope I live long enough to see him get his (not that many of them ever do.)

Anyway, thanks. Am feeling blessed to have encountered some truly wise heads here at DU in a very short time.

[sheshe2]

128. Yup.

White male conservatives.

POC are screwed.

[Skittles]

10. looks like swooning isn't limited to presidents / candidates

[dreamnightwind]

11. Glad to see people waking up

It smelled wrong from the start, but such opinions have been ridiculed heavily here, and no coubt will continue to be.

I actually do care about the issues BLM supposedly cares about, a lot. But BLM seems to not care about any of the other issues, or candidates, that I care about, and they are apparently dead-set on undermining Sanders in favor of HRC. To hell with that.

[peacebird]

32. Yes.

[jalan48]

13. Unfortunately someone wants to pit the POC against the Progressives and it seems to be working.

[navarth]

66. this this this this this this THIS !!!

[SciDude]

129. Someone has already laid claim to those votes it would seem?

I don't know why BLM would single-out Bernie Sanders, of all candidates, makes little sense really... why go after your best potential ally?

[Puglover]

132. Yup and they

are spamming this thread with their idiotic horseshit.

And all but about 20 DU posters see right through it.

[wezl]

153. BINGO

Exactly right.

[Cosmic Kitten]

14. Is ham handed kosher?

Is ham handed kosher?

[senz]

16. It makes me ill that they're being used this way.

BLM has been a beautiful movement, a perfect response to the constant racism that is grinding Black people down and killing their young.

I hope BLM's leadership wakes up and sees clearly who really is in their corner -- and who is not.

[zentrum]

18. ^This^

[daleanime]

22. Amen.....

[magical thyme]

82. exactly.

[JEB]

149. Agree whole heartedly. nt

[passiveporcupine]

20. They say Bernie is not talking about their issues

Funny how they won't let him talk about anything, even their issues. It's like they don't really want to hear what he has to say...eh?

So far both events they've disrupted have been events where the discussion topic was already set up, and it wasn't up to Bernie to choose it. This last one was supposed to be about Social Security and Medicare (Medicaid?). So why do they expect him to switch to the BLM topic at a preset event about SS? Oh wait...they don't. They won't even let him talk to find out what he is going to say.

[HereSince1628]

25. Their missoin was disruption, disruption doesn't involve listening.

If they targeted the -entire- political process they might make a difference.

But they don't. There's meaning in that absence.

I can't say what the meaning is yet, but I expect that will become apparent over time.

[nikto]

71. Good thinking

My mind is working in a similar pattern as yours.

Something is going on here ...

[glinda]

47. That is the plan it looks like.

[onehandle]

23. What?

Rails. Off of. Yes indeed.

[cali]

68. had they done this to HRC I would be just as opposed

It was inexcusable and hugely damaging to blm. They need white liberals as allies and calling them white supremacists is no way to keep those allies or attract them.

[magical thyme]

87. I was against them for doing it to O'Malley. I'm not going to hold my breath waiting

for them to do it to Hillary. I can't help but believe that she'll somehow be exempt.
I don't think she is directly behind it, but I wouldn't be surprised to learn it was funded by one or another of her supporters.

[punguin54]

26. My wife and I wore our Bernie shirts in a very red state today. the results were very encouraging.

We live in north Idaho, surrounded by Obama hating Teabillies but instead of getting the reaction I expected (dirty looks, rude comments, maybe a bullet? ). I had people, young people, tell me that they hope he wins! I was very encouraged by that and intend to spread the Bernie message even more now.

[glinda]

48. Remind them to give money!

[Person 2713]

64. And vote!

[glinda]

74. Need both!

[boomer55]

27. So why don't the blm people target the repukes who are a bigger problem?

[GoneFishin]

37. They have taken sides in the primary. It's a campaign strategy.

It's the only explanation that makes sense. Once that is understood, all of the answers becomes obvious.

[Evergreen Emerald]

40. Because Bernie is the only one without security.

They would never reach the stage. The republicans would have tackled them and had them arrested.

[glinda]

49. Exactly.

[whatchamacallit]

55. This is bullshit

Many rallies and events have been disrupted from the audience. They haven't shown the slightest interest in protesting Hillary. There's no security on Twitter. It's obvious what this is really all about.

[Evergreen Emerald]

59. You seem a bit angry at my thoughts whatcamacallit

Disrupted from the audience does not keep them safe from security.

I am sorry that you are so angry that you would swear at me.

[V0ltairesGh0st]

63. and through it all

Bernie has reacted to it with style and grace, as long as he does that HE wins and BLM look like the obnoxious fools they were tonight. Bernie would condemn this happening to ANY other candidate...... Why does he not get the same respect he deserves from HRC?

[truebrit71]

46. That's the sixty four thousand dollar question isn't it?

Why not go after those in power NOW, you know, like the black president for instance, instead of some old white guy?

[zeemike]

58. When I heard there was a hash tag BowDownBernie

I think that says it all for me. Bisarro world indeed.

[Billsmile]

61. I think This Will Work Out Well...

The Sanders campaign will take proper steps to bring the cause of Black Lives Matter to the fore & at the same time the campaign will garner respect from the the African American community.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

88. The BLM movement has suffered a major setback as a result of this BS....

They have bought into the lie that Bernie is the choice of white people.

[SusanCalvin]

93. I still say

That we don't even know who "they" is.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

95. True. "They" could be THEM.

[SusanCalvin]

99. Heh.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pogo_(comic_strip)

[HereSince1628]

137. Well, they've unfortunately stepped back to the first step in activism which is "Notice Us!"

They already were noticed.

A sizeable majority of the American people for almost 2 years have supported BLM's in calling for justice.

Obama set up a commission to look into the bias of police violence against black lives. That wouldn't have happened without broad political support.

Yesterday's Bow Down Bernie protest didn't achieve anything other than to take Seattle back to "Notice Us".

Well, Seattle and America noticed them. Having stepped backward to achieve that, I gotta wonder if BLM in Seattle is going to get beyond being just a disruptive force?

[Spitfire of ATJ]

143. There's another post somewhere here that claims a Hillary connection...

I don't believe the actual Hillary campaign ordered it but it's possible an over zealous Hillary supporter within BLM could make a bad decision.

[world wide wally]

98. I see both sides here being STUPID

And STUPID is what Republicans count on

[postatomic]

100. Shhhhh.....

You need to be careful when flinging about wild accusations like that.

[sabrina 1]

107. It already has backfired. This is not the Dean Scream era. People now have

a powerful tool to counter these Rovian tactics.

The general consensus is that these attacks on the ONLY candidate who ever stood up for Civil Rights for AAs, are coming from the Hillary/Third Way campaign.

Let them keep doing it, it is helping Bernie and adverserly affecting Hillary.

[malokvale77]

109. People know...

"The general consensus is that these attacks on the ONLY candidate who ever stood up for Civil Rights for AAs, are coming from the Hillary/Third Way campaign."

That's what I am hearing.

[dsc]

138. you know those flatlanders

always complaining about one insignificant thing or another.

[Babel_17]

141. Your threads generate some amazing replies

It's like a tradition!