So let me get this straight... Bernie has the strongest

[MannyGoldstein]

record on civil rights, by far, of any presidential candidate, yet Bernie is being targeted for attack by civil rights activists.

Sounds like a great plan to encourage candidates to fight for civil rights, no?

(She's a Sarah Palin supporter? You don't say? Well sign me up!)

[Cleita]

1. Classic KKKarl Rove tactic it seems but I don't see Dicky Cheney's

love child behind the curtain on this...yet.

[merrily]

3. His tactics seem different to me.

Putting Constitutional amendments on the ballot to ensure religious turn out, rumors, push polling, vote caging--things like that.

[Cleita]

7. It's attacking him on his strengths to make it look like a weakness. That's KKKarl's M/O

It doesn't mean that there isn't a copy cat who has added some tricks of his own.

[merrily]

10. I think that's a tactic that goes back centuries. I could be wrong.

[Cleita]

19. Machiavellian comes to mind.

[merrily]

23. I was thinking Chinese military, but I am not seeing it in the wiki so far.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty-Six_Stratagems

Forbes has a version, too.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ericjackson/2014/05/23/sun-tzus-33-best-pieces-of-leadership-advice/

It's a lot of deception, doing what the enemy least expects, etc., so you could extrapolate from that. In the Forbes version, this may come close, but it's not quite there: "If of high morale, depress them."

[JackInGreen]

26. A prince among men

[Enthusiast]

91. You are not wrong.

[merrily]

92. Good to know! Thanks.

[840high]

37. or some tricks of her own

[sabrina 1]

29. Yes, definitely and it was obvious from the beginning. So glad to see it exposed

so fast. Unlike the Swift Boating of Kerry. The lie was allowed to fester with no pushback for too long. The dirty tricksters, note they were all 'veterans' and considered by the dirty tricksters to be unassailable due to the atmosphere at the time.

Same old garbage. Attack someone's strength, then USE whatever 'props' are needed to give it legitimacy and that will make it hard for 'liberals' to fight back.


So to 'get' liberals, use the race card, because you know, they will try to defend themselves etc etc. Use veterans, because they dare not attack veterans or risk looking like they are anti military heroes etc etc.

This whole thing was a classic Rovian dirty trick and we should never, ever go on the defensive against LIES and deceptions. Kerry lost and Dean too because liberals didn't act quickly enough. But there was no real internet back then.

And we were far less aware of these despicable tactics. Times have changed since then, thankfully.

[FreakinDJ]

2. KK KARL Rove or PUMA - take your pick

[R B Garr]

74. "KK KARL Rove or PUMA"

Just trying to keep track of the name calling. The Bernie PUB's are the biggest name callers around, but let someone dare to call you a name (white supremacist liberals), and it is epic meltdown time.

[bahrbearian]

4. Stop it or I'm going to vote for Hillary.

"When I align myself with a candidate and pledge support for that candidate, I am aligning myself with that candidate's supporters. " So stop it cause I will.

[MannyGoldstein]

6. Not Sarah Palin?

Wouldn't that be the logical choice?

[Jack Rabbit]

24. No, it wouldn't be the logical choice

First of all, there is nothing logical Sarah Palin.

Second, she is incapable of thinking of anything that clever.

[merrily]

9. What does that even mean?

[bahrbearian]

20. I got here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251507197

[merrily]

21. I know, but what does it mean? Let's take 2008.

How many million supporters did Obama have? How many million supporters did Hillary have?

By choosing one of them, you were aligned with all those millions of people? Why?

When did this become the rule of voting for someone?

[bahrbearian]

25. I don't know , it could be human nature.

It's kinda knee jerk. Thats why I like Bernie . consistent

[merrily]

30. Or, it could not make sense. Or, it could make so much sense that I cannot grasp it.

[George II]

52. Bingo - the latter.

[merrily]

55. Yeah, that's it. That's the ticket!

[George II]

56. Happy to help.

[dgibby]

77. About the same time MM tacked his manifesto to the DU wall? n/t

[merrily]

85. Oh, jeez, a manifesto?

[dgibby]

93. Well, that's what I called it.

Maybe "thesis" would be more descriptive. Pontificating about why he's decided to drop Bernie in favor of Hillary, as if anyone cares. Evidently, he can't support Bernie because of his supporters. Guess PUMA doesn't count in his book.

[merrily]

94. Oh, that I assumed he was with Hillary all along.

Posting since 2004, but I don't think I've ever seen anyone post in such detail about himself, his activities, his thought processses, etc.

Most often I just skip to other kinds of posts. But the signs that his declaration of support for Hillary would be coming sooner or later have been there for such a long time that I felt I had to at least glance at it.

[dgibby]

97. Just about everyone

who responded thought he was for Hillary all along, too.

[merrily]

100. In this campaign at DU, there have been two factions I don't understand and, for a change,

It's perfectly okay with me that I don't understand.

One is the "Bernie is my candidate, but (insert here some disparaging or dismissive comment).

The other is "Bernie is my primary candidate, period full stop." However, "I' just happen post article after article praising Hillary, defend Hillary against all comers, and pretty much ignore Bernie--except, of course, to keep repeating that he is my candidate.


Neither of those sets of performances fooled anyone. They did provide some comic relief to Bernie's supporters. Other than that, I am not sure what the point was. But, one by one after the other, the performances have been ending. Still a few more to go. I look forward to them.

Eventually, will they all say they support Hillary, or will some claim to be Bernie's supporters until the primaries end? When will they out themselves? Will they also attribute their "change" of mind about whom should run the nation because of "Bernie's supporters" in social media? Or will they come up with something else? We can only wait and see. I won't be holding my breath, but I will probably be mildly amused when it happens. I have been so far.

[Maedhros]

102. I can explain the first one.

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Those people are like the friend that accompanied me to the Sanders rally in Portland on Sunday.

He likes to think of himself as a diehard Liberal, so he goes through the motions - he joins the protests, attends the rallies, rails against Republicans on his blog, etc.

When the rubber hits the road he's a defeatist and a political coward, and not all that Liberal.

All he could do was sneer at Occupy because the camps became gathering places for the homeless. He has told me in no uncertain terms that the political system cannot change, our slide from republic to empire cannot be stopped, and all politicians are hypocrites, therefore the best we can do is try to run out the clock so at least he can get his Social Security. He chides me for being an idealist, and considers himself the more knowledgeable pragmatist. When I press him on his logical fallacies, he always falls back on "All I know is that I hate the Republicans!" as his reasoning. He's the perfect tool of the Third Way, having swallowed their propaganda hook, line, and sinker.

(He has also spent much effort trying to convince me that arranged marriages are superior to the "fad" of romantic love, and keeps pestering me to go "rescue" a foreign bride from the third world. Yeah, what a "liberal.&quot

But he flies the Bernie flag to trick himself into thinking he's not a Conservative.

[merrily]

106. Good points. In general, I do see a tendency here to post in the way that requires nothing.

Blaming corporations leaves you nothing to do, unless you have enough money to buy a controlling interest. Blaming the politicians who sell out to them and pass laws that enable them, however, means you might be able to do something. So, blame the corporations.

Blaming Republicans and only Republicans leaves you nothing to do, as well. What's a Democrat to do about the Republican party besides mock or complain or devolve into helpless frustration and anger? If you see problems in your own party, though, well, maybe there is something you, as a Democrat, can do about that. So, blame Republicans and only Republicans.

Saying Democrats got pwned (allegedly) by Republicans because Democrats as a breed are fearful, too polite, etc. also leaves you nothing to do, unless maybe you have a map of the route to Oz. Saying it's D.C. kabuki however, may leave you with (gasp) course of action.

I am not saying that is everyone's way of posting, but it does seem to be the default for some. I think there is some of what you say in the scenarios I described. So, I get your great observations and insights about your friend. I think, too, that people just like to be comfortable. A lot of deviation from the status quo--even very positive change/deviation--apparently is a stress on our bodies/existence. Death of a spouse and marriage register about the same on our emotional/physical Richter scales.

However, in some cases, I just smelled an effort to convince readers of something that the poster knew to be bs from the jump.

[Maedhros]

108. Oh, there is definitely a lot of bullshit flying around DU.

Much of it masquerading as "support" for Bernie.

[beam me up scottie]

116. !

That wall's getting awfully crowded.

[notadmblnd]

80. dejavu

[Hydra]

5. It's kinda scary what we are supposed to believe from Team Clinton

I'd like to see their comments as Symone gets more airtime. I thin they'll be something along the lines of "You can't take those minority votes from Hillary! She needs them!!"

[Bobbie Jo]

8. Says the Ronald Reagan supporter?

You don't say?

Once again...

This is more about the vicious reaction on the part of his supporters. Taking to the internets to rip these people to shreds hasn't gone unnoticed or unforgotten.

Bernie will deal with this if some of his supporters would just get the hell out of his way.

You're not helping...

[MannyGoldstein]

11. I'm a Ronald Reagan supporter?

LOL!

No, but I know someone who might be...

[Bobbie Jo]

15. Yawn

Pretty confident the president never voted for him.

How bout you?

[merrily]

12. I, too, wish Manny would stop preventing Sanders from taking care of things.

This stuff is hilarious.

[MannyGoldstein]

14. I got 'im in a headlock

in my dungeon.

Good times!

[merrily]

16. That does it! I've finally had it with your obstructionist ass.

Get the fuck out of the way and let the man run for President, ffs!

eta:

[Cosmic Kitten]

13. Which people are you speaking about?

This is more about the vicious reaction on the part of his supporters. Taking to the internets to rip these people to shreds hasn't gone unnoticed or unforgotten.

Who exactly are you referencing by saying these people"?

[SMC22307]

18. The Sarah Palin-supporting Seattle #BLM loudmouth?

That's just one people, though.

[Cosmic Kitten]

22. Right? Let's allow Bobbie Jo answer

We don't want to put words in her mouth!

I mean, she could be referring to
the Bernie bashers?
They are ripping Bernie to shreds???

Maybe she's referring to the protesters that
called a city and many of it's residents racists?

Dunno, but we need Bobbi Jo to speak for herself.
Otherwise, it looks like baseless accusations


I just hope Bobbie Jo isn't being intentionally divisive

[Bobbie Jo]

28. No, I just don't care much for you

but if you need a frame of reference, start here:

http://m.dailykos.com/story/2015/07/22/1404615/-A-black-woman-s-negative-encounter-with-a-Sanders-supporter-after-NN15-BlackLivesMatter-protest


http://www.eclectablog.com/2015/07/guest-post-a-perspective-of-the-netroots-nation-blacklivesmatter-protest-from-a-person-of-color.html

btw...I'm not intimidated by your bully tactics. I didn't reply to you initially on purpose. Take it elsewhere...

[Cosmic Kitten]

36. Bully tactics? Take it elsewhere?

You are invited to express yourself
to avoid misunderstandings...
and you call that "bullying"


I don't need a frame of reference.
Just tell us who "these people" are to which you refer.

This is more about the vicious reaction on the part of his supporters. Taking to the internets to rip these people to shreds hasn't gone unnoticed or unforgotten.

You give two links
But still haven't identified "these people"
who are being viciously ripped to shreds?

Can you be SPECIFIC or is this baseless accusations?
Looks like simple divisiveness so far

[MannyGoldstein]

42. If you don't know the answer

Then YOU are the problem.

Or some such thing.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

64. I don't remember Hillary supporters being like this....

Oh wait.

Yes I do.

[dgibby]

78. Where's Karnac when you need him? n/t

[jfern]

107. How do we know those aren't made up?

Marissa Johnson made up that Sanders tried to get physical with her when he was just trying to shake her hand. Many are willing to lie to try to take down Sanders.

[SMC22307]

60. Ahem, "white supremacist liberals."

Get it straight, woman! Woman? Man? With the micro-aggrieved around here, one has to be careful.

[Cosmic Kitten]

88. micro-aggrieved, I like that term....

but...
isn't that just re-branding single-issue voters

[SMC22307]

117. Hmm, not sure. I first heard it around the time a black college student...

attended some sort of music festival (EDM?) and felt unsafe amongst all the lily-whites sportin' dreads. Not sure what other issues she has besides... hair.

[George II]

57. That's horse shit and everyone who parrots that garbage knows it.

[SMC22307]

61. Sarah Palin-supporting Seattle #BLM loudmouth.

With a twist of fundie.

It is what it is.

[George II]

62. Where? I know it's been bandied about, but based on what, a single sentence on facebook?

[SMC22307]

65. Read the Facebook pages like the rest of us. Palin, Tea Party, all sorts of goodies!

And one of her little groups, Outside Agitators 206, wants to "declare war on the Democratic Party.“ Do *you* want to declare war on the Democratic Party? Seems they've skipped down the right-wing path of blaming Dems for "keeping blacks on the plantation." Why is this woman being lauded on a Democratic message board? Because she drinks white tears?

[noiretextatique]

95. Funny how this enemy of the Democratic Party

Gets so much attention and support, given her stance on the Democratic party. But rest assured, I have been told that she has "evolved" and her position is "nuanced."

[merrily]

113. I personally await a Trump Palin ticket. It could steal the flat out nuts vote, though.

[noiretextatique]

120. I would love that for the comedic value alone!

Tina Fey would have a field day!

[SMC22307]

118. I must have missed those threads...

this White Supremacist Liberal has a day job and doesn't get to play on DU nearly as much as I'd like.

"Evolved" and "nuanced."

[noiretextatique]

119. A friend told me this on Facebook

In response to my suspicions about her sincerity. She said she had evovled from her teabagger patents (to be fair, she was still a child then), and had developed a more nuanced position. Whathefuckever.

[R B Garr]

75. "BLM loudmouth"

Just trying to keep track of the name calling. The Bernie PUB's are the biggest name callers around, but let someone dare to call you a name (white supremacist liberals), and it is epic meltdown time.

[haikugal]

101. Stop trying so hard.... nt

[SMC22307]

115. Well, it appears to be two names called by you (PUB and WSL)...

and one from me (BLM loudmouth). Guess you win.

[SMC22307]

17. You mean the audience didn't like being called "white supremacist liberals"?

Quelle surprise!

[George II]

32. What were the exact words used when they were called "white supremacist liberals"?

[MannyGoldstein]

35. "white supremacist liberals"

were the exact words.

[840high]

41. lol - shit I just snorted my coffee out my nose

[George II]

43. That wasn't the entire sentence or context. Wanna give it another try?

[MannyGoldstein]

48. I answered the question you asked.

Is there a different question you'd like to ask?

[George II]

50. I already asked it above. You know that's not what they said so you're unable to respond...

...without having to acknowledge that they did NOT call the crowd "white supremacist liberals".

[MannyGoldstein]

51. Take it up with the local news coverage, then

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Bernie-Sanders-unable-to-address-crowd-after-Black-Lives-Matter-activist-interrupt-Seattle-Westlake-rally-321146281.html?mobile=y

Do you have an alternative version?

[George II]

54. This:

http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/black-lives-matter-protesters-shut-down-bernie-sanders-rally/

[merrily]

59. "accusing the audience of “white supremacist liberalism.”

gee, another huge help. You're on a roll.

[Hydra]

44. *Bwah!*

Walked right into that he did...

[SMC22307]

63. LOL Cripes, I scared the cat.

Has anyone even bothered to watch the video?!

[R B Garr]

58. Thank you! It's funny that being an ex-Republican is okay,

and Bernie is not even a Democrat, but that's fine. There's even a Ross Perot voter in the phony purity brigade, but a young teen in high school is branded for life because she once had a button on her backpack.

You are right about Sander's supporters alienating people. They are making quite the name for themselves, and it's not helping him.

[merrily]

68. Actually, at this point, Bernie is a Democrat.

The DNC has recognized him as such, as has the Vermont Democratic Party.

Vermont has no party registration. At any given time, one is what one declares oneself to be. And Bernie has declared he is running as a Democrat.

[R B Garr]

71. "At any given time, one is what one declares oneself to be."

No shit, but apparently that same freedom is not given young AA's with Palin backpack buttons back in high school.

Yet after 50 years, everyone has to clear the decks because Bernie declared he now wants to use the Democratic party since running as an Independent/Socialist is an obvious loser.

[merrily]

86. wtf? When did I deny freedom to women with backpacks?

You want to give her freedom, but not Sanders. I give them both freedom. You're the only one with the double standards here, not I. Sanders, however, was never a Republican or a Palin fan. His principles have also been consistent.

Besides, please let's not pretend that people's objections to her arose because she changed parties. Or that all sectors of DU were so okay with changing parties when it came to Warren running.

"No shit?" No, not no shit, but plenty of bs, because people keep posting he is not a Democrat. People who are not Democrats don't get an ok from the DNC and Vermont Democratic Party.

As far as clearing decks after 50 years, that is Grade B horse puckey, not even Grade A.

Sanders has been in Congress since 1991 and working with and for Democrats all along. He founded the Progressive Caucus and Democrats elected him their chair for 8 years. Democrats in the Senate, including Schumer, considered him such an asset that they refused to support any Democrat running against him. Do try to let that sink in. Also, when head of the DNC, Dean also considered Sanders a huge asset to the Party. Democrats in Vermont made him their nominee, even though he ran as Indie.

After 24 years of considering him a leader and an asset, Democrats in Vermont and the DNC recognized his right to run for President as a Democrat. Why in hell should the assessment of a bunch of message board posters be given more weight than their assessments?

And, if Bernie is such an obvious loser, why are so many Hillary fans so very butt hurt about his run? Focus on your candidate.

And now, I will leave you to have a really great day.

[noiretextatique]

96. Bernie's beliefs have not evolved from Palin supporter

To supposed radical, and stated enemy of the Democratic Party. Your comparison fails.

[AllyCat]

27. And don't respond to an open letter to your ilk or you'll get banned.

Nonetheless, I believe Bernie will continue to fight for all because that's the kind of leader he is.

[George II]

31. We keep hearing about this spectacular record on civil rights, but....

....the highlight is that he marched with MLK 50+ years ago.

And the protester is NOT a "Sarah Palin supporter"! I've asked several times where that came from, all I get is a single sentence on a Facebook page.

At least Saturday's event got Bernie to come up with a "civil rights agenda", for what it's worth.

[merrily]

69. LOL!

[dgibby]

82. If you think that's the highlight, then you're sadly uninformed.

Try checking his voting record.

[George II]

87. That's all we ever hear about.

Don't forget, he did vote against the "Brady Bill" and FOR the 1994 "Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act".

[Supersedeas]

112. for what it's worth

[retrowire]

33. guys, this is old news already.

the media barely even blipped it on their radar after 2 days and now we're in the midst of a 27,000 in attendance kind of rally in LA.

which BTW, he allowed BLM to open for him. Bernie is more gracious than I ever imagined.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/128035694

[Cosmic Kitten]

38. MSM ignoring Bernie has an up and a downside apparently

[retrowire]

46. yep trump distracts people from more than just republican antics

n/t

[Maedhros]

103. That article is inaccurate, though.

The writer mistakenly believed Symone Sanders to be a BLM representative, rather than Bernie's national press secretary. Ms. Sanders is a BLM activist, but she was not acting in that capacity at the rally.

There's a whole post by a pro-Hillary person deriding us all for lying about this, so I thought I'd point it out.

[retrowire]

104. ah thank you n/t

[Vincardog]

34. Actually the poor dear is a member of agenda 26. The goal is to make Black people choose between

The BLM movement and the Democratic party. They want all the bad blood possible.
They are acting like Black Tea Baggers. That is what we should call them.

[MrMickeysMom]

53. I'd rather just call them out for who they are...

fascists… If it makes a better distinction, I'll go along with those who remind us, fascism knows no color boundaries.

Black fascists. They are about as stupid as all the other fascist sell-outs being all caught up in the Jeebus movement. It's an odd extreme left meets extreme right movement. Better they should have a bowel movement.

[R B Garr]

76. "black fascists"

Just trying to keep track of the name calling. The Bernie PUB's are the biggest name callers around, but let someone dare to call you a name (white supremacist liberals), and it is epic meltdown time.

You stepped it up a bit here about the bowel movement -- classy.

[MrMickeysMom]

110. It isn't name calling… it's calling out what these interlopers really were...

Here's a news flash for you… providing that you can be convinced by real reference.

There are people parading around this country saying they are someone when they are not. Here's what the REAL BLM movement thinks about these people, who in my view are nothing more than fascists, and, by the way, who were black. Yes… there is such a phenomena, so stop trying to insist that I've decided to call people names and that it was stepping it up a bit by saying that their whole idea should be flushed down the toilet, as the bowel movement it is… BECAUSE it is NOT BLM.

For your better understanding, see what the real BLM think about these same interlopers, who owe an apology.

Read it here: http://www.politicususa.com/2015/08/10/real-black-lives-matter-wsnts-activists-publicly-apologize-bernie-sanders.html

You just kill me with the false argument that calling something that is bad is name calling, because they did something really, really bad to Bernie Sanders. They are without a doubt put up by some bigger fascists… who are white and who's last names rhyme with "bloke".

[R B Garr]

72. "Black Tea Baggers. That is what we should call them"

Just trying to keep track of the name calling. The Bernie PUB's are the biggest name callers around, but let someone dare to call you a name (white supremacist liberals), and it is epic meltdown time.

[Vincardog]

98. Their tactics are the same. Name one factual error in my post.

Calling us "White Supremacist Liberals" makes as much sense as "Fascists Liberals".
But continue with your nonsense, let the adults attempt to save the country from the fascists.
Nonsense is trying to sabotage the political revolution.

[MrMickeysMom]

111. Tell me something...

What's worse… being a tea-bagger or being driven as part of a fascist movement and therefore, a fascist?

Tea bagger may be driven by the same money, so one can make a good argument saying they fit into both courts.

Either way, if anyone stands up against these rotten liars, then we are the name callers. The degree of that foolishness is stunning.

Inform yourself.

[AlbertCat]

39. Don't post this in a certain group! You'll get banned!

And I don't mean the Hillary Group.

[MannyGoldstein]

40. I got banned by AA today

Is that it?

[Hydra]

47. Let me guess...you said 2 words in there?

I saw someone post something inflammatory and then ban anyone who dared come in and contradict. Cute tactic.

[Cosmic Kitten]

89. You been alert-stalked!!!11!11

It epidemic around here!
Ohhsnoes!

[SoapBox]

45. Thumbs up, Manny.

Black lives do matter...but these recent antics do not.

[WillyT]

49. K & R !!! - Hey !!! - Did You See This:

DULink: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251509001

[MannyGoldstein]

67. A subway election!

Thanks for the heads up, WillyT!!!

[WillyT]

70. Anytime...

[MoveIt]

66. Bernie Sanders piss off all the third way shills here?

That's unpossible!

[R B Garr]

73. "third way shills"

Just trying to keep track of the name calling. The Bernie PUB's are the biggest name callers around, but let someone dare to call you a name (white supremacist liberals), and it is epic meltdown time.

[dgibby]

79. You have a very annoying habit

of repeating yourself. Guess if that's all you got, you gotta stick with it.

[R B Garr]

81. The name calling is what is annoying. That it's all over this thread

is the exact point I was trying to make, so thanks for noticing.

[dgibby]

83. You're welcome.

Too bad you don't apply the same standards to Hillary's supporters.

[R B Garr]

84. I haven't seen Hillary supporters savaging young AA's over trivial

and embarrassingly inane nonissues such as those in this thread, though, so....

[Enthusiast]

90. Manny, it's damned curious that's all I can say.

[kenfrequed]

99. Hmm..

Maybe, or maybe the events Sanders attends are open events because he is trusting and believes in open discussion and democracy and is against caged, managed, "free speech zone" bullshit.

It is possible that in some of these cases the BLM people are just trying to get camera time anyway they can and maybe they don't care about the candidates at all.

Of course the recent Seattle thing is probably a bit different as one of them was a fundamentalist Christian that previously supported Palin.

[apnu]

105. I think Bernie is the only one they can get to right now.

Hillary isn't going around the country having rallies that give BLM or other activists, the opportunity to do their thing. Bernie is the only guy they have to play with.

And the GOP, of course, won't let them within a mile of any rally. Plus what's the point of disrupting them? Political theater? We all know they aren't sympathetic to #BlackLivesMatter.

But with Bernie at least, positive things are happening. Clearly he listens, clearly he takes it seriously, and clearly he's got a response and a plan. Bernie is dragging the conversation left, and BLM people are dragging racial justice into the mix. Its all good, as far as I'm concerned.

[John Poet]

109. THIS is OLD NEWS--- Can't we Move On now? eom

[beam me up scottie]

114. But it's HIS fault he was called a white supremist, Manny.

At least according to some on DU. Obviously they know what's in Bernie's heart.

All those decades spent fighting for civil rights?

Pfft!

A clever ruse.

Marissa's on it, though.

She seems well informed.