Howard Dean: Open letter to progressives: You’re doing it wrong and it’ll cost the Democratic Party

[SonderWoman]

Tweet: https://mobile.twitter.com/GovHowardDean/status/631132698082430976

Link: http://m.dailykos.com/story/2015/08/10/1410719/-Open-letter-to-progressives-You-re-doing-it-wrong-and-it-ll-cost-the-Democratic-Party

[Cali_Democrat]

1. Under the bus you go, Howard Dean

The white progressives criticizing BLM know best.

[cali]

37. as I've been informing you all for years

Dean is not a progressive. He's socially fairly liberal, and an economic conservative. His battles with liberals and progs in the legislature were epic. I like him anyway. Unlike you, I don't throw people under the bus with mad abandon. I don't make shit up habitually either.

[roguevalley]

49. mr dean has an opinion. he expressed it. its up to us to prove him wrong. he is wrong. since

when did libs become the enemy? Fuck corporate rat bastards. I don't include Dean. I like him too much but he is wrong.

[Stuart G]

80. DEAN did NOT.write this ,he agrees, BUT he is not author, HEADLINE MISLEADING!!!!!

I have studied misleading and lying advertisments for 50 years....Most people seeing this are mislead..they just respond to the OP. again, you must read first 10 posts to understand this, there is a big difference.............
You must hit the links to see it was not DEAN BUT SOMEONE ELSE.....that is very important..
agreement is not authorship....

MOST OF US DID NOT DO THIS.....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Mnpaul]

108. The correct title would be

poster at kos: Open letter to progressives: You’re doing it wrong and it’ll cost the Democratic Party

[AgingAmerican]

107. Except he didn't write a letter

And he didn't say that.

[Matt_in_STL]

2. The headline is inaccurate

Howard Dean did not write the article on Daily Kos, he merely tweeted it in agreement. Perhaps giving the original author the credit instead of using Dr. Dean's name to push an agenda would be better?

[SonderWoman]

6. Underneath tweet he writes "exactly right".

Which is a clear endorsement.

[carolinayellowdog]

7. endorsement is not authorship

so the header is fraudulent

[Matt_in_STL]

8. You didn't read my post

Your headline implies he wrote it, not that he agrees with it. If it said "agrees" I have no issue. However, you failed to credit from the actual author to make a misguided point. Not cool, especially since the author put quite a bit of their own self and work into that diary.

[George II]

83. The headline is an exact quote from HOWARD DEAN! That appeared before the link the article.

[Matt_in_STL]

85. The headline is the title of the article, and not written by Dean.

It shows in Dr. Dean's Twitter post because he posted the article, with the title. He did not write the article and giving the impression he did is disingenuous at best. It would have been honest to say he noted agreement with the article or to post his actual comments in regards to the article, but that is not what happened. As such, it gives the appearance that he wrote the article and does not give appropriate credit to the person who actually did.

[samsingh]

86. very misleading headline.

[uponit7771]

87. Syntax ... Dean is right

[Number23]

97. Thanks for that clarification. Dean retweeting that is still amazing news. Not that it will penetrat

the bubble here.

[TM99]

3. Incorrect headline.

Dean is Tweeting a DailyKos Diary. This is not an open letter from Dean.

You might want to correct that before we discuss the letter itself.

[Cali_Democrat]

5. The headline is fine

Howard Dean is simply retweeting a Kos diary.

The people who click on the links will get it.

How about addressing the substance of the article?

[TM99]

10. No it is not.

The headline implies authorship and not endorsement.

[Sheepshank]

18. ...therefore the message is bunk?

yeah....good luck with that strategy for dismissing Howard Dean's intent with getting a message across.

[TM99]

21. Am I a white supremacist for disagreeing

with one particularly inappropriate expression of rage?

[Sheepshank]

23. I see you are employing the "make up shit" tactic

You may search for my labelling of anyone in that manner, if you wish to waste your time.

[TM99]

26. You support this particular Seattle protester

do you not?

So try again. Do you or don't you?

[JackInGreen]

38. Tm...I'm as pissed as you are about that shit

But no matter who we're arguing with let's not draw that card out of the deck no matter how tempting. I know the two of us havent agreed with sheep much on this but until it's actually implied at the time let's not do that. Please?

[TM99]

42. I understand where you are coming from.

Right now, I am getting a little irritated that some white Clinton supporters are telling me a bi-racial Sanders supporter that I am x, y, or z for not approving of the bullying and abusive tactics that occurred in Seattle.

That is my bigger point. Minorities are not a monolith. We do not all agree as one with a Borg-like hive mind. Therefore not all BLM activists are worthy of respect either. Support the movement and call out bad behavior at the same time. Walk and chew gum.

But some here are attempting to score cheap political shots. That pisses me off.

[JackInGreen]

45. I feel ye

I'm a hippy white boy with a black girlfriend, so I feel that rage and hate the cheap shots I've seen. Sheep didn't go there then though. Let's keep that coal for a real fight.

[TM99]

46. Fair enough.

[JackInGreen]

48. Thanks XD

[George II]

84. Seven people disagree:

On Tue Aug 11, 2015, 05:41 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Howard Dean: Open letter to progressives: You’re doing it wrong and it’ll cost the Democratic Party

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251510821

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Post is terribly misleading,,,implies clearly that Dean wrote the letter, when he did not write it . It is inappropriate because it is dishonest. Dean did not write it, but that is the clear impression. In effect, it is a lie...OP is totally giving wrong impression of who wrote this original comment

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Tue Aug 11, 2015, 05:48 PM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I got that Dr Dean didn't write this article. The article is pretty brutal...not for the thin-skinned people that don't know/don't want to know that there are people out there with that opinion. No hide. Agree or disagree with the article in the thread with discussion.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: It is pointed out, many times, in the thread that Dean tweeted this letter but did not author it. That seems sufficient to me in correcting any misperception.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Stupid alert! Here's the content of the FIRST link in the post:

"Howard Dean: Open letter to progressives: You're doing it wrong and it'll cost the Democratic Party" - Dean CLEARLY WROTE THE TWEET!

Not misleading, not dishonest, not inappropriate.

Terrible alert.

Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE

Explanation: There is nothing wrong with this OP. The person who alerted on this OP has an agenda to silence anyone who has a different opinion than theirs.

[Cha]

92. Jury Results.. 7-0 LEAVE! BS supporters trying to spin this are wasting their time, again.

Mahalo, George!

[TM99]

103. So a jury won't lock the thread?

Still doesn't mean that the post was appropriately worded.

But you might be smart enough to get that if you weren't always desperately trying to score points.

[George II]

104. NO....the thread won't be locked...now, are you finished trying to score points yourself?

Seven out of seven found it fine and the wording was appropriate.

[TM99]

112. Oh, I am sure seven found it fine.

Compare that to the many more than seven that did not.

It is a disingenuous thread title, and it is not surprising in the least that you support it.

[Cha]

117. Passed an ol DU Jury with Flying Colors but the BS supporters are still trying in vain

to discredit the headline because.. what?!

They sure know how to waste time.

Dean Tweets the link " Open letter to progressives: You’re doing it wrong and it’ll cost the Democratic Party"

And, they can't handle it. Anyone who Tweets knows what's going on. No reason to play obtuse except deflection.

#BlackLivesMatter.

[AgingAmerican]

110. Juries don't police headline accuracy

nt

[Cali_Democrat]

4. My favorite part:

Now white progressives, this is important: You don’t hold the moral high ground. You don’t get to decide the strategy of an oppressed group. Not everything is about you. And every time you talked about your frustration at being momentarily inconvenienced by Black Lives Matter, you show how white supremacy is benefitting you.

------

Boom!

It is indeed about white supremacy.

[TM99]

9. So am I a white supremacist because

I disagree?

Think carefully before you respond.

[Matt_in_STL]

13. According to the link, yes you are

"Posting that you don’t understand the strategy behind a tactic exposes you as clinging to white supremacy. Allies don’t decide the strategy of an oppressed group, they support the strategy said group develops. Period."

Unless you fully go along with the strategy they have come up with then you are, as such, a white supremacist. I fully support them in their decision to disrupt and cause mayhem. I live in St. Louis and disruption has been a great way to get the message across.

However, I disagree with physical assault and I disagree with the target of the disruption. That, evidently, makes me a white supremacist.

[TM99]

15. I agree with you.

[RBInMaine]

52. I do not agree with that kind of disruption, and I sure as hell am NOT a "white supremacist."

[jeff47]

11. Because claiming all "white progressives" are white supremacists is a winning strategy.

Yeah, let's go with that and see how well it works.

[PoutrageFatigue]

67. Right?

[AgingAmerican]

113. That and throwing stink bombs

Genius electioneering at work

[Skwmom]

25. So are the Black Americans who disagree with BLM white supremacists?

[AgingAmerican]

114. Apparently so

But white Hillary supporters are not.

[Martin Eden]

28. "momentarily inconvenienced"

Sorry, no.

Legitimate criticism is based on the damage being done to the cause of the BLM movement and to social/economic justice for the 99%.

A wedge is being driven between allies on the Left. Whatever the intent, the effect is divide & concur -- benefitting the Republican Party and those who would take our country backwards not forwards.

[AuntPatsy]

31. Agree completely, it's more than obvious

[cali]

39. people who are using the tragedy of the loss of lives for political games and to score

points, are despicable; the lowest of the low. People who run around calling others white supremacists, when they have zero basis to do so, deserve nothing but contempt.

[arcane1]

58. They're not using the tragedy, they are straight-up exploiting it.

Remember the rightwing hack last month that used the phrase "national socialist" to describe Sanders? This is the natural, inevitable phase 2 of that process.

[cali]

61. thanks. you are right.

[RBInMaine]

51. No. The writer is mixing apples with oranges. Being frustrated with RUDE and WRONG

behavior is NOT about "white supremacy" benefiting anyone. This stuff about needing to "take over white space" is bigoted and radical. It is the WRONG approach because they aren't differentiating. Why aren't they holding their OWN rallies and inviting people of all races to attend? Why aren't they organizing powerfully to work the political system for criminal justice system reform at all levels of government? If they did this, they would certainly make headway. Their tactics are off base, and they are looking at everything strictly according to skin color. Bernie's skin may be white, but he has been a very progressive ally of the civil rights movement for generations. They're alienating natural allies. THEY are looking at this through a ONE-SIDED lens. They need to open their eyes and minds wider.

[bobbobbins01]

60. Taking that to its logical conclusion

If they decide the best strategy is to bomb buildings, you have to go along with it or you're a white supremacist. I wonder if people even spend one moment thinking critically before they write things like this. Demanding unabashed approval for all deeds executed under the guise of Black Lives Matter is just ridiculous.

[Armstead]

70. She contrdicts her own damn statement - Hypocitical bullshit

Right above that she writes this:
"Making your problem the entire country’s problem is how social movements have advanced time and time again. Illustrating the moral dilemma is what makes the crisis real to those not directly affected or purposely obtuse. Being uncomfortable is the catalyst to moving this country forward. "

So she's basically saying -- It's okay for BLM to "make your problem the whole country's problem" BUT for "white progressives" it's "not everything is about you."

What transparently hypocritical bullshit. Not even subtly hypocritical.

[aikoaiko]

81. When black audience members asked BLM to quiet down at Obama's Selma speech...

...was that white surpremacy, too?

You love this controversy because it keeps the sunlight off of HRC.

[snagglepuss]

102. /\/\/\ THIS /\/\/\

[Cha]

93. They'll never understand that.. pity, too. Mahalo Cali

"Now white progressives, this is important: You don’t hold the moral high ground. You don’t get to decide the strategy of an oppressed group. Not everything is about you. And every time you talked about your frustration at being momentarily inconvenienced by Black Lives Matter, you show how white supremacy is benefitting you."

[Number23]

98. Hell yeah. Boom indeed!

[snagglepuss]

99. The stupid is strong in that one. Who's holding a gun to anyone's head and demanding

BLM listens or else? Talk about clutching a straws.

[AgingAmerican]

111. Are you a white supremacist?

???

[99th_Monkey]

12. Apparently Dean's new-found fondness for the Oligarchy knows no bounds.

Now he's insinuating that Bernie Sanders is somehow
a 'white supremacist'?

Just wow.

[Romulox]

19. Nothing new: Dean "a moderate at best on social issues and a clear conservative on fiscal issues."

After seven years as governor, the Associated Press described Dean as "a moderate at best on social issues and a clear conservative on fiscal issues." The news service added: "This is, after all, the governor who has at times tried to cut benefits for the aged, blind and disabled, whose No. 1 priority is a balanced budget."

When Dean officially announced his presidential campaign on June 23, some news stories identified him with the left. It’s a case of mistaken identity. "He’s really a classic Rockefeller Republican — a fiscal conservative and social liberal," according to University of Vermont political scientist Garrison Nelson.

http://fair.org/media-beat-column/tilting-democrats-in-the-presidential-race/

[99th_Monkey]

50. That's kinda new to me

I had always taken Dean to be mod-to-liberal?

Interesting .. thanks for the link.

I must say Dean did a great job of selling himself as a liberal populist ...
and why did he get Dean-screamed by the Establishment if he's so conservative?

[Hydra]

95. Probably because of the Anti-war thing

Most of the backstabbing we got from our party at the time(and still are, funny enough) revolved around protecting the Bushes and their wars and their police state apparatus.

Dean probably looked more liberal than he was simply because he didn't agree with the major policies running back then. He might even have wanted to do something about the economic issues in an FDR like fashion, but we're way past where that might actually help now.

[Recursion]

109. He got angry on television, and that was enough for a lot of people

[m-lekktor]

90. I never understood why anybody ever thought he was a leftie.

maybe back then , compared to Bush and with a little wishful thinking, he seemed like one.

[One of the 99]

119. Neither did I.

He was a life long republican and only became a Democrat to run for governor. And was the most conservative Democratic governors in the country.

[m-lekktor]

120. it was "the emperor has no clothes" for me in regards to him.

I felt the same about Wes Clark but that is a story for another day.

[aikoaiko]

14. Now that Howard Dean has #bowdownHowie to HRC with his endorsement, this tweet is not surprising.

I get it. All these early endorsements will help with jobs, appointments, consultantships, and other benefits if people can keep hammering Sanders and his supporters.

They are playing the odds. The good thing about people like Dean is that they'll support Bernie if he can get his numbers up. They're commitment is not strong.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

16. I think Howard Dean has "jumped the shark" on this one.

[jfern]

75. This is much worse than the Scream

That's for sure.

[AtomicKitten]

17. "Surrender, progressives. You are damaging the coronation."

https://twitter.com/slow_bern/status/581278472934326274

[azmom]

20. [phone]

Bernie is the people's candidate.

Latinos love Bernie!!!

[CharlotteVale]

27. [phone]

[artislife]

76. !Claro que si!

[99th_Monkey]

54. Love that tweet

Just today I was feeling so disheartened by the BLM travesty, and the
fact that if M$M covers Bernie at all, it's ONLY to show him being shouted
down, shoved, etc by young black women 'disrupters'.

Anyways, I was just feeling so down about all this crap, I was feeling like
giving up, and that Bernie should too. Maybe this nation is so fucked up by
now, it doesn't deserve Bernie as POTUS. .. or some such BS self-talk.

So this tweet from Bernie has 'made my day' as they say. Thanks so much
for posting it. i took a screen-shot for next time I'm feeling discouraged
about Bernie's candidacy.

[AtomicKitten]

66. .

[Doctor_J]

64. "we'll keep abortion legal, and that should be plenty for you"

[Skwmom]

22. So how does Howard Dean now all of those online posters were progressives?

And what exactly has the corporate "moderate" wing of the Democratic Party done for Black Americans?

Is BLM being used for political purposes? Without a doubt but it's not the progressives doing the using.

There were plenty of Black Americans online and offline who disagreed with the tactics of BLM in regards to Sanders.

As far as Howard Dean goes - there is a reason they dusted him off and put him back on the MMM (Manipulate the Masses Media).

They are trying to silence the outrage against the Oligarchy.

The Corporatist Wing of the Democratic Party is the ones who will destroy the Democratic Party.

[R B Garr]

56. Probably because you can't tell the progressives from the RW bigots/racists.

When the comments section of a Yahoo article have so-called progressives who are self-described Bernie supporters sounding exactly like RW bigots who are just there to gratuitously insult black people, that's a clue that something is wrong. When will you people get that what you are doing here is being noticed far and wide, and obviously it is offensive.

[Doctor_J]

24. The democratic party doesn't want progressives any more, so this is a moot point

[frylock]

35. But they're more than happy to scapegoat them for the failure to elect their shit candidates.

[Doctor_J]

65. of course

That's our only remaining function

[artislife]

77. Yup nt

[Historic NY]

105. Thats funny ...

why isn't there a progressive party then????? Or better yet a PU.

[Armstead]

29. I like Howard Dean, but shame on him for this one

He's an open supporter of Hillary. And adding to this phony division over this trumped-up issue by endorsing is political opportunism at its worst. (And that column is attacking the so-called condescension of Sanders supporters with its own form of condescension.)

WHO's hurting the Democratic Party by spreading this innuendo that Sanders supporters are opposed to addressing black voters concerns?

[restorefreedom]

91. apparently he has become a company man

damm, i am gonna have to change my sig line!

[earthside]

30. More self-immolating tripe.

"And thanks to Sanders’ supporters, we are seeing that the Democratic Party cares more for our votes than our humanity."

I am astonished that anyone could write that and not be a Tea Party extremist.

Bernie Sanders and the most progressive elements in the Democratic Party have the least concern for the humanity of anyone?

This kind of stupidity will cost the Democrats and the vast, vast majority of African-Americans for sure -- because this is pure President Cruz propaganda.

[StandingInLeftField]

32. What a load of tripe.

I don't like tripe.

[Stuart G]

79. Most People here....ARE MISLEAD...DEAN DID ....NOT ....WRITE THIS.(please read my post)

I have studied misleading and lying advertisments for 50 years....Most people seeing this are mislead..they just respond to the OP. again, you must read first 10 posts to understand this, and then link to the links to see it was not DEAN BUT SOMEONE ELSE...

MOST OF US DID NOT DO THIS.....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mmonk]

33. The truth is more important than what people say or the accusations

they hurl or the surrender of positions due to optics or a desire to be loved.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

34. Well, isn't that supposedly the whole point of the protests?

That the Democratic Party HAS been simply taking black votes and voters for granted and not doing squat for them? Nice of Dr Dean to have this 'come to Jesus' moment now that he's no longer actually in politics in a place to do anything about it, and not back in the day when he was head of the DNC and spent his time caring about black voting rights just to elect more Democrats.

Heck, look at the wording there - he still is caring about 'costing the Democratic Party', not actually about doing what's right for black people.

[cali]

41. clearly, for certain groups,

the problem is simply Bernie and his supporters, not there could possibly be any agenda.

[frylock]

36. Maybe progressives should just sit this election out..

The Very Sensible People have this thing handled.

[Cosmic Kitten]

40. If we are denied a fair primary...

many may just do that, sit it out

[cali]

43. anyone who thinks this primary is a.fair one, is living in.a fantasy world.

[Cosmic Kitten]

47. Right? 6 debates?

Just trying to give the DNC the benefit of doubt.

I pity the backlash once Bernie has a million
people mobilized and the DNC/Party screws
his chances, or worse denies him his rightful place

That would crush the democratic party's credibility...
for a real long time

[dgibby]

62. Well,

I was going to vote for Hillary if she won the primary, but since so many of her followers have aligned themselves with people who have aligned themselves with anti-semites, I'm going to have to think long and hard about that. Maybe MM is right about not being able to support a candidate because of his/her supporters. Maybe instead of supporting her, I'll just write Bernie's name in if it comes to that. Seems to me that's only fair.

[Cosmic Kitten]

63. Indeed, it's a sticky wicket.

[Change has come]

118. It's still very early in the process...

perhaps voting 'against' Ted Cruz will become much more palatable.

[dgibby]

121. I'll vote for her if she's the candidate.

I was trying to point out to those who have decided not to vote for Bernie because of his supporters just how that would work in reverse. If it's fair to treat Bernie like that, then it's equally fair to treat Hillary like that. Personally, I don't think it's fair to treat any candidate like that, but there are some here who see nothing wrong with it.

[SonderWoman]

57. It's threats like those that vindicate BLM.

Your candidate winning is all that really matters.

[frylock]

68. It wasn't a threat..

it was an observation.

[sibelian]

74. Said vindication may end up feeling a little hollow on election day

... I'd suggest.

[aikoaiko]

82. OMG, you made me hurt myself laughing.

[AgingAmerican]

116. 'Winning is all that matters"

Or in your case, coronation is all that matters.

[LWolf]

44. While there are some good points here,

making "white supremacy," all about "Sander's supporters," is pure bullshit. THAT'S the kind of politics the author referred to here:

"This election isn’t as important as Black Lives Matter." The statement is correct. It's NOT as important. So why the focus on one candidate, and that one candidate's supporters?

I agree with the rest of this article. And I'm a Sanders supporter. But if it's true that "the Democratic Party cares more for our votes than our humanity," then talk about the Democratic Party, and the failings of ALL the candidates and voters.

The failure to do so diminishes the message, and I think it's an important message. I will stand in solidarity with the author of this piece in any action that isn't about attacking one group of voters and one candidate. If BLM doesn't want that, I don't think I'm standing in the way.

[HassleCat]

53. Of course it's wrong

Because it doesn't adhere to exactly what I want. It's all about me.

[magicmama]

55. No Dean, you're doing it wrong.

Dean, you endorsed Clinton *WAY* too early, and now you're just suffering the consequences of being a Clinton surrogate.

Now bugger off, Dean, or I'll look for my foamy cluebat and chase you with it.

[Babel_17]

59. He out and out endorsed Secretary Clinton? If so, that's context for his statement

OK, I just googled and December 10, 2014 is the day his endorsement was reported. Yeah, he's all in, and early.

[JI7]

69. actually election night 2012 he was asked about the future

And Clinton and said if she runs he will be supporting her

[Babel_17]

72. Thanks for that information (nt)

[snagglepuss]

100. lol Thanks for the laugh and you bang on that he endorsed her too early.

Welcome to DU.

[HereSince1628]

71. Hey Howard....AAAARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!

You had your opportunity, we'll take ours.

Thanks Anyway.

Say Hi to the Hillary for me

[jfern]

73. Dean has lost his mind

If he thinks that divisive diary is a good idea. If you don't support having some crazy liar shutdown Sanders events, you're a white supremacist liberal? That will cost the Democratic party.

[Stuart G]

78. Howard Dean did NOT, he DID NOT ..write letter, just he AGREES with it..headline wrong, very wrong!

Almost everyone will think, because it is not clear...that Howard wrote it, not that he agreed with it...

This is misleading....In order to understand this, one would have to read the first 10 posts, which many do not do. So, it is misleading...If the OP had stated, that Dean Agrees with this..it would have been truthful otherwise...this is clearly
misleading...just look at the responses.

[Oilwellian]

88. Dishonest post from a newbie

Hmmmm. I smell an agenda.

[Hydra]

96. And a jury excused it

Facts? What are those?

Oh, wait...if we had those, certain people would be in trouble.

[Cha]

89. Howard Dean is Tweeting the link to "you're doing it wrong and it'll cost the Dem Party".. and

BS supporters can't handle it so they try and smear the messenger.

Mahalo SonderWoman

[Armstead]

94. How is one supposed to do it "right" when one is being attacked?

[BuelahWitch]

101. Hey Howard, two words: John Kerry

Hope he didn't write this, but if he did, it makes me sad and angry to think his memory is so short to forget the 2004 "coronation" of John Kerry, our war hero candidate who was supposed to beat GWB so badly. I guess wearing a "kick me" sign on his back is well worth it if the Clintons hold out a carrot for a potential job in a Hillary White House.

[AgingAmerican]

106. He didn't say that and he wrote no letter

Keep digging

[Cha]

115. It's a Dean Tweet Recommending the article .. Why is that so hard for BS Supporters to understand?

Do they think it's helping Bernie to try and smear messengers because the message hurts their sensibilities?

[Stuart G]

122. I admit that I was mislead by the title of the OP. Here is why and why I said what I wrote.

At first glance, it looks like Dean wrote the article.
Perhaps the punctuation is misleading, or it is internet lingo..I do not know but,
I was honestly mislead to thinking Dean wrote the article. I want to say, I did not care what was in it, as much as I thought he wrote it. Now, you might say I am lying...No..I thought Dean wrote it...He did not....

. perhaps, I should have known the punctuation was a tweet.:......I did not know that

when I hit the links, it was not Dean who wrote it, but someone else...that is what I thought was misleading..so I said that.


In this matter, I did not care what was in the letter, just that ..Dean did not write it..that I did not understand the so called "tweet language" and punctuation...I thought Dean wrote the letter, but he did not, just that he agreed with it.
. If the headline had said, Dean agrees with this letter, then, I would have stayed away, so what?
..... but I wanted to know what Dean wrote, and he did not write the letter....

I guess I was wrong to think that, but I was mislead... now again...

My intent was not to put down Dean, not to put down Hillary. It was to say, that I thought Dean wrote the letter, and he did not. I was mislead, by the headline, and some others were too. that is all. This is pretty ugly and I have been called names..ok.,but for me it is about the two lines above, not supporting or putting down anyone. thanks to anyone reading this..
I hope you believe me, it is the truth.. that is what this response is about...
thank you again, .... .Stuart...