It's still looking good for Hillary...polled as most electable

[Sheepshank]

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-democratic-primary-voters-see-hillary-clinton-as-most-electable/

By Sarah Dutton, Jennifer De Pinto, Anthony Salvanto, and Fred Backus

Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton holds a wide lead in the Democratic contest for the nomination, receiving 58 percent of Democratic primary voters' support. Senator Bernie Sanders is second, with 17 percent. Vice President Joe Biden, who has not yet announced whether he is running for president, receives support from 11 percent of Democratic primary voters.

When asked which candidate is their second choice for the nomination, 42 percent choose Joe Biden.

[Iliyah]

1. K & R

[postatomic]

2. Best chance of winning in November 2016

Clinton: 78%
Biden: 11%
Sanders: 5%

These numbers are from this poll. Interesting that Biden, who isn't an "official" candidate, is polling better than Sanders.

Yea, I know. People just don't know Sanders yet.

[leftynyc]

4. While I expect this to be ignored

or mocked by some on DU, I will happily kick this news up.

[Dawgs]

11. Nice. Speaking for everyone in a particular group you're not a member of is very classy. n/t

[hill2016]

13. isn't this true?

if there's good polling data that comes out: look! Bernie's going to sweep Iowa and New Hampshire.

if there's bad polling data that comes out: we're six months before the primary. the debates haven't even begun. Bernie will rocket after the debates.

[brooklynite]

18. ...and you forgot the always popular "meaningless name recognition"

[Dawgs]

21. I'm a better supporter and I've never said Bernie was going to sweep Iowa and New Hampshire.

Or that he will "rocket after the debates". And, I haven't heard many people say either of those things. Some yes, but that's probably only a few.

No different than many Hillary fans saying that she's "inevitable".

So no, we're not all exactly the same.

[virtualobserver]

27. now that you mention it, Bernie is looking good in Iowa and NH

If he wins both, His momentum will increase.

[FloridaBlues]

30. PPP poll Iowa yesterday HRC 52% bern25%. 27% points ahead

Not looking too good.

[virtualobserver]

34. the primary is many months away

[dgibby]

44. MSNBC reported today

that Bernie is only 6 points behind Hillary in NH.

[Flying Squirrel]

20. Aaaand here are the jury results

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service
On Tue Aug 11, 2015, 12:05 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Bernie supporters
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=511034

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Divisive group attack.

JURY RESULTS

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Tue Aug 11, 2015, 12:19 PM, and the Jury voted 4-3 to HIDE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Broadbrush attack
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Feelin the bern, can't see facts, guess I'll just have to hide this post even though I know it's not wirth a hide.
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Smearing groups
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Rude
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

---

Interesting that those who voted to leave it gave no explanation while those who hid it all gave a reason.. Good stuff

[Godhumor]

40. Except one of those comments explicitly stated it wasn't worth the hide

But was going to do so anyways because he or she was feeling the Bern. That's a good use of jury duty right there.

[Flying Squirrel]

41. Jury nullification is a thing

And if you ever read the ATA forum, you'll note that Skinner is fully aware that it happens and seems to be completely fine with it.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12598186

[Sheepshank]

45. it's what jurors who are Bernie supporters do...crap over any Dem that doesn't think like they do

Their service has nothing to do with trying to enforece ToS. Juror #3 should be banned from all future juries.

And no one will be able to tell me otherwise

[Flying Squirrel]

54. The TOS is not usually the criteria for the jury system

And, as noted above, Skinner has no problem with this. Your beef is not with Juror #3, it's with Skinner. The system as currently designed is meant to allow jury nullification - I'm a Bernie supporter so that means if I'm a juror, the system currently is in my favor. But I have not always been in the majority and at some future time I will not be in the majority, so the system will not always be in my favor. So by definition the system is not fair, it's mob rule. Sorry to hear that you're currently on the 'wrong' side, but again your animosity toward Juror #3 is misplaced.

[George II]

46. WTF? "I'll just have to hide this post even though I know it's not wirth a hide."

If it's not wirth (sic) a hide then WHY THE FUCK HIDE IT????

This juror should be disqualified from future juries - clearly he/she doesn't understand the process.

[Gothmog]

5. This is some interesting polling

[MBplayer]

7. Anyone have access to page 4 and 5?

Scribt wants me to pay to see. TIA

[mmonk]

8. .

[frylock]

9. John Kerry was deemed electable as well.

Those were some good times.

[John Poet]

51. Oh yeah! With Kerry, WE CAN'T LOSE!!!

Nobody ever had a chance after Iowa that year. Kerry won practically everywhere else.

But in December that year, he was practically nowhere. He came on very late, his swiftboat veterans coming in for him was worth a few million dollars...

[Dawgs]

10. Great news for those that are happy with the status quo. n/t

[el_bryanto]

23. Which seems to be a significant portion of DU. Depressing. nt

[Dawgs]

24. I'm confused. Are you saying Hillary supporters are significant portion of DU?

Sorry. Can't tell what you mean.

[el_bryanto]

25. Yes. not the majority, I don't think, but significant.

[Dawgs]

26. Got it. Definitely not majority on DU, but all Democrats for sure.

And, that is truly scary.

[ericson00]

14. watch other such polls come out, but Quinnipiac Polls

be the outliers, and all Sanders types go nuts over it, despite its oversampling of Republicans. And its not just with Clinton.

[Lil Missy]

15. A 41 point lead over second place. n/t

[Cal33]

16. We still have 15 months to Nov. 2016. Bernie is still an unknown to the majority of Democrats. I

wonder what the polls will look like 6 months from now at the rate of progress he is
making today.`

[Stuckinthebush]

17. No he isn't

He is well known. The bump or Bern we've seen is that bump from those Dems who don't know him. He may rise slightly more but he will not make up the massive gap.

I like him and an glad he's in the race because it pushes the progressive message. Perhaps Hillary will choose him as the vp.

[Dawgs]

22. I doubt Bernie would want to be VP of someone that supports TPP and Keystone? n/t

[Stuckinthebush]

32. Please

He'd jump at that role. The chance to be part of the administration at suck a high level would be hard to pass up. He's smart. He'd do it.

[Dawgs]

33. What does "at suck a high level" mean?

And, no he wouldn't.

[Stuckinthebush]

37. He would

And he should.

[Dawgs]

39. It would be totally out of his character, so probably not. n/t

[John Poet]

50. "suck a high level"--- Freudian slip, perhaps?

LOL

[Dawgs]

52. LOL!

Good catch.

[Dawgs]

28. And, he's not well know at all.

Most people don't follow politics until the presidential election gets close. Every DUer should know that by now.

[Stuckinthebush]

31. Likely Dem primary voters

Know him. They watch CNN, MSNBC or listen to NPR. He's all over those outlets.

[Dawgs]

35. LOL! Uh, first of all, he's not "all over those outlets".

Second, the ratings of those networks compared to the overall population is VERY, VERY, VERY tiny.

Combine the two and you'd see that most people, Democrats or otherwise, almost never see anything about him.

[Stuckinthebush]

36. Wishful thinking

You can say I told you so if I'm wrong and I'll be humbled. I predict his ceiling is 30.

[Dawgs]

38. Not wishful thinking, but you may be right.

His ceiling might be 30. Plenty of time to tell.

[Cal33]

47. He'd be wasted as VP. He and Elizabeth together can do far more good in the Senate.

[mcar]

19. K&R

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

29. I don't vote based on polls.

[lunamagica]

43. K&R.

[Comrade Grumpy]

48. Clinton is the presumptive nominee. I have little enthusiasm for her.

[Sheepshank]

49. goes without saying...but I appreciate the kick n/t

[6chars]

53. Don't stop thinking

'bout tomorrow! (eh, I still like this old song)