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NiceTryGuy

(53 posts)
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 12:41 AM Aug 2015

It’s time to draft Al Gore

It’s time to draft Al Gore: If Democrats want to win, it’s clear neither Hillary nor Sanders is the way

Hillary's flailing. Biden's grieving. Bernie's a longshot. Gore bridges the party's establishment, progressives

The presidential election is still sixteen months away, but this much is clear: Hillary Clinton is a vulnerable candidate.

Since announcing her candidacy in April, Clinton’s stature has steadily slipped. Things got even worse this week. We learned, first, that Bernie Sanders eclipsed Clinton in small, individual donations, which is an indicator of popular support among likely voters.

Second, and more problematic, the newest AP poll revealed significant weaknesses among Democrats on a host of issues, including trust, character, and compassion for average Americans.

These numbers are alarming heading into the general election, especially for Democrats. Bernie Sanders is running an important campaign, but it’s very difficult to see the entire party rallying around him.

http://www.salon.com/2015/07/17/its_time_to_draft_al_gore_if_democrats_want_to_win_its_clear_neither_hillary_nor_sanders_is_the_way/
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It’s time to draft Al Gore (Original Post) NiceTryGuy Aug 2015 OP
I seriously doubt Al Gore is interested SheilaT Aug 2015 #1
If Biden jumps in, as I expect he will, I doubt we'll see Gore run. I wouldn't, however, be opposed to his running. InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2015 #2
It's an interesting notion. David__77 Aug 2015 #3
no mention of O'Malley ? clickbait type of article ? JI7 Aug 2015 #4
Nice try, but no deal guy. bbgrunt Aug 2015 #5
Gore's time has long gone ibegurpard Aug 2015 #6
You made me smile. Fawke Em Aug 2015 #7
Bernie Sanders can win and so long as he is viable, Al Gore won't run. Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #8
Bernie has no chance of winning... NiceTryGuy Aug 2015 #22
its hillary who can't win restorefreedom Aug 2015 #23
I agree, that's the point... NiceTryGuy Aug 2015 #29
as much as i like al gore restorefreedom Aug 2015 #30
Bernie can and will win magicmama Aug 2015 #26
Why the cavalcade of Third-Way Neoliberals as plan C? MannyGoldstein Aug 2015 #9
I'd wonder what Third Way Manny would say at this point about Al Gore... magicmama Aug 2015 #27
Yay, another white male savior. nt daredtowork Aug 2015 #10
You really have to bring race and gender into this? NobodyHere Aug 2015 #11
Why not? nt daredtowork Aug 2015 #12
Wouldn't it be nice if we could just judge people for who they are and what they stand for Live and Learn Aug 2015 #13
Wouldn't it be nice if we got more choice in Primary candidates? nt daredtowork Aug 2015 #14
interesting. cali Aug 2015 #16
I have stated on NUMEROUS occasions daredtowork Aug 2015 #21
I love Al Gore, he was a great VP to Bill Clinton, but ericson00 Aug 2015 #15
No thank you. NCTraveler Aug 2015 #17
I remember when this topic was instant 'rec rec rec!!' wyldwolf Aug 2015 #18
yes... a decade ago. ibegurpard Aug 2015 #24
Gore had his chance and failed to claim his victory Mnpaul Aug 2015 #19
or nah. frylock Aug 2015 #20
I'll pass on Al Gore. magicmama Aug 2015 #25
Nice Try, Guy. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #28
 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
1. I seriously doubt Al Gore is interested
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 12:47 AM
Aug 2015

in running. Why put any effort into trying to persuade a non-interested candidate?

Let's stick with the candidates we have.

 

NiceTryGuy

(53 posts)
22. Bernie has no chance of winning...
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 02:12 PM
Aug 2015

...I like Bernie, but I also know enough about the electoral college to know he doesn't have a path to winning. I've tried the electoral math several times for him (270towin.com) and have yet to come up with anything that isn't absolutely fantastical to get Bernie over the hump. He's dead in the water.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
23. its hillary who can't win
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 02:28 PM
Aug 2015

she has so much baggage she has almost no chance in a ge. the rpubs will come out in throngs to vote against her.

with his momentum, bernie is the real shot at keeping the wh.

gore was fine, but his time has passed imo. but he would be a breath of fresh air running the epa in a sanders administration.

 

NiceTryGuy

(53 posts)
29. I agree, that's the point...
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 10:13 PM
Aug 2015

I agree Hillary can't win. That's the point of this thread. We need a candidate who can win Ohio and Florida. Bernie doesn't have a prayer of winning either. Hillary appears to be virtually sunk.

We need a candidate, and I don't believe Biden is it.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
30. as much as i like al gore
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 10:32 PM
Aug 2015

i think he is part of yesterday, like hillary, i think bernie has a shot more than many think. i also would not write off omalley. he has a great message, if he can get some visibility.

 

magicmama

(50 posts)
26. Bernie can and will win
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 02:42 PM
Aug 2015

Bernie has a *very* narrow path to the election, but he did break one of the key barriers yesterday - leading Clinton 44-37 in NH on a well-respected state poll.

More forthcoming *STATE* polls will also tighten up or give Bernie the lead. Bernie is very close in Iowa, and also very close in my state which happens to be a swing state.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
13. Wouldn't it be nice if we could just judge people for who they are and what they stand for
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 03:35 AM
Aug 2015

and not what race or gender they are?

daredtowork

(3,732 posts)
21. I have stated on NUMEROUS occasions
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 01:57 PM
Aug 2015

that I desperately wanted to vote for the first female President this election cycle, but I can't vote for Hillary because of her failure to address "reform of welfare as we know it", mass incarceration, TPP, Third Way/Wall Street politics, "working white people" dog whistles, and even "All People Matter" at a black funeral. She's doing everything she can to make herself impossible to vote for if she wins the Democratic nomination. I sincerely hope she doesn't.

Bernie is voicing pretty much my ideal platform, but I still wish I could vote for a woman. Before he announced his candidacy, I wrote to him and asked if he would consider encouraging Barbara Lee to run and running as her VP. Looks like that didn't happen.

I've been very open about my "interesting" opinion on that on DU.

I support Bernie because I don't have a woman who is stating Bernie's platform that I can throw my vote to. That's the situation. But I still wish I could vote for the first female President in my time. Hillary is going to coast a bit off that sentiment from a lot of other women though her platform is against their interests.

 

ericson00

(2,707 posts)
15. I love Al Gore, he was a great VP to Bill Clinton, but
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 03:50 AM
Aug 2015

he's been out of politics too long, and its not like he was a savvy campaigner in 1988 primaries or 2000 GE. He should've have thought he was gonna win a state controlled by his opponent's family. He's also not going to go against the Clintons, who made him into a national figure. Before the Clintons put him on the ticket, he was another Washington stiff and scion.

Also, seeing how a lot of people on the far-left have a problem with the Clinton Foundation, I bet Gore's connections with both Apple AND Google's boards would hurt him with the same people. And in the GE, selling his network to Al Jazeera, which IMO is much worse than FOX, would be problematic.

Mnpaul

(3,655 posts)
19. Gore had his chance and failed to claim his victory
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 10:12 AM
Aug 2015

I don't any chance of getting another. He would also be another "more of the same" candidate. No thanks.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
28. Nice Try, Guy.
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 02:52 PM
Aug 2015

But the only reason to want Gore in the race is to try and draw off more Bernie voters and clear the way for Clinton.

Second, and more problematic, the newest AP poll revealed significant weaknesses among Democrats on a host of issues, including trust, character, and compassion for average Americans.


And that's not 'among Democrats'. That's Clinton.

Americans trust Bernie, and can see his character and compassion.
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