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rusty fender

(3,428 posts)
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 02:43 PM Aug 2015

Why isn't Hillary holding public rallies?

Addressing big, enthusiastic crowds would show her popularity and lay waste to the rumors of the silly notion of her "impending demise."

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Why isn't Hillary holding public rallies? (Original Post) rusty fender Aug 2015 OP
Got to run it past the focus groups Kelvin Mace Aug 2015 #1
Because there is no election for months and she doesn't need name recognition jberryhill Aug 2015 #2
Probably doesn't think she needs to at this point. DanTex Aug 2015 #3
Because unscripted public contact is all potential downside. Just ask her handlers. n/t leveymg Aug 2015 #4
Why indeed? RufusTFirefly Aug 2015 #5
She has to win the Primary before getting to the GE rusty fender Aug 2015 #6
She is polling consistently at or above 50 Cosmocat Aug 2015 #19
consider she has a large meet up and no one shows to the extent she needs? roguevalley Aug 2015 #23
Does she need to? GitRDun Aug 2015 #7
Perhaps there is a profound lack of "big, enthusiastic crowds"? Android3.14 Aug 2015 #8
Exactly, that's totally the audience she got when she was at Roosevelt Island. Blue_Adept Aug 2015 #18
That was 5,500 people compared to crowds 6 times the size for bernie Sanders Android3.14 Aug 2015 #20
You mean they were all hedge fund managers? Blue_Adept Aug 2015 #32
Yup. Not very excited Android3.14 Aug 2015 #34
I'd say you crack me up Blue_Adept Aug 2015 #36
Try this Android3.14 Aug 2015 #41
Maybe that $900,000 worth of polling told her it wasn't necessary n/t arcane1 Aug 2015 #9
Because she doesn't want to? Maedhros Aug 2015 #10
Anyone who calls her a secretive, socially inept, control freak is liable to get alerted by me! n/t RufusTFirefly Aug 2015 #11
She is most certainly NOT socially inept Android3.14 Aug 2015 #21
... RufusTFirefly Aug 2015 #22
I would respond in kind with the same level of snark and disingenuousness... DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #27
Because it would be embarrassing if she didn't come close to a Bernie-size crowd. Vinca Aug 2015 #12
I think that's it. Qutzupalotl Aug 2015 #13
Rahm could recommend a good rent-a-crowd company LINK: yurbud Aug 2015 #44
she prefers to let big media punish Sanders Doctor_J Aug 2015 #14
She's busy counting the take from the corporations. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2015 #15
That part is planned for the Fall, and has been since the campaign started in the Spring. brooklynite Aug 2015 #16
So much concern... Blue_Adept Aug 2015 #17
It's a legitimate question... rusty fender Aug 2015 #43
she does better in small settings JI7 Aug 2015 #24
So does Bernie Sanders Android3.14 Aug 2015 #28
because optics frylock Aug 2015 #25
is that her event? yurbud Aug 2015 #46
That was Romney at Ford Field frylock Aug 2015 #48
Maybe she did not know it was required. It is her campaign, she can run it as she sees fit. Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #26
she is more at ease amoungst power players than working people olddots Aug 2015 #29
Elitists don't need to do that. eom Cleita Aug 2015 #30
Hillary has chosen her advisers with much care. None of them oasis Aug 2015 #31
I would guess that she will. lovemydog Aug 2015 #33
Because she is not Bernie Sanders.... BooScout Aug 2015 #35
That's funny Ino Aug 2015 #38
Actually that's reality.... BooScout Aug 2015 #39
Oh, you were SERIOUS?! Ino Aug 2015 #40
She's ahead in the polls right now, so she's being careful gollygee Aug 2015 #37
It is difficut to pack an arena when you charge people $2,700 to hear you speak Bjorn Against Aug 2015 #42
maybe she's running first honest corporate campaign: she only talks to people who REALLY matter yurbud Aug 2015 #45
Because she's sounds flat when she has them. Fawke Em Aug 2015 #47
She's busy raising money to defeat Republicans in the general election Freddie Stubbs Aug 2015 #49
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
2. Because there is no election for months and she doesn't need name recognition
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 02:46 PM
Aug 2015

Likewise, the Clinton campaign has much of its ground game in place, and does not need to attract and motivate volunteers to the extent that other candidates do.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
3. Probably doesn't think she needs to at this point.
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 02:47 PM
Aug 2015

The objective is to win the GE, which is a long time a way. She's got a huge lead in the primary, and voters already know her. Raising money and meeting with smaller groups might be more effective than holding big rallies when the general is still over a year away.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
5. Why indeed?
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 02:53 PM
Aug 2015

Because D. W. Griffith, Cecil B. de Mille, William Wyler, and Richard Attenborough are all dead perhaps?

 

rusty fender

(3,428 posts)
6. She has to win the Primary before getting to the GE
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 02:55 PM
Aug 2015

Dismissing opposition in the Primary reminds me of college football teams that overlook the little college team they have to beat before the BIG game against Notre Dame.

Yes, everyone has heard of her, but large public displays of support will help her win the primary, in my humble opinion.

Cosmocat

(15,424 posts)
19. She is polling consistently at or above 50
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 04:09 PM
Aug 2015

double where Bernie is ...

She has a LOT more to lose by extending herself at this point than gain.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
23. consider she has a large meet up and no one shows to the extent she needs?
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 04:20 PM
Aug 2015

all downside unless she can draw zillions.

GitRDun

(1,846 posts)
7. Does she need to?
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 03:03 PM
Aug 2015

She has the poll numbers for the most part.

If she can get the TV time in low risk situations, why bother?

My guess is if her team thinks she needs to, she will. Where you are at from a poll perspective dictates strategy, IMO.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
8. Perhaps there is a profound lack of "big, enthusiastic crowds"?
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 03:06 PM
Aug 2015

I'd wager she can draw a large crowd, but it might appear more like a convention of sleepy hedge fund accountants.

HRC, with the lack of enthusiasm within the party, all the baggage, and the pretty obvious signals that she is a corporate candidate means she is the GOP's best chance of taking the White House by rallying their base of anti-Clinton yahoos, lackluster GOTV efforts and the usual bag of dirty tricks.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
20. That was 5,500 people compared to crowds 6 times the size for bernie Sanders
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 04:15 PM
Aug 2015

So yes, that is totally the audience she got when she was at Roosevelt Island.

Blue_Adept

(6,499 posts)
32. You mean they were all hedge fund managers?
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 07:36 AM
Aug 2015

Because that's what was being said. NOT THE SIZE of the crowd.

To reference, you said, "I'd wager she can draw a large crowd, but it might appear more like a convention of sleepy hedge fund accountants."

So we talked about the crowd. Not the size.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
10. Because she doesn't want to?
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 03:15 PM
Aug 2015

She has nothing to gain - she's counting on buying the election with her war chest.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
11. Anyone who calls her a secretive, socially inept, control freak is liable to get alerted by me! n/t
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 03:34 PM
Aug 2015

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
27. I would respond in kind with the same level of snark and disingenuousness...
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 05:43 PM
Aug 2015
Anyone who calls her a secretive, socially inept, control freak is liable to get alerted by me
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Rufus, I would respond in kind with the same level of snark, condescension, contempt, and disingenuousness but I don't want to suffer the same fate of my friends on this board who have had posts hidden and received time outs for much less...

Vinca

(53,994 posts)
12. Because it would be embarrassing if she didn't come close to a Bernie-size crowd.
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 03:34 PM
Aug 2015

And I don't think she would.

Qutzupalotl

(15,824 posts)
13. I think that's it.
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 03:39 PM
Aug 2015

There would be comparisons, number to number, and they probably wouldn't be in Cinton's favor.

She is pretty good on the stump, but there is far more enthusiasm on the Sanders side.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
44. Rahm could recommend a good rent-a-crowd company LINK:
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 07:29 PM
Aug 2015
State Representative Esther Golar said she was at the meeting about Reed School in Englewood, which is set to receive Guggenheim students, and saw people arrive on a bus. She said she talked to them and discovered they were from a halfway house and were paid $25 to come to the meeting.


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/01/14/1054604/-Rahm-Caught-Red-Handed-By-State-Officials?via=siderec
 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
14. she prefers to let big media punish Sanders
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 03:55 PM
Aug 2015

Spontaneous speeches are not really her strong suit. Especially unscripted questions.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
16. That part is planned for the Fall, and has been since the campaign started in the Spring.
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 03:59 PM
Aug 2015

Too many people worry about minor things...

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
28. So does Bernie Sanders
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 11:30 PM
Aug 2015

He's great with small settings, large settings, anywhere he can haul out his conviction and good natured common sense.

oasis

(53,694 posts)
31. Hillary has chosen her advisers with much care. None of them
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 12:38 AM
Aug 2015

are willing to steer her campaign towards any idea floated by the DU Think Tank. Not just yet anyway.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
33. I would guess that she will.
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 07:47 AM
Aug 2015

And without reading the rest of this thread, I'll also guess that others will wildly speculate.

BooScout

(10,410 posts)
35. Because she is not Bernie Sanders....
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 09:01 AM
Aug 2015

...and right now she is focusing on the issues and raising money not just for her own upcoming campaign in the GE, but for Democrats across the country who will also be running for various offices. See Hillary is a Democrat not just in name only to use the system like Sanders is....she is using her name and status as the FRONT RUNNER to raise funds for a lot of Dems and a lot of races nationwide. How much has Sanders raised for other Democrats?

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
37. She's ahead in the polls right now, so she's being careful
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 09:24 AM
Aug 2015

She doesn't want to take a chance with any unknowns. (Such as a BLM protest, but there are other potential unknowns too.) It's a conservative way to campaign, but so long as she stays in the front, it might work. If Sanders keeps catching up, maybe she'll start planning some big rallies. She might be banking on having more TV news coverage too.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
45. maybe she's running first honest corporate campaign: she only talks to people who REALLY matter
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 07:30 PM
Aug 2015
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