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[SamKnause]

1. ?

[GitRDun]

27. I'm with you, huh? eom

[Bryce Butler]

47. See this thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251524437 (#4)

[bbgrunt]

54. they have learned the art of projection from republicans well. nt

[840high]

66. Wasted time reading that.

[Bryce Butler]

83. Yes, it is a waste of time.

The sad thing is... all the Recs it received.

[riversedge]

2. If it is those things-then do not repeat it.

[sufrommich]

3. Which "front groups"? nt

[azurnoir]

4. yep it is

[Smarmie Doofus]

5. K and R. But...... relax.

It's basically a super-minority of rigid, insistent, obsessive , mega-politically correct space-cases.

They've never understood how to communicate w. people --- let alone *persuade* them, have zero political accomplishments to show for it , and have to take their frustration out on someone.

It reminds me of seeing Angela Davis at the Left Forum in NYC a couple of years ago. Astonishing. Frozen in time. She hasn't grown a single neuron since 1971.

These people are a lot like Angela.

Be embarrassed for DU, but don't take it... or them... so *seriously.*

[mmonk]

6. My divorce papers are ready. I may end up with a trigger finger.

We have open primaries in my state so labels don't matter so much. But this election has the chance of a deeper split in the Democratic Party. Soon they may be able to test their rhetoric regarding progressives or the "too liberals" about having no where else to go.

[marlakay]

8. I would agree but I thought that in 2008

I thought the Hillary people then would never come around to Obama after what happened with Bill saying stuff.

I am for Bernie but don't post often because of how bad it has got, I remember it was bad then too.

I think its worse here now because the internet as a whole has year after year got more disrespectful and rude.

[arcane1]

31. With the republicans turning more into unelectable lunatics, Big Money needs somewhere safe to go.

Sadly, the Dems always seem to have a warm seat waiting.

[tea and oranges]

56. Astute Observation!

Noticed just today that the top polling R's are Trump, Carson, Fiorina, none of whom happen to be pols. Even the R's are sick of their politicians.

[hifiguy]

95. Bingo.

And the Clintons very obligingly began selling the party piecemeal to the plutocracy back in the 1990s, with their bosom buddies at the DLC.

[reddread]

122. they need a winner and Hillary is in quicksand

things are going to be crazier this election than EVER.
the people HAVE to step up this time and assert their interests.
stop the fleecing and slaughter.

[reddread]

121. seperate bathrooms for "liberal extremists"

the real ugly at work here could put us back 70 years.
If it had any basis in reality.
desperate, overpaid and completely incompetent strategies.
Bill Clinton will bury his own legacy completely during this campaign.

[PatrickforO]

7. I know what you mean - I think the vulgar term is 'rat fucking.' The unfortunate term...

"Ratfucking" was a term used by Richard Nixon's campaign insiders to describe electoral fraud and dirty tricks they used against their opponents. The term was coined by political operative Don Segretti, who claimed it had come from his college days when he stuffed ballot boxes for student government candidates. Segretti was hired by the Committee to Re-elect the President (CREEP) to work his ratfucking magic for Nixon in the 1972 elections and funded by laundered money coming in through CREEP slush funds. Segretti and a number of other ratfuckers worked from CREEP to destroy the campaigns of Democratic opponents. Their methods included distributing faked letter and press releases, astroturfing "activists" and "protestors," disrupting political conferences using the old "order a hundred pizzas in someone else's name" trick, vote contracting (literally paying people for votes), espionage tactics, and general dickery. One of the ratfuckers happened to be Karl Rove, who was the head of the College Republicans at the time (they teach 'em early).

The most infamous incident related to the ratfucking techniques, besides the Watergate break-in itself, was the release of the "Muskie letters." CREEP members had gotten hold of Senator Edmund Muskie's letterhead and started "leaking" letters ostensibly addressed to other Democrats insulting various other Congressmen. One of the Muskie letters, called the "Canuck letter," implied that Muskie was bigoted toward Americans of French-Canadian descent (Muskie was from Maine). This FUD campaign reached its heights right in the middle of the 1972 primaries and Muskie's campaign imploded after his speech denying his authorship of the letters. The Muskie letters were ultimately the starting point that led Washington Post reporters Carl Bernstein and Bob Woodward to begin to unravel the Nixon campaign's ratfucking methods and uncover the Watergate break-in.

Source: Rational Wiki

[hifiguy]

96. RFing is also Caltech slang

for elaborate pranks. Thirty years ago some Caltechers took over the scoreboard at the Rose Bowl, changing the school names to Caltech and MIT and the mascots to beavers on the video board, beavers being the mascots for both schools.

(I didn't go to Caltech but read it in a history of college pranks.)

[BainsBane]

9. Yeah.

They can't all drive Volvos.


The Dean pollster discussed in the Christian Science Monitor piece didn't make any charges of racism. He observed that Sanders support base is overwhelmingly white, which you had to have already known from going to rallies or seeing pictures of them.

[nadinbrzezinski]

28. You mean like my local rally that was very ahem, mixed

Yup, have you gone to a rally? I doubt it.

Oh by the way, I don't support anyone, but the news vehicle is a Jeep Wrangler, the other vehicle is a Honda Civic Hybrid, and it is over 10 years old.

[Doctor_J]

10. a LOT of foxspeak among the hillarians

[BainsBane]

11. The Christian Science Monitor is unacceptable now

while Ann Coulter is an impeachable source. Who exactly is engaging in Fox speak?

[sufrommich]

15. The Ann Coulter thread has over 190 recs.

The enemy of my enemy indeed.

[Number23]

22. This place is a mess.

People high fiving Ann Coulter when they're not sliming #BLM in every single possible conceivable way and no one is supposed to notice this?? Pretending that people want Bernie to apologize for being white and male? I haven't seen a Freeper yet that didn't make that same argument about their side, but when it's posted here on DU it's "principled protest" and that's okay?

Sliming and slamming Corey Booker FOR YEARS but the second he says something vaguely nice about Sanders, he's a helluva guy and no one is supposed to notice this? Being more butthurt about people stating the obvious -- that the VAST MAJORITY of Sanders support is from white people -- and calling that "racism" when it's nothing but an acknowledgement of reality?

The same crowd that hated Obama with all their might and called him a corpo-fascist right winger piece of shit Trojan horse are now screaming with glee that the members of the Obama coalition that are donating right now are giving alot of that money to Sanders??? I strongly suspect that the Obama coalition will not donate much to either candidate and that Hillary will get much of her money elsewhere.

The same folks who said that "Bernie had nothing to apologize for" are now using his tweet to set up a meeting with #BLM and the same apology that he said was done without his knowledge or consent as proof of his commitment to #BLM??

Bernie is all over the place right now. But even at his worst he will never be as inconsistent as his supporters. I don't know what to make of these people right now.

[seabeyond]

60. a mess. it is all a mess. in hypocrisy and contradiction. i had to get confirmation i was seeing

correctly seeing

“I apologize it took our campaign so long to officially reach out,” Sanders’s African-American outreach director, Marcus Ferrell, said in an email to a group of activists obtained by Buzzfeed Saturday.

used in order to cheer sanders reaching out thru tweeter while just yesterday in a thread about sanders throwing him under the bus and the insistence no apology should be used.

one misstep after another.

[Number23]

61. It's unreal. Just yesterday people were applauding him saying he had "nothing to apologize for"

it hasn't even been 24 damn hours and the same crowd applauding his non-apology is now applauding his decision to USE said non-apology in order to reach out to #BLM.

one misstep after another.

And the real show HASN'T EVEN STARTED YET. He better shake out all of these bugs before things get going properly.

[MannyGoldstein]

65. Can you provide even a single example of a DUer

"high fiving Ann Coulter"?

I doubt it, but perhaps I'll be surprised.

[Number23]

69. You mean besides the post in this very forum that talks about how "right" she is that the GOP

doesn't want to go up against Bernie even though that's not even what that stupid woman said?

Why do I get the feeling that you have not only seen this post, you've probably posted in it, agreed with and more than likely even rec'd it?? Edit: Well, I'll be! You didn't rec that thread. I'm sure you'll want to rectify that asap.

[MannyGoldstein]

70. Is saying a person is right about something

the same as celebrating that person?

If I agree with Hermann Goering on the following, am I high-fiving him?

"Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger."

Of course not.

[Number23]

71. Ann Coulter never said what that OP said that she said. She said "let up on Hillary" and that OP

took that and practically broke their ankle pivoting "let up on Hillary" to "they don't want to go against Bernie."

And I'm not sure why you decided to quote a Nazi to me. New tactics?

[MannyGoldstein]

73. Even if that were true (I haven't read that OP), it's a misinterpretation, not a high five. nt

[Number23]

74. Tell that to the 190 souls that rec'd it.

[MannyGoldstein]

75. It could be 1000

Doesn't matter.

[Number23]

100. I don't know why you're telling me this. I'm not the one who supported that OP

and never would.

[MannyGoldstein]

24. Nobody said the CSM was unacceptable, did they?

I think you're misunderstanding something.

[artislife]

38. Sssh...still a lot more whining to be done....nt

[uponit7771]

16. A lot of whining among the non Hillarians non Omallerians non Webbians

[artislife]

40. Yes, only.

[NuclearDem]

17. "has Bernie apologized yet for being white and male?"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=522269

100 recs.

[artislife]

42. Thanks for bring it over

I was without the internet ..only had 4 g and that is just too hard to scroll and read through everything

[hifiguy]

97. Dumptruck loads of it.

Mostly manure.

[Doctor_J]

12. have you noticed that neither Hillary nor any of her fans have disavowed the

"Liberals are white supremacists" meme? Race baiting, or racist? Is there a difference?

[George II]

20. Nothing to disavow - that was NEVER said! The original comment by the BLM woman in Seattle...

...has been misattributed, and you've gone one step further by CHANGING what she said for your purposes.

If that's what she said, can you provide a new source that contains THAT statement?

[sabrina 1]

89. How about the Red Baiting from her supporters, McCaskill, Gutierrez eg? Bernie has so much class

and will not and never has run a negative ad or personally attacked, or allowed his representatives to red bait or race bait his opponents. And he keeps winning demonstrating how much people are sick of these kinds of politics.

He has defended Hillary Clinton from the attacks by AAs after her use of the phrase 'all lives matter'. He refused he said, 'to go along with attacks on her for using that phrase'. Has SHE done that? Actually no, her supporters continue to try to use those vile tactics, 'white supremicist'? A Jewish Senator whose own family were murdered by Hitler?

If this keeps up, these vicious tactics, even if Hillary were to win the primary, people will not forget them.

So in her own best interests she needs to reign in her supporters.

[ljm2002]

123. So did all the reports get it wrong?

http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/black-lives-matter-protesters-shut-down-bernie-sanders-rally/

Marissa Johnson, one of the protesters, shot back, “I was going to tell Bernie how racist this city is, filled with its progressives, but you did it for me,” accusing the audience of “white supremacist liberalism.

http://www.thestranger.com/blogs/slog/2015/08/08/22668466/black-lives-matter-activists-interrupt-bernie-sanders-at-social-security-rally

Johnson spoke through the heckling, welcoming Bernie to the town of Seattle, where "white supremacist liberalism" prevails.

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Bernie-Sanders-unable-to-address-crowd-after-Black-Lives-Matter-activist-interrupt-Seattle-Westlake-rally-321146281.html

When the crowd asked the activists to allow Sanders to speak, one activist called the crowd "white supremacist liberals,"

I don't even disagree with Marissa Johnson on her points about Seattle -- clearly there are real issues there, including racism in the police department and in the education system where black students are routinely given harsher punishments than their white counterparts. But let's not pretend she did not come right out and call a bunch of liberals white supremacists. She did.

[uponit7771]

13. You forgot the "... and not representative of what any GROUP is saying..."

[Left coast liberal]

14. I have no idea what that means...

[Beartracks]

23. I'm still confused: why protest to "useless" people in order to make them...

... use their bully pulpit to help you? I mean: are white progressives useful, or are they not? Make up your minds.

Anyhow, I'm of the opinion that the 15-minute-famer wannabes who trolled Bernie's mic in Seattle aren't necessarily representative of BLM supporters as a whole, who I presume (assume?) to be thoughtful, serious people. But then, I'm not really following them too closely after the Seattle faux pas, or the discussions here at DU. Every Hillary and Bernie thread degenerating into race-baiting and hurt feelings is simply too arduous and non-productive.

Is it still correct that BLM is not a group with a hierarchy or defined leadership? That makes them SO easy to co-opt and SO easy for, well, ANYONE to act in their name.

=====================

[in_cog_ni_to]

35. I don't know why they chose to spew their hate

at a Social Security/Medicare/Medicaid rally where Bernie was speaking. And choosing to call him and his Progressive supporters "Useless, White Supremacist Liberals" was just them being rude, disgusting and hateful. From what I understand, the Seattle BLM Chapter is BLM. No one in BLM denounced their hateful words.

My response to this OP was mostly because another OP decided to call Bernie supporters "White Privileged Supremacists" again today. More if the same racist Third Way crap. They are the group fueling the racist meme, not Bernie or his supporters.

I don't know the make-up, hierarchy, organization of BLM and at this point, I couldn't give a Lily White rats ass what it is.

BowDownBernie

Have a nice evening.

[Cali_Democrat]

29. Did you really just write this:

If the AA community doesn't need or want the help of the Progressive community, so be it. Good luck with your RWers! I hope Bernie stops trying to jump through hoops for them because nothing he does will ever satisfy them.

You represent Sanders supporters so well!

[sufrommich]

33. Yep. nt

[in_cog_ni_to]

36. And you think I care what you think?

I don't.

[Number23]

39. This whole forum does nothing but prove the point of the #bernisoblack and the Van Jones, Hartmann

Occupy, and too many others to count criticism of the man's supporters.

While they scream "ThaT's RACist!!1one" at people who do nothing but note that Bernie's support is overwhelmingly white (true) but become quiet as mice when their fellow supporters say things like "I hope Bernie stops trying to jump through hoops for them (black people) because nothing he does will ever satisfy them."

Curioser and curioser.

[Starry Messenger]

46. "After all we've done for you people..."

Pretty sad specimens in here.

[in_cog_ni_to]

53. There ya go again. Spewing more LIES.

And you have the nerve to put quotations around it. No one in this thread said that. YOU DID

[Starry Messenger]

55. Awww.

Breathe deeply 10 times. In. Hold. Out. It works wonders.

[artislife]

43. The kicker is that most of them are white.

This Latina finds it ......let's say "amusing" but we can wink at that word.

[ibegurpard]

64. Oh you noticed that too?

[stranger81]

76. Most of that is a bunch of self-congratulatory ego massaging, IMHO.

YMMV, of course.

[artislife]

104. Yup nt

[Number23]

101. Most of DU is white. Most of America is white.

What's your point, exactly?

[haikugal]

48. Thank you! Farrakhan is vile. nt

[Duppers]

62. Well said.

You should post more.

I'm wondering IF Bernie gets the nomination, will these people support him? ( I'd like to add another sentence here but it'd probably get this post hidden, given the current juries.)

[SMC22307]

72. I'd almost feel schadenfreude at a Hillary win...

status quo, nothing will improve for POC. But that's just for the Seattle #BLM and online loudmouths who think it's cute to hurl epithets like "white supremacist liberals." The stakes are too high, though, so I won't.

I'm enjoying the relative quiet and reduced divisiveness thanks to the two on time-outs. There may be a third... MaggieD is flagged for review.

[Matariki]

77. Ugh. What an embarrassingly ugly post.

you really should delete it.

[leftofcool]

80. Gee, I guess PoC know where they stand with Bernie supporters.

[sibelian]

82. Yeah, wherever you tell them to, I guess.

:/

[heaven05]

93. you've said NOTHING

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of consequence or substance except continue the BS whining when it comes to having to deal with AA that will get in an alleged progressives' face and tell them, they we will not be quiet, we will not wait our turn, been waiting for 250 years, nothings happened, we will not listen to your advice as to when, to whom we may and how we speak to issues that affect us, fatally, everyday.......This lily white liberal, progressive whining from BS supporters is getting ludicrous.

The whining against AA actions to protect ourselves from a society that is racist, systemically and institutionally, and lethally violent as a culture toward POC, and then to have to raise hell to try to get attention AND ACTION to the murders and summary executions, of unarmed men, women and children, from our so called "allies" is getting to a point that it is known, "business as usual" and the status quo of the privileged will be maintained.

I laugh derisively at your whining, and understand this, Bernie and Hillary will need us(our vote) before we need someone like you as an "ally". So take your "Lily white ass", your quote, and the rest you said and drive on down the road. See Ya, won't miss ya! Don't need ya!

[sibelian]

108. "AA actions to protect ourselves" - bullshit.

Nobody is protected from anything by interrupting Bernie Sanders in the middle of a speech.

[heaven05]

109. you've STILL said nothing of consequence, import or substance

but then I didn't expect you to be able to.......bye, don't need ya as an ally......

[sibelian]

110. You're at liberty to propose any value to my words that you wish, of course.

As for allegiance, I don't believe you seek it.

[heaven05]

111. thank you for permission

, as far as allegiance? Not yours, you're 100% correct or anyone like you. I wouldn't want you in my foxhole, looking out for my back. Hell no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[sibelian]

112. You're welcome.

And... you're not in much of a position to complain about not having any allies if you're openly stating disinterest in their support.

[heaven05]

113. right

with "support" such as yours, well I said it in my first response to your............not complaining of having no allies, I have plenty, just assuring YOU, I don't need or desire "allies" like you. EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[sibelian]

114. ... then the only option open to me...

is to accept your disinterest and take your position at face value, which appears to consist of your releasing me of any responsibility towards you.

Just you, to be clear.

I'm not sure what else you think might happen?

[heaven05]

115. NO GREAT LOSS, I am sure

please understand I am only speaking to "allies" such as YOU. That's just YOU, to be clear. I'm not sure myself how you would expect anyone to want YOU as an ally, your presumption is galling and is beyond me. You were never responsible toward me, with your original response as you wrote it, so I repeat, bye and bye and bye again.

[sibelian]

116. Well, you've already decided I'm NOT one, so what do you expect me to do about it?

Feel guilty?

It's up to you.

[bettyellen]

119. REPULSIVE OP.

[MannyGoldstein]

19. #bowdownbernie, #berniesoblack

What could be more appropriate for a person who's been consistently outspoken in furthering civil rights for decades?

[restorefreedom]

57. the bowdown shit was vile

i hope it was confined to the seattle disruptors and a few of their supporters.

[merrily]

85. What could be more anti-equal human rights for all humans?

Is it supposedly OK because a Jew whose family members died in the Holocaust is white?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_the_United_States

[CharlotteVale]

21. Gives me Spiro Agnew flashbacks.

[jtuck004]

25. So is knowing you could be murdered solely for the color of your skin, no matter what you do.

Most people come at this from a very different place, and it may be impossible for them ever to converge. Not good or bad places, but very different.

But the .01% are fucking all of us, and the planet is burning up while we use electricity for shit like this. Those protesters aren't our enemy no more than an angry child in the line at Wal Mart. They will learn and grow, and concentrate more on solving the problem than making themselves the center of attention. We have seen it before, so one can have reasonable hope.

So for those of us on this side, unless one is in this for their ego, they should concentrate their effort on the enemy, not the choir.

[artislife]

44. This is true

But when you can score political points, it seems anything goes...

[blackspade]

26. Please self delete.

This comes off as yet another "boohoo" post about how oppressed White liberals are.
We are not an oppressed minority.
BLM and other "front groups" are pulling up a seat at the table.
So make room.

[KMOD]

63. +1

[merrily]

86. One need not be oppressed to call out things like that.

If you believe white liberals are racist, why the hell are you a Democrat? Liberals of all hues standing for equal rights and even dying for them, was a major reason I wanted to be a Democrat.

[sibelian]

88. It's got nothing to do with "oppression"

It's a reminder that one generally prefers to be interrogated on what one actually believes.

[sabrina 1]

30. They're getting desperate, just leave them be. This is EXACTLY why Bernie, who is so far above that

despicable Right Wing nasty, negative, NON ISSUES oriented campaign garbage, is soaring ahead and is going to WIN this election.

And I have to say, WITH THEIR HELP. I post their stuff to my social media accounts with the comment: THIS is all they've got! And it disgusts people.

So leave them to their negative campaigning, they obviously can't talk about issues, while Bernie does what the people want, he sticks to the ISSUES.

[restorefreedom]

58. a freakin men, sabrina.

[MisterP]

94. there's definitely a real "rise above" tendency: they say X, he DOES Y instead

and since his stuff's all on YouTube the opponents always end up in the position of "just because he's consistently supported Y for decades doesn't mean he supports Y; N supports Y because she's an M even though she opposed Y for decades until it polled above 52%"

the claim of his backers being latte-drinking Portlandia types is restricted to the internet: everyone just stops and stares when one of them opens their mouth in meatspace after it's been stewing on Tumblr echo chambers from academese derived from a quarter or two of college courses

[hifiguy]

98. As usual, you hit the nail squarely on the head, sabrina.

[sabrina 1]

32. Btw, when I first saw those particular words re Liberals 'volvo driving white elitists' etc, it was

from Rush Limbaugh Ditto Heads.

You know there is desperation when they have to go to Limbaugh for talking points against Democratic Candidates and their supporters.

[KoKo]

34. .....!

I think it was a sock puppet. Joined in 2001......

[sabrina 1]

37. I should have added, when I used to post, back in 2001-3 on forums that were dominated by right

wingers, these are the same words they used to describe Democrats. Shame to see this forum sink to that level.

[brentspeak]

41. It's all the concoction of Hillary-sponsored PR firms

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And possibly some GOP-employed operatives, as well.

[seveneyes]

45. The anti-Bernie folks will never learn ...

[leftofcool]

79. LOL!

Actually, we have learned more about him than we want to.

[a2liberal]

51. The best part is

they go on to say WE'RE the nasty ones. The hypocrisy would be hilarious if it weren't so sad

[840high]

68. yep

[leftofcool]

81. You really ought to read post #18

[Skittles]

52. yup

they detest stereotyping, then do it themselves

[Roy Ellefson]

59. yep

the same crowd who shouted "Party Unity My Ass" when their candidate lost in 2008.

[NutmegYankee]

78. It's Nixon style ratfucking. Nothing more to it.

When someone says it or implies it, the only response required is DERP.

[merrily]

84. "Limousine liberals" are supposedly the majority of Bernie's supporters now? LMAO.

[hifiguy]

99. Who ARE all those millenials I see in pics of ANY Sanders rally?

I am confused.

[Turin_C3PO]

105. It's funny

because, if I have to use the term, I would call many of Hillary's supporters "limousine liberals". Many appear to support social justice, which is awesome, but are happy with the current corporate pirate economic "system" that we have now. You gotta support both sides of the equation, both social justice AND economic justice.

[merrily]

106. Yep, it's funny. Hence, "LMAO."

Welcome to DU.

[Turin_C3PO]

117. Thank you.

I was agreeing with you, I just wanted to flesh out my own thoughts on the matter. I wasn't trying to lecture you or anything like that.

[merrily]

118. ? I was agreeing with you, too.

[sibelian]

87. Don't expect their cynicism to recede through your opposition to it. It's a feedback loop.

The cynicism is self-reinforcing, it needs to be denied by external agents to survive.

[Fred Friendlier]

91. The Southern Vermont GOP has been pushing the "racist Democrats" meme for several months

The idea is insane, as if a few Republicans voting for the Civil Rights Act in 1964 is going to fool anyone, but their base eats it up and in the general election it may play well all over the country.

So be prepared, our enemies are not stupid but they are unscrupulous and highly motivated.

[bobclark86]

92. As opposed to calling BLM "thugs?" n/t

[Bobbie Jo]

103. Among other things. nt

[hrmjustin]

102. Damn! I think someone is having a moment.

[romanic]

107. I've said it before and I'm going to say it again.

Some people here just want to be openly prejudiced against their white counterparts without any consequence.
[IMG][/IMG]

[reddread]

120. southern strategists

it is the worst part of what they pretend to, and authentically, represent.